To a horrible succubus whore of a woman, this Saturday. The party is literally all weekend. I am the best man. I feel terrible about all of this.
ANYWAY SHARE YOUR DAMN WEDDING STORIES!
Also: Poll.
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To a horrible succubus whore of a woman, this Saturday. The party is literally all weekend. I am the best man. I feel terrible about all of this.
ANYWAY SHARE YOUR DAMN WEDDING STORIES!
Also: Poll.
i was my cousins best man and didn't even meet his wife till that weekend. my speech was awesome.
If he says "I do," you have failed, just as my best man failed me.
We tried so hard. So hard. I told him I don't like her. I told him I don't think it's a good idea. I got him trashed and took him to the strip club, I bought him lap dances. I explained that she's intellectually bankrupt and has a horse face. I explained that she is governing his life and has prevented him from going out and doing lots of things he likes to do with us. I explained our friendship will never be the same. None of this shit had any effect. In the end I told him I'll respect his decision and stop badmouthing the bitch.
For the record, EVERYONE at the bach. party was against this wedding. This girl has no direction in life, and when she found out Daniel was Jewish (She was Christian) she latched on to that, took it to an extreme, and has decided to become a Rabbi. Now my friend needs to keep kosher (at home) and observe shabbat (at home), and keep a vegan diet. You can bet for his bachelor party all that shit went right out the window. Also, she whines. And she can't follow any of our conversations.
My poll didn't come out.
Basically: Tell me if you love weddings, hate them ( and tend to abuse the open bar and otherwise stay away from everyone), you like to party and you don't care what type, or if you are married.
And seriously, post your most interesting wedding stories.
Can I get a picture of Mrs. Yoshi? Because I would accept your hate towards your wife easier if she were a beast or evolved into a beast after the wedding.
Don't worry Cow, you will get him back after the divorce.
There was a deal on strippers that the bach. party guys almost got: Buy 1 get 1 free, one for the bach party, one for the divorce party.
So if everything you say is true, why is he marrying her? The only thing you didn't mention was her body, which I'm assuming is pretty amazing for him to put up with the horse face and everything else.
It's not that great. She gained weight before the wedding actually and the dress didn't fit, she's been dieting hardcore. She's not CLOSE to chubby at all, nothing like the girls I post in VB, but she gets a little pudge belly. Her face is also...not great. And her boobs are small.
Here's why: It's his first serious girlfriend ever, and he's lazy. He tends to take the easier path when he can. Mostly he doesn't realize yet that he can have better, and should.
BTW my friend is NOT a slacker or anything. He just got accepted to grad school at Columbia in an experimental Environmental Economics program that will teach him to legislate global businesses. He's always wanted to change the world, but didn't have faith in politics, so now he's doing something way more direct.
Probably desperate or stupid.
Short short answer: She fucks him.
edit: but not for long
She's probably just crazy in a way that he finds irresistible. Every Jewish guy I know has at one point or another fallen for a flat-out crazy girl. He's probably miserable now that she's converting.
She starts her masters program towards rabbinical school in a month or two. Frankly, from hanging out with them, I have no idea how she graduated college.
Did I mention she's seriously neurotic, especially about her weight?
Honestly?
You should Kidnap him.
I'm going to be too drunk to kidnap anyone. Maybe next week.
I can honestly relate to this. I have a friend who is dating a girl that I originally liked but changed after they started dating. I'd get more into it but he reads TNL and would probably throw a shitfit, causing even more alienation between us.
My friend's dating a horrible psycho cunt whore who's constantly bugging him to get married. He's not sure how he feels yet, and every time he tells me this, I remind him of the police report he had to file regarding the time she assaulted him. Or the time they had a fight and he made her walk 5 miles home from the store. Or the time she called him 27 times in an hour. Or the times he's shown up to hang sporting some nice scratch marks and bruises. Or the time she slept over, started a fight, and he threw her and her belongings out onto the front lawn. Or the fact that the whole relationship started when she was the "other woman" (which she was fully aware of and didn't care) while my friend had been dating another girl for 5 years, and he only started dating psycho girl full-time because his gf dumped him because he never proposed. Or the time…eh, you get the picture. The girl's trash. It's not even like she's hot or anything.
