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Originally Posted by
Gooch
I don't knock gold diggers. I respect them because they know what they want in a man. It doesn't mean I agree with them but that I understand them. Sex probably loses importance after a while, I'm sure, but it hasn't yet for me so I'm not going to try and adopt your perspective when I don't yet have to.
Statements like this are why I can't accept your argument. You're implying that I no longer have interest in sex because I'm married? That's just ignorant dude. I never implied that sex wasn't important, and I sure as heck never said that marriage kills interest in it. Maintaining a healthy sex life is basic to any relationship - married, living together, whatever. Being married has nothing to do with sex losing importance, as there are plenty of unmarried couples who have lost their sexual passion.
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Of course women get wiser with age. But they're already wiser earlier in the lives than men are, so it's already part of their leverage. They know the effect they can have on men. They're fully aware of how dire a situation it can be to be a single woman in her mid-to-late 30's. They realize the pressure family and peers place on them to get married and have kids. They understand their biological clock. Wisdom is more of an obvious asset for aging men because men are dumbassess for so much of their early lives that wisdom is almost a newly acquired virtue that comes only with age. There are exceptions obviously.
Enough of the stereotypes already. All women are scared to be single and in their '30s? All women are racing against the biological clock? You do realize that there are plenty of women out there who have no interest in getting married or having kids, right? I don't know who indoctrinated you so much against women, but you're making some sweeping generalizations here.
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Don't be so hard on yourself, but yes, I agree. But it's a good thing old men generally aren't measured on their looks. It tends to be wealth, status, family, accomplishments, legacy, etc.
Since you seem to know so much about how women think, I'm going to assume that you know that many older women have no interest in looks? That's right, they're all gold diggers who are only looking a man so they can take his money and sperm!
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I see too many people who think you have to get married if you're in love. What's wrong with living together? Having kids together? Do you really need the church and state to recognize your union to make your love and commitment feel official?
No you don't. That's what I said about it not being a big deal for someone to not want to get married. A wise person once said to me "you have your whole life to do two things: go to college and get married." There's no expiration date on either one and no obligation to do either. But since you did go down this route, you do realize that living together brings most of the same sexual and emotional baggage as being married, right? And that having kids brings the same legal and financial baggage, married or not?
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I'm sure you say that everyday. I'm happy for you. But I'd have to assume you're in the minority of guys who have been married for 10+years and are still happy. If you have only been married for a short period of time, well, then I'll have to discount your opinion a bit just based on my life's observations and get back to you when/if you hit that 10 mark.
I don't say it every day, because I don't need to constantly remind myself that I'm happy. Do you tell yourself every day that you love your job or parents? You shouldn't have to do that. If you love someone, you just do, and it's something that's just with you constantly. You shouldn't have to give yourself little post-its to remind yourself every day.
I've been married for 8 1/2 years and have two kids, and the thing I most cherish in this world is my family. If I'm in a minority, then I guess that would make me one lucky mofo. But considering that not everyone shares my definition of happiness, I'm happy with my life within my context of the term. I don't care what society thinks I should be doing with my life at 34, or how many kids I should have, etc. I decided to get married because I wanted to, plain and simple. Living together seems like the faux hawk of relationships in that you want the benefits without the obligations. Things don't work out? Cut and run. Granted, many people see that as a benefit, and I understand and respect that. My idea of commitment is just different, I guess.
Are you married or have you been in a long-term relationship? Considering the things you're saying, I'd hope you had the experience to back it up. I'm sure there are plenty of guys here who have and had things go sour, and perhaps that's why so many people are sour on marriage.
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Originally Posted by
Yoshi
I can't believe the amount of pussification in this thread. Do you watch the fucking View every day?
Says the man who CONSTANTLY bitches about his wife but doesn't leave her.
