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You either made some poor hardware/software choices or didn't configure something correctly. I can't remember the last PC game I had any problem with, except for having to rig Halo 2 to run on XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Not being able to rent games and the bullshit late releases because of pirating assholes are the lone weaknesses of the platform.
Interesting comment, since your most recently played 360 game runs better on PS3 by all accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
"Pieces of shit like Saint's Row 2 aren't nearly as common anymore."
But SR2 PC is less than 6 months old. Anyway, I use XPadder. It works fine, but the problem I am running into with SC (and have yet to bother fixing) is that the gamepad is enabled by default. Which is fine if the gamepad configuration worked. But it doesn't So what I will have to do is find a way to disable gamepad support in SC and then use XPadder.
"Interesting comment, since your most recently played 360 game runs better on PS3 by all accounts. "
But not yours, since you haven't played it. I've played both versions. They're indentical. Even if they weren't, we're looking at one game out of god knows how many, and that doesn't even matter since no one plays it on PS3.
No, you get XBCD. You're creating your own problems here.
LOL you don't even know what the problem is. You've probably never even played the game in the first place.
It's not a game problem. XBCD is a controller driver. It's at the OS level, so the game doesn't fucking matter.
Yeah and? If the game doesn't fucking work, all the drivers in the world aren't going to save me.
You just said that the controller configuration in the game isn't working. You don't need it with XBCD, because you configure the controller in Windows. Maybe you're just doing a shitty job describing your problem in the wrong thread.
I don't know if that's a joke post. I haven't even said what the problem was. I am not asking anyone here for advice on how to fix it. The point was that you have to go through a lot of rigamarole to get things working 100% for a lot of games out there.
Oh really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
What was this then?Quote:
Originally Posted by [QUOTE=Joust Williams
No, you don't. Like I said, you either made some poor choices or configured something wrong. It's easy as hell these days to game on a PC. It's basically a console with more flexibility.Quote:
The point was that you have to go through a lot of rigamarole to get things working 100% for a lot of games out there.
That is a very vague description of the problem. About as vague as 'shit's broke, captain'
So what the hell do you play on PC, Yoshi, that always works flawlessly? Hard mode: name a multiplatform game that isn't by Valve or Fallout 3.
Off the top of my head, Mirror's Edge, Assassin's Creed and Dead Space destroy the console releases.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
Assassin's Creed has a godawful UI (it takes about 15 submenus to properly exit the game) and runs at anamorphic 16:9, no matter what resolution you use. I'll grant Mirror's Edge. Haven't tried the PC version of Dead Space.
Devil May Cry 4, Pure, Red Alert 3.
You're complaining about stuff that's exactly the same in the console release. Except I can play these games at 1600p. (Alt-F4 quits AC very nicely, lols)Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
FYI, Mirror's Edge also does the forced 16:9 ratio. Doesn't bother me, even with a 16:10 monitor.
Pure has longer load times by a wide margin on PC, Red Alert 3 is a PC game ported to consoles, and Devil May Cry 4 is technically amazing on PC but unplayable without a gamepad.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstBlood
I honestly didn't notice it in Mirror's Edge. Interesting. And being the same as a console release is not exactly a good thing. I pity people with 5:4 monitors who attempt to play Assassin's Creed. Furthermore, AC has some serious audio popping and crackling on my system that I haven't heard in any other game.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Strange, I don't get the audio issue.
Anyway, what are we arguing about again? PC games usually require tweaking to get shit right. That's been the case for decades even if it's gotten much easier. But when everything's set up correctly, it's worth the trouble.This would only be a problem if the game didn't allow you to use a pad, which happened with many Xbox1-era ports. Things are better now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
http://amyruttan.com/blog/wp-content...842b8978b1.jpgQuote:
Devil May Cry 4 is technically amazing on PC but unplayable without a gamepad.
All this vagina napalm, christ. Enjoy what you want to enjoy...but if you wany mp, go xbl all the way. There is no better online game on a console than gears, followed closely by COD4n and NHL09. Xbox has provided me the ability to nearly always have 4-8 guys ready to go.
Can't wait for the new battlefield coming out, that shit's gonna be nice.
like all FPS games.. it'll be better on the PCQuote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
Like all FPS games... it won't make a lick of difference if you enjoy playing with a pad.Quote:
Originally Posted by sedition
And got a ton of cool fuckers to play with.
Shouldn't you be at a concert or something? If not then get the hell on Gears now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
Posting from phone, this shit is real exciting.
PC Dead Space crashed a lot for me. The controls still make it better than on console, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
I look at it this way, the only two game series I play are baseball mogul and total war.
I like fps with controller, don't know why, just do.
I also like sports games...