The weird thing is that my friend is the least argumentative or violent person I know…at least, until he started dating this fuckhole. But to date, his relationship with her hasn't affected ours. He just keeps them completely separate. He's fully aware of what a nut she is, but I think he's afraid of being alone if he dumps her. Of course, when they aren't having brawls, they get along great. But there's never an excuse for that kind of violence or anger with your gf/bf. You're supposed to feel safer with them than anyone in the world.
The thing is, I hate her and she's aware of it, and thus hates me back. If my friend marries this whore, I know it's going to affect our friendship. I mean, she'll move in with him, and there goes hanging at his place (he says that won't happen, but…). Unless he dumps her or insists on getting some couples thearpy (LOL) and tries to repair things between her and his friends (we all hate her), I don't see good things happening.
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It's do bad that the girl my buddy Conor married is so assholish that the core group of friends that we have had since we were playing baseball 15 years ago only see's him on the NFL Draft and New Years. It's weird, she was a sweetheart right up until he got married.
She hates me because I'm not married and have dated multiple girls
She hates my buddy Pepper because his wife thinks she's a cunt
She hates my buddy Crow because he once called her a pussy with 110 pounds of useless flesh along for the ride.
etc.
Don't worry Biff, when you're going to get married, I'll arrive with a shotgun and save you.
I won't fail you!
Good thing you're young, because it will be a while.
your friend is gone forever.
Same thing happened with my good friend Denis from high school. He broke up with his girlfriend for no reason, regretted it, got back together with her, she dumped him a month later, he met his next door neighbor and we all thought it would be ok, he found a rebound girl.
He lost his virginity to this rebound girl, they break up every week, his parents moved away and divorced, leaving him and his sister here in so cal, his girlfriends parents hate him, he never hangs out because she wont let him. He can never dirnk because she wont let him. He has to pick her up or she wont talk to him.
i get a headache just thinking about it, but i havent talked to him in months until he called me last friday asking where Dromo 1 is, because he wanted to take his girlfriend there for her birthday, forgetting my 21st as well.
douche.
Yes, yes it was Ramon, you are right on the button today.
Marriages are fucking so uncomfortable for everyone involved, ever.
I've hated them since I was a kid.
And yeah, you ain't ever getting that fucker back from her man, so just let it go. Its sad when you find out your poor sap friend never wanted anything else out of life other than to be led by the balls to an early grave by a woman. Cause you never think anyone can truly become like that till you see it happen with your own eyes.
You did the right thing in the end though, and thats something to feel ok about.
I still don't quite understand marriage. Why would any man willingly forgo the freedom to fuck various women by committing himself to what is essentially a depreciating asset? And don't say love because the definition of true love is two blind people playing tennis.
Marriage is antiquated and useless. The taxbreaks are far outweighed by the financial risk you take getting hitched. I always love it when guys get girls pregnant and automatically propose to them like robots designed to saddle down to one knee. How is a hateful, forced relationship healthy for a kid?
I was going to ask you why you're hanging around with such a fucking pussy. But then...
I read this. lol he forgot my birthdayQuote:
...for her birthday, forgetting my 21st as well.
That was some trippy shit right there.
I am fine with marriage, but I fully support pre-nups. Nobody can dick eachother over very easily if you do that properly.
He should've gotten a Massey prenup.
Or a good contract killer.
i agree Nomi, but my point is that you better get an ironclad agreement with no allowances for outs, there are tons of very good lawyers who treat these things like small hurdles.
That is my one victory, I made sure he got a prenup.
That was a good thing Cow, you were a great friend, but of course he'll be all locked up and you'll see him twice a year.
the worst part of all this is that cow is blowing off my birthday weekend to go to Daniel's bad-decision-party. wedding. i meant to say wedding.
OMG, a newbie, <3
Also, any friend of Cow's is cool with us, but watch our for Buttcheeks and Compass, they will try to convince you to post naked pics
They are gay, and not cool gay either, watch your anus my friend
THAT'S your first post here you asshole?
At least I'm lending him my xbox for the weekend while his is at the shop.
I love being married. It's awesome.
You guys are fucking retarded.
Your friend will want a divorce in a year or two. Just make a video now saying I told you so, so when he cries and whines about how expensive divorce is and all that shit, show him the video and laugh at his ass.
I'm not exactly the biggest optimist on the board (major lols) and I'm jaded against the entire institution due to how fucked up my family and married friends are. It's not the most intelligent thing in the world to me and I am irritated by people who don't at least consider what their immediate family/friends say about their spouse. People on the outside usually have a better perspective on it. I understand that they don't want to hear that sort of advice, but there you go.
