this needs to change for the sake of fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
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this needs to change for the sake of fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
Again with the generalizations. A business-based decision affecting parts of your life that aren't business-related isn't the same thing as treating your whole marriage as one big business proposition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
What I'm seeing is that many people here approach women already convinced that they just want your money. A lot of them do, but if we equally apply the logic (?) being tossed around here to men, then there should be nothing to be angry about, right? Men are naturally promiscuous and women are gold diggers. Somewhere, I can see a forum of jaded women complaining about how marriage isn't worth it because all men cheat.
If you approach marriage - or any situation - with that defeatist attitude, you're going to get owned, plain and simple. If you're even CONSIDERING marrying someone, you should have a good idea already as to what her intentions are, and imo, if you wake up one day and exclaim "OH NOES, SHE TOOK ALL MY MONIES!" it's because you were a dumbass and didn't see it coming.
Yes, there is a financial aspect of marriage that must be attended to. It should not, however, be the whole focus of the marriage, because you're just asking for trouble. It's not about covering your ears, but it also isn't about holding a shareholders meeting before you give her the ring either.
Commitment? Love? A desire to share a life and grow together? Granted, you don't have to be married for that, but many people like the idea of formally dedicating themselves to one person. I see it like accepting a job and not signing a contract. Sure, you show up to work everyday, but your employer has no commitment to you at all, nor you to him. You could walk in one day and find yourself fired just as easily as you can quit on impulse. I like the idea of knowing that my wife is willing to go the distance to live and grow with me, but again, that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
See, that's the thing. If you're even considering social pressures when you consider marriage, you're already setting yourself up for failure. I learned a long time ago not to give a flying fuck about what people think, as at the end of the day it does me no good and contributes nothing. Marriages should work on love and understanding from the outset, and society should have no role in terms of expectations and image. The legal and financial aspects are going to be involved if you have kids or even if you're just living together for an extended period, so you can't avoid those, but social acceptance and image? Fuck that. It means nothing to me.Quote:
I mean, congrats to Melf for being happily married for an extended period of time, but I think he's in the minority now that the social pressure to stay married and work things out has largely dissolved, and marriages have to work on love and understanding alone.
I could go on for pages about what my mother-in-law and friends said I should do when:
- I got married
- I wanted kids
- I wanted to buy a house
- My wife wanted to finish college
etcetera, etcetera.... In the end, my wife and I do what we believe is best for us, and whoever doesn't like it can go sit on a tack.
I'm glad I'm broke and I look like a criminal so no evil harpy bitch will swoop down charm me into marriage and then steal my money and my man juice.There is no such thing as love you hippie faggot, its all about business and money shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
God damned hippie faggots.
They're ruining this country i tell you.
Yeah, I'm sure Robobo is a goldmine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
Hey, somebody had to.
I doubt it, because that gets them paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
This is exactly how 90% of the working world exists. If I suck at my job, I will no longer have one.Quote:
I see it like accepting a job and not signing a contract. Sure, you show up to work everyday, but your employer has no commitment to you at all, nor you to him. You could walk in one day and find yourself fired just as easily as you can quit on impulse.
You are the Grim Reaper of funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gas
Just to clarify as I'm not sure if I'm being lumped in with Drewbacca's comments as a result of Aaron's general disdain for anyone with capitalistic ambitions, but my general argument against marriage was based on losing out on the freedom of having sex with various women by commiting oneself to a fading beauty, not for financial protection. You can just get a Massey prenup for that.
I talk to enough wives who certainly put it out there that they'd love to fuck. I talk to enough girlfriends of the same ilk. Those women you guys love so much, you think you know so well, whose souls your own eyes have seen? All it takes for them is one slip and those great 4-5 years you guys are all harping on suddenly look don't look so hot in the rear view mirror. I am taking the wait-and-see approach, and should I get married, it will be sometime when I'm 35 or older, have a nice prenup, more leverage in the relationship, and a few concubines on the side.
I will say that financial struggles will end a marriage quicker than infidelity, however. And why is that now if the love is so strong? It was all good just a week ago.
Anything can go bad if you let it.
And your post may hint at the degree of separation between our philosophies. You say "anything can go bad" and I'd say "anything will go bad". But you've plowed through your share of pussy and seem headed towards your destination so I'll keep an open mind while still keeping one in the chamber.