Like UFC for example, in order to play it on a pc (its not available) I would need a 360 pad, and since I alreay have a 360 pad..for my 360..why wouldn't I just play in on there?
BECAUSE PC GIVES YOU MORE PIXEL PER DOLLAR!!!
and it already came out last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2-4mOEoAhQ
Um, ok. Quake Wars: Enemy Territory. No idea why that was the first one to come to mind, but it was. Bioshock would have been the second to come to mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
There's something to be said for having a game that actually looks and runs better over time.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
And something to be said for a game that looks and runs well the moment I put it into the machine.
Man, deja vu.
HEY I'M JUST SAYING!
I really don't have anything against PC gaming (except for the PC snobs), but man, I could never myself be a PC gamer. Playing games sitting at my desk is not at all my thing (unless we're talking WoW), and the headaches I've had to put up with simply from that game alone make me realize I don't have it in me to ever do any serious gaming on a machine where the entire process isn't just sticking in a disc and hitting play. (Okay, to be fair, I can accept the one-time install stuff from things like PS3 games.)
And before the "then hook your PC up to a TV" thing, the only way a PC is ever getting near my television is if it's one of those nice Dell Studio Hybrids with the pretty but overpriced bamboo finish.
PC or GTFO!
And see, I am a PC gamer. But mostly for the PC exclusives and multiplatform games that are primarily targeted at PC and then ported to console. A large number of the games developed for console and then ported to PC have serious issues, which is why I find the 'everything is better on PC' argument ridiculous.
Several of the big-name publishers have made huge improvements to their PC ports in the last few years. Capcom, EA and Ubisoft in particular.
Nearly every recent port I've played is, at worst, equivalent to the console version but with better performance. And I can't even remember the last PC game that I couldn't get working reliably. Most were fine as soon as Steam finished downloading.
Anyway, I clicked on this thread earlier without looking at the title and I only later realized that I've been preaching PC zealotry in a 360 thread.
pc ports are inherently easier from 360 titles because of the framework they use now
AC is still better than the console version. Runs great, looks great, UI is same as the console and fine if you use a game pad (having to quit twice is silly, sure, but big deal) and it's got extra shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
This gen, I think PC ports have been mostly very good. Maybe it's the 360's PC-like hardware or something, but I've not had any real problems in a long time. Well, ok, Overlord's framerate is shit unless you have a better CPU than you should have to, but for the most part...
Before letting this die, since we're way off topic, the one thing that really irks me about PC developers in 2009 is how few utilize Game for Windows LIVE. Microsoft changed it to be free to both players and developers, so there is no fee. In a lot of cases (I'm looking at you, EA), console versions have the Achievements stripped out for the PC version. Capcom is getting this right with SFIV and hopefully everything thereafter. Sega is putting it in everything these days. Others need to follow suit.
agreed
Here's a hard question to answer: In an association of two things that suck, will Peter Molyneaux make Rare better or worse?
Banjo and Viva Pinatas are pretty good games.... so Molyneaux will make it worse.
Let's pray he's a Blast Corps fan.
The one thing that worries me about GFW Live is what happens in twenty years when MS decides to shitcan the servers. That would spell the end for any multiplayer gaming done through GFW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Why so he can desecrate that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
You think you're still going to want to play whatever the fuck is out today in 20 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
people still play sf2 super turbo and that's gotta be close to 20 by now
There are other ways to play that game by now, just like there will be other ways to play today's games by them. His complaint has been invalidated.
SF says hi.
Your mom says hi.
Josh is right, why the hell would you worry about 20 years from now? I can understand maybe 1 or 2 years....
Those who are dedicated to video games keep their stuff for about that long. Think about how many people still own an NES that functions. It's acceptable to want this stuff to last that long.
It does work (assuming there is any working 360 in 20 years) but he is worry about the online part, which I am sure there are ways to get around. Stop being stupid.
How is he being stupid when you're the one assuming shit will work in 20 years. I think its a perfectly valid concern. Think about Starcraft, thats 10 years old now and it's still a very popular online game. While there is an online alternative, what would happen if Blizzard sued them into oblivion for allowing pirated copies and violating the terms of service and then shut off the Battle.net servers? Blizzard probably doesn't care all that much anymore but I could see Microsoft being douchebags, yes.
kof is from China. If the shit they manufacture works a week from Thursday, you're lucky.
A week? I give it a day and call it Hallelujah.
You cite one of the best RTS as your example. There is nothing in the MS camp that even remotely warrants a game to be played for 10 years this one is for you YoshiQuote:
Originally Posted by Error
I think you guys are going overboard with the 20 year stuff, did Sony just hired you as PR?
I know for online games, it would be lucky if I still play it online after a couple of years. If you say offline stuff doesn't work after X years, then I would agree.