The way I see it, at least a pre-nup means people acknowledge how shaky marriage is. They're not some idiots rushing in expecting shit to be happily ever after forever and ever. Shit happens. It's like insurance for how I see it. Not romantic, sure, but it's sensible.
This thread scares me. It's like no one has ever seen a good marriage before.
I've seen good marriages before.
The one this thread is about?
Not going to be one of them.
You might have a good marriage, but you know you can fuck tons of bitches.
Up until September of this year I hated weddings, thought they were the dumbest ideas ever, never cared at all about whether I got married or not (actually, I was vehemently against it, probably drove SapphirePhoenix nuts bitching about it). Then, I attended my best friend's wedding in the aforementioned month.
Wedding Pics / Reception Pics
Never seen two people more perfect for one another. Yeah, they look weird or whatever but who cares? I have literally never seen him so happy before, nor have I ever seen him be so motivated about anything. They make one another happy.
So the wedding story... He invited this girl he chased ALL through college to the wedding because they became really good friends after they realized a relationship wasn't the best course. I met up with her at the Starbucks so she could follow me to the wedding and she looked ridiculously hot. A few drinks into the wedding reception, I was dancing with her and stuff. I went inside to enjoy the air conditioning and she went with me. We fooled around on the couch (some pinot noir helped out, too) but didn't want to crash the wedding so we waited until after the festivities. Best fucking sex ever.
And that's the girl I'm with now. Heh.
All that said, Cow... prenup? I'll bet the answer is no. That marriage will not last at all. Even the lazy mofos like your buddy will realize that there are better women out there. Also, nothing wrong with small breasts.
EDIT: I just realized there's a picture of SpoDaddy in that second set. I look like SHIT in that pic! WOW.
Marriage isn't for everybody, but it makes sense for some people I guess.
Weddings are almost always bullshit though. I've always found it absurd that two people who are going to be living together, and already have two of everything they need, expect gifts and hold little fundraiser parties.
It's the ones getting divorced that need shit, not the ones getting married.
That said, I've been to some very cool, laid back weddings where the whole atmosphere is casual and fun and the couple getting married is just throwing a big happy party for all their friends and family. Traditional weddings, however, are just the insult added to the injury that is traditional marriage.
I've talked about it before, but our wedding was like this: We had our parents, brothers/sisters and one friend each. My sisters' husband is a minister and officiated. It was held at a historic mill house downtown that has been turned into a restaurant. The whole thing is maybe 10 tables including both floors. The wedding as downstairs and the reception upstairs. The executive chef of the restaurant prepared excellent food for us. Our hotel was across the street, so when we left we went upstairs, had sex, then went out to a punk bar with our friends and none of us paid for anything all night. All told, this cost about $2000.
Yeah, plus we're all depreciating assets ourselves.
A lot of people are just weak, too, and they get married because they think that's what they're supposed to do, because it's expected of them.
I have one friend from school who got married to his long time girlfriend this year. She was by his side through the best and worst parts of his life and knew she was the one. They're very happy together and doing ridiculously well. Gives hope to the rest of us.
I haven't been to a wedding that wasn't for a family member, but they always make me want to kill myself. I think it's all of that public affection--I'm really not comfortable around it.
I know a couple of people who have gotten married--one was a friend of mine's ex-girlfriend who married when she was 19, but she's Mormon so I guess that makes sense. Another was a girl I've known for a really long time and married a guy she dated since 10th grade. Both instances flash big, neon signs of TOO YOUNG TOO YOUNG. I don't get people's fucking hurry to rush into marriage. I've been dating my girlfriend for almost three years now and we don't even entertain the idea, but apparently everyone else fucking does. I'm in no goddamn hurry--and me generally not liking weddings isn't helping that.
Thankfully none of my friends are really on the road to hitchtown--but if they do they should probably not ask me to do a speech because I'm just going to make shit up.
for a lot of people it is kind of like getting a car or a job. It is something adults do and a lot of people confuse things that adults do for things that make you an adult. I think a lot of people do not feel like they have really grown up until they have achieved all the life stages that their parents have. A lot of people are not intelligent enough to realize that jumping through hoops does not make you an adult, that adulthood is a state of mind and a way of caring yourself.
Wrong. A real man will appreciate over time. A man becomes wiser, more mature, and more capable over time simply for the fact that he thinks less and less with his dick. Typically his earnings will increase, for some men, until perpetuity. A 40+ year old man can still be considered sexy, like a Brad Pitt or George Clooney. A real man will become more masculine over time. Age enhances a man's greatest assets: wisdom and wealth.
