IGN's Top 10 Most Influential Games

Ok Again I will quote myself and say. BEST OF LISTS AND INFLUENTIAL LISTS DON'T MEAN SHIT WHEN YOU DON'T DEFINE YOUR FUCKING PARAMETERS!

This list feels like "First game of each Genre that one guy heard of"

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Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

Ok Again I will quote myself and say. BEST OF LISTS AND INFLUENTIAL LISTS DON'T MEAN SHIT WHEN YOU DON'T DEFINE YOUR FUCKING PARAMETERS!

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IGN writers can't even spell parameters.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

That's right, kids. Street Fighter II didn't even make the runners up list. I can't wait for MarkRyan's explanation of this mess.

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"I didn't make the list" is my explanation. My guess is they figured Karate Champ has that genre covered, which I don't really agree with.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

yeah i saw this yesterday. i can't understand how GTA3 is "influential". and two FPS on the list?

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I hate GTA3 but I'll admit it's a very influential game. Both influential in the success of PS2 and in the direction a lot of games took. There are numerous outright clones of GTA (Simpsons Hit and Run, Scarface, True Crime), and other games adopted very GTA-inspired elements, from established franchises like Driver and Spider-Man to new games such as Assassin's Creed.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

Their recent top 100 was pretty much an "influential" list. Why do we need another one to list almost the same mainstream stuff?

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The list is pretty different I think. Besides, mainstream stuff is bound to actually be the influential stuff.

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Originally Posted by Thief Silver

I don't know how to feel about IGN. They reword their writer's own articles

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Wha?

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they inflate scores

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No more than other publications.

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They'll sell out their pages to the highest bidder

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That's how advertising works.

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basically when they wave their big financial cock around

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I've never seen this thing, sounds epic.

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Originally Posted by MarkRyan

The list is pretty different I think. Besides, mainstream stuff is bound to actually be the influential stuff.

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:wtf:

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Originally Posted by MarkRyan

I hate GTA3 but I'll admit it's a very influential game. Both influential in the success of PS2 and in the direction a lot of games took. There are numerous outright clones of GTA (Simpsons Hit and Run, Scarface, True Crime), and other games adopted very GTA-inspired elements, from established franchises like Driver and Spider-Man to new games such as Assassin's Creed.

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if that's the stipulations than a shit ton of games downright copied SF2, not Karate Champ.

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Originally Posted by MarkRyan

The list is pretty different I think. Besides, mainstream stuff is bound to actually be the influential stuff.

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I know mainstream stuff is bound to be included on a purely influential list which is why I rarely complain about the picks on them. However, the top 100 factored in influence/popularity pretty heavily it seems and included most of these games already which is why it's kind of stupid to do an influential list so soon afterwards.

I don't remember the industry going "Oh shit, Karate Champ is the balls, everybody make Karate Champ clones!" I do remember the industry going "Oh shit, Street Fighter 2 is the balls, everybody make Street Fighter 2 clones!"

I think Karate Champ did have a lot of influence. Games like Way of the Exploding Fist and International Karate were quite big on computers, especially in Europe. SF2 certainly had more imitators, though.

That same logic applies with Wolfenstein 3D over Doom. The bottom line here is that it doesn't matter what parameters or logic were used, because IGN's collective industry knowledge is so limited that they cannot possibly get it right, no matter what rules they play by.