I'd rather play balloon fight than most xb360 games
This is a serious concern, in my opinion. We should probably move this discussion over to the PC thread because I doubt any 360s will still be functioning after 20 years, though.
But anyway, I think there is a serious lack of foresight in the gaming industry. Every company is (rightfully, in some people's views) concerned more about short-term profit than long-term usability of their products.
Look at any DRM that requires online authentication. Is it going to be possible to play legitimate copies of games 20 years from now, or will we be relying upon those evil pirates to provide us with versions that still function properly? Even Steam is a concern. Valve has said that they'd do away with authentication should they ever go out of business, but do you really think that a company going under is going to devote any time to unlocking their authentication servers? Suddenly those janky Steamrips might be our only means of playing stuff like Zeno Clash.
Games For Windows Live is another problem. At least it allows offline play, but doesn't all matchmaking go through Microsoft's servers? What happens when those go down? What happens with other matchmaking systems that use central servers? Battle.net was brought up, and Blizzard successfully sued and shut down the one alternative to their servers that was being developed.
My point is that companies don't last forever, but games do. And I think it's a sad state of affairs right now when games are being crippled in the long-term, and the DMCA is being used to shut down efforts to bypass the protections that will eventually render them unplayable.
I don't care too much because there will be ways to play games.
GOG.com is amazing btw.
This whole 20 year shit thing is bonkers. I can clearly play any game I want to from 20 years ago on my PC. If you really want to play it, you'll find a way.
Yes, but how many games from 20 years ago had dedicated servers?
On a side note, who wants to play Alien Front Online with me today...oh wait, that's right...
I bet you can find a homebrew server.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGcritic
I bet you can't.
Maybe if it was a decent game like PSO you could.
You are right, no one wants to play that POS.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGcritic
Maybe you should set one up then.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGcritic
So I could disprove my point? I don't think so.
Yeah, forget what I said. Complaining is fun!
So I got my "new" 360 back from MS today. From the day I tossed it in the mail to when the UPS guy dropped off my box, it took 11 days. Not a bad turn around, but since MS has fixed so damn many of these things, they probably have it down to a science already.
It's a July '08 model (the one I sent was April '08). Should I start worrying already? I saved the foam and the bag it came in, because I know it's going to die again. I place zero credibility in the model revisions, but when did the "revised" models come out? How do I tell if this is one of them?
December 08 Also - they have a different voltage. My brick isn't nearby so I can't tell you.
I could have sworn the safe systems started showing up in stores around fall of last year. Maybe be off by a month or two there. You may be close to one of the safe systems with that build.
Definitely sooner than that. I bought mine in November of 08 and it uses less voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chux
So both XBL and Zune are down. Should we expect them to be integrated when they're back up?
Hm, maybe.
I hope adding those Netflix updates (queue from 360, party watching) are part of the downtime, too.
While I like the idea of party watching, I can foresee there being the obligatory obnoxious talker during each movie (if you actually want to watch it). It'll probably be fun in a Mystery Science Theater 3000 way though.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by OGcritic
Srsly, I'm not going to watch any movies I really want to see with the thing. It's for shit like Sleepaway Camp XII and Aztec Rex.
still though, I hope there is a way to quickly MUTE ALL if you want to hear some of the dialogue at a specific point.
There was two voltage drops, I have the lowest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Is Live back yet? This is bullshit.
It's a day. Go outside.
But it's already dark!
There will be no added features when Live returns, this is just scheduled maintenance to get it ready.
These movies are so fucking horrible oh my god.Quote:
Sleepaway Camp XII
Farging live, I only get a chance to play 2 days in a row like twice a year.
I'm going to go outside and piss on my dogs. That should make me feel a little better!
You know PB Max the maintenance shutdown was listed in the Event calender for a week and a half right?
Yeah. It's still BS.
Play an offline game, I'm using my time to tackle Bionic Commando.
click here to play frogger
You mean like pulling the headset off your ear for a few minutes? Or turning the volume down for the part you want to hear? Possibly unplugging the headset and plugging it back in when you're done?Quote:
Originally Posted by OGcritic
But that would take too much work. There needs to be a button, or even better a button combo, to mute everyone. Especially since having the controller in your hands the entire time is a must.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timber
I call bullshit on that one. You play 5 days in a row almost every week. Biff the ultimate fronter confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
There is. It's built into the headphone. It's called a volume knob.
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Originally Posted by Timber
Why? Who is the dumb fuck that doesn't have an HDD?
edit: This post motivated me to use the search function to create some trivia. How many posts have I made that include the word "fuck"?
One thousand three hundred nineteen and counting
I've made 5000. I'm sure it just stopped counting once it hit that number.
313 fuck.
172 fucking.
That can't be right.