A woman's greatest asset is her looks, her physical attractiveness. It's what hooks men in the first, and, for some, the only place. This asset only depreciates over time. Women may become more beautiful on the inside, whatever that means, but certainly not on the outside. It's a slipperly slope for a woman after, say, 33 years.
It always boggles my mind when men fail to realize and utilize this leverage. God knows women exercise all the leverage they have.
This is so warped and wrong that I do not even know where to begin. Why do you categorize everything with women in terms of sex? If sex is not involved, then she's worthless? When women use this line of thinking, only with money instead of sex, we consider them to be gold digging whores, but you're essentially doing the same thing. The only thing depreciative about your assessment of women is the value you're place on them right from the outset.
Unless he's into young chicks or going through a mid life crisis, many older men have no trouble with a women their age. Most women get wiser with age too, have their financial situation sorted out, have the whole "gotta have kids" thing behind them, and are just looking for stable, loving company.
And there are some fucking ugly old dudes out there too.
I'm seeing so many people here treating marriage like it has to be some kind of business proposition, with all this bullshit talk of assets and financial risk. You're dealing with a human being, not some property or stock option. If you're so convinced that marriage = divorce and financial ruin then just stay single and fuck bitches like mad. There's nothing wrong with deciding to not be married, and while society does put a lot of stupid and unnecessary pressure on young people in this regard, no one's putting a gun to your head (unless you got her pregnant. :p ).
EVERYTHING you do in life involves some form of risk, and if you're that worried about that every woman out there only wants your cash (which is funny, since I'm pretty sure most of us here aren't Morphix to actually make such a point valid) then don't get married, plain and simple. Contrary to the jaded, bitter viewpoints out there, there are those of us who are happily married and wouldn't have it any other way.
Amen, Melf.
I don't knock gold diggers. I respect them because they know what they want in a man. It doesn't mean I agree with them but that I understand them. Sex probably loses importance after a while, I'm sure, but it hasn't yet for me so I'm not going to try and adopt your perspective when I don't yet have to.
Of course women get wiser with age. But they're already wiser earlier in the lives than men are, so it's already part of their leverage. They know the effect they can have on men. They're fully aware of how dire a situation it can be to be a single woman in her mid-to-late 30's. They realize the pressure family and peers place on them to get married and have kids. They understand their biological clock. Wisdom is more of an obvious asset for aging men because men are dumbassess for so much of their early lives that wisdom is almost a newly acquired virtue that comes only with age. There are exceptions obviously.Quote:
Unless he's into young chicks or going through a mid life crisis, many older men have no trouble with a women their age. Most women get wiser with age too, have their financial situation sorted out, have the whole "gotta have kids" thing behind them, and are just looking for stable, loving company.
Don't be so hard on yourself, but yes, I agree. But it's a good thing old men generally aren't measured on their looks. It tends to be wealth, status, family, accomplishments, legacy, etc.Quote:
And there are some fucking ugly old dudes out there too.
I see too many people who think you have to get married if you're in love. What's wrong with living together? Having kids together? Do you really need the church and state to recognize your union to make your love and commitment feel official?Quote:
I'm seeing so many people here treating marriage like it has to be some kind of business proposition, with all this bullshit talk of assets and financial risk. You're dealing with a human being, not some property or stock option. If you're so convinced that marriage = divorce and financial ruin then just stay single and fuck bitches like mad. There's nothing wrong with deciding to not be married, and while society does put a lot of stupid and unnecessary pressure on young people in this regard, no one's putting a gun to your head (unless you got her pregnant. :p ).
I'm sure you say that everyday. I'm happy for you. But I'd have to assume you're in the minority of guys who have been married for 10+years and are still happy. If you have only been married for a short period of time, well, then I'll have to discount your opinion a bit just based on my life's observations and get back to you when/if you hit that 10 mark.Quote:
EVERYTHING you do in life involves some form of risk, and if you're that worried about that every woman out there only wants your cash (which is funny, since I'm pretty sure most of us here aren't Morphix to actually make such a point valid) then don't get married, plain and simple. Contrary to the jaded, bitter viewpoints out there, there are those of us who are happily married and wouldn't have it any other way.
There's only one way to go.
Because they got married and divorced and robbed some guy blind.Quote:
have their financial situation sorted out
Menopause does have its up-side.Quote:
have the whole "gotta have kids" thing behind them
At least one partner needs to be stable.Quote:
and are just looking for stable, loving company.
Overruled. Wanting a beautiful and attractive wife by your side can be as much a pride/status thing as well as a sign of her commitment to you as it can be for sex, especially for a 50+ year-old man who can't get it up anymore anyway. For example, even if I were to get married, I'd still work out, commit to a healthier lifestyle, and look and stay attractive for my wife. It's fucking respect, man.
you have hit on something i've always noticed but nobody else seems to. every friend of mine either has kids or married or both. i am the only not married guy left from our group. everybody always asks when i will. if i date a girl for over a year it always comes up again. i've also noticed every girl 25 or older feels the need to always talk about getting married someday but that "nobody would marry them.....they'll never find that one guy". then why fucking mention it? why date? up until 24 girls are all about being bar whoares. after that they want to have a family. then when the marriages don't work and they're 30 they become bar whoares again.
I can't believe the amount of pussification in this thread. Do you watch the fucking View every day?
It's not Mrs. Yoshi. It's the whole institution. Mrs. Yoshi is well above average for her flawed ass gender. She'll come home from work sometimes and say, "Women are stupid." How can you argue with that? She also has better taste in games than half this board.
Statements like this are why I can't accept your argument. You're implying that I no longer have interest in sex because I'm married? That's just ignorant dude. I never implied that sex wasn't important, and I sure as heck never said that marriage kills interest in it. Maintaining a healthy sex life is basic to any relationship - married, living together, whatever. Being married has nothing to do with sex losing importance, as there are plenty of unmarried couples who have lost their sexual passion.
Enough of the stereotypes already. All women are scared to be single and in their '30s? All women are racing against the biological clock? You do realize that there are plenty of women out there who have no interest in getting married or having kids, right? I don't know who indoctrinated you so much against women, but you're making some sweeping generalizations here.Quote:
Of course women get wiser with age. But they're already wiser earlier in the lives than men are, so it's already part of their leverage. They know the effect they can have on men. They're fully aware of how dire a situation it can be to be a single woman in her mid-to-late 30's. They realize the pressure family and peers place on them to get married and have kids. They understand their biological clock. Wisdom is more of an obvious asset for aging men because men are dumbassess for so much of their early lives that wisdom is almost a newly acquired virtue that comes only with age. There are exceptions obviously.
Since you seem to know so much about how women think, I'm going to assume that you know that many older women have no interest in looks? That's right, they're all gold diggers who are only looking a man so they can take his money and sperm!Quote:
Don't be so hard on yourself, but yes, I agree. But it's a good thing old men generally aren't measured on their looks. It tends to be wealth, status, family, accomplishments, legacy, etc.
No you don't. That's what I said about it not being a big deal for someone to not want to get married. A wise person once said to me "you have your whole life to do two things: go to college and get married." There's no expiration date on either one and no obligation to do either. But since you did go down this route, you do realize that living together brings most of the same sexual and emotional baggage as being married, right? And that having kids brings the same legal and financial baggage, married or not?Quote:
I see too many people who think you have to get married if you're in love. What's wrong with living together? Having kids together? Do you really need the church and state to recognize your union to make your love and commitment feel official?
I don't say it every day, because I don't need to constantly remind myself that I'm happy. Do you tell yourself every day that you love your job or parents? You shouldn't have to do that. If you love someone, you just do, and it's something that's just with you constantly. You shouldn't have to give yourself little post-its to remind yourself every day.Quote:
I'm sure you say that everyday. I'm happy for you. But I'd have to assume you're in the minority of guys who have been married for 10+years and are still happy. If you have only been married for a short period of time, well, then I'll have to discount your opinion a bit just based on my life's observations and get back to you when/if you hit that 10 mark.
I've been married for 8 1/2 years and have two kids, and the thing I most cherish in this world is my family. If I'm in a minority, then I guess that would make me one lucky mofo. But considering that not everyone shares my definition of happiness, I'm happy with my life within my context of the term. I don't care what society thinks I should be doing with my life at 34, or how many kids I should have, etc. I decided to get married because I wanted to, plain and simple. Living together seems like the faux hawk of relationships in that you want the benefits without the obligations. Things don't work out? Cut and run. Granted, many people see that as a benefit, and I understand and respect that. My idea of commitment is just different, I guess.
Are you married or have you been in a long-term relationship? Considering the things you're saying, I'd hope you had the experience to back it up. I'm sure there are plenty of guys here who have and had things go sour, and perhaps that's why so many people are sour on marriage.
Says the man who CONSTANTLY bitches about his wife but doesn't leave her.
So you're just taking out your hatred of the entire genre on her? :p
yoshi found out too late he prefers dudes :(
LOL genre
IT's gonna be awesome when some of you stone cold gangster fronters meet a woman you really love.
Just because they don't believe in marriage doesn't mean they won't ever find a girl to settle down with. You get so fucking aggressive about anything that has anything to do with you.
Icarus is right, marriage is awesome.
I just got married in August so I might still be in the honeymoon phase or whatever, but I can't imagine living my entire life single, hopping from one sketchy girl to the next. I like security, I don't like to gamble with random hookups and all the drama it attracts. I've had all the drunken/kinky/porno sex with crazy girlfriends I've wanted to have (not a ton, but enough to say I've done everything I've ever wanted to do in the bedroom), so it's not like I'm missing out on anything by sleeping with one woman for the rest of my life. My wife is super hot, has a master's in education, is extremely mellow and definitely not psychotic, and best of all, I have absolutely no desire to hang myself everytime she opens her mouth.
But then again I'm 32. I NEVER would have considered getting married when I was 25. Shit changes when you get older.
If I had to start over, I would like to be a divorce lawyer. Because business is good, and it is only going to get better.
I fell in love, got my shit wrecked by a girl that in the end was just slime.
I swear I'm so happy with my current girl because she's so mellow. She's playing the wii right now and I'm taking care of my shit. However, it's time to go to the wedding :(
I agree with Calliander.
If you want my honest opinion, what I would do in this situation? Write up a list of everything that's wrong with this woman, and why, and when the preacher asks if anyone have any objections, list them.
Both families may hate you (Though probably just the wife's family) But I'd rather do everything I can to save this person even if it meant ostracizing myself from his life.
If you do this, you will get my vote for TNL Person of the Year.
This is the problem, though. You're posting from the perspective of an outsider to a new marriage. Wait a couple of years and see how much his life has changed for the worse (or maybe the better if he's a lucky guy) before writing this marriage down as a success.
The fact of the matter is that marriage does more harm than good to a man, on average. There is a time and place for marriage, but that time is ESPECIALLY not when you're young. Your supposed to be out in the world trying to earn money and gain some kind of substance to your life. Nesting can wait, since you can do that any time.
Marriage IS a business decision. You can love somebody without marrying them, and even raise loved children without marrying them. Don't go in to a marriage blind about money or you'll be rudely awakened one day. You're absolutely right about Gooch's hilarious assessment of a woman's value -- they have more going for them than looks. But as a whole women are socially irresponsible with their money, typically hoping a man they marry will bail them out of debt. Not to mention the cost of most marriages most women desire is enough to start off any marriage in financial hardship.
You have to really be careful. Loving someone does not mean putting all your eggs in one very brittle basket. Anybody who would ask you to do that isn't exactly thinking about you that much in the first place.
Which I normally agree 100% with. Knowing my buddy, though, and knowing this girl he married real well already (there was almost no breakin period, she just fell right in with us as though we'd all been friends from day one), I can tell he won't just give up if things get bad and neither will she.
Hehe. How young do you think we are? My buddy's been through college, has his job, is earning his money, just bought a house, etc. She has a job, is earning money, etc. Here's something interesting, though, that may change your mind about their particular instance: she cannot have kids. He wants to. She suggested that he sleep with one of her friends who can, then they can raise the child. When I asked her why she would be okay with that, she said, "He gets laid, so does one of my friends. I don't see a problem there."Quote:
The fact of the matter is that marriage does more harm than good to a man, on average. There is a time and place for marriage, but that time is ESPECIALLY not when you're young. Your supposed to be out in the world trying to earn money and gain some kind of substance to your life. Nesting can wait, since you can do that any time.
Marriage is more than a business decision because the laws of our land is kinda kooky. If you have an accident and your gf wants to see you, isn't that not allowed? Or if there is a decision that must be made on your behalf, only the spouse or next of kin has the authority right? I remember reading that somewhere, maybe someone who knows the law better can chime in.
I know there is common law thing too.
I agree with you in theory, but in practicality, there is an advantage to being married than just living together. One example is getting insurance coverage for the spouse (that falls under the business decision).