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Then the terms of service would be different, wouldn't they?
Not necessarily. They share other company's content. Hulu makes original shit but it sucks and it's not their main bag. Netflix sends other companies' films. Microsoft has no control over that.
Except you're not right here in the US. You're not a State, and you may have different licensing. Maybe Netflix has issues with licensing streaming movies to PR because you are not an official full 100% part of the US. You have to realize the problem may not be coming from MS/Netflix and may becoming from the Studios. This isn't Netflix saying every one can stream movies except NY! Become a State and I bet a lot of this shit would change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Except none of that applies to DC, which isn't a state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
We don't say mang. And everything John said I've already said.
ok mang.
You aren't paying more though. Netflix never raised the price of it's subscriptions for Instant access. It's part of the unlimited plans. If someone has one of those plans but doesn't use Instant, they don't get a discount either. Netflix is the only subscription service that I've ever had that has actually gotten cheaper since I've had it (2004).Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Except DC is a federal district where in lies the Capital of the US. They did that so that no one state or territory could take priority because the capital sat with in its borders. PR is a Commonwealth, a self-governing, unincorporated territory. Much different than a federal district and that's why none of that applies to DC. Again become a full on State and that shit would change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Whether they use it or not isn't the same as it not even being in the plan. All of Netflix's plans include the unlimited streaming. This does not apply outside of the US, though. My gripe is that Netflix is still charging the same price despite not offering the streaming option. If the whole OMG LICENSING! thing was an issue (that doesn't affect PR because I can still get the DVDs like anywhere in the US), then fine. Lower the price, since you're not including all the features. They want me to pay the same price as all of you, but they don't want to let me stream. That's bullshit.
The territory/federal district issue shouldn't apply to this though. In fact, DC is pretty much exactly like PR politically. Moreover, PR is governed by all the same inter-state commerce policies (at the federal level) as any state. Maybe this is a local issue, and the government here is being shitty about it, but we're talking about a standard sales policy (again, TOS are the same) that's simply not followed when PR is involved.
Being able to buy/rent a DVD is different than allowing someone to stream it to multiple houses all at once. How are you not getting this?
It's the same plan from the same service nationwide. What's there to get? Explain to me how it's different. For all your spam, you're still not answering the question. You also haven't disputed my claim. Why am I wrong to criticize Netflix for charging me the same as the US for a service that has half the features?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I never even addressed your criticism of it; I'm addressing your crying about the Terms of Service. Puerto Rico is NOT a state. Can you read that? Okay, here it is in bigger letters:
So their contracts with the film studios may only say they have the right to stream it in the Continental U.S., the whole U.S., or U.S. and its territories. It can also omit states if it wants to. You're looking at rights for DVDs and rights for instant streaming as the same thing when they aren't the same at all.
And why should their pricing plan be different for you? You choose to live in Puerto Rico. You can move. Then the plan makes sense. Shit, you can also opt NOT to subscribe to Netflix. I'm sure they won't miss you. You're not a snowflake. I'm sure most of their customers come from the States anyway.
If you look at the whole argument before citing shit that's not relevant, you might understand. THE TERMS OF SERVICE WERE THE SAME. The same TOS I agreed to with Netflix was the same as yours. There was no indication, AT ALL, ANYWHERE, that they only streamed to the Continental US or just the 50 states. I know this because I ACTUALLY SUBSCRIBED. So, please read the full argument before you post useless shit in pink. ;)
The pricing plan should be different because A) they make no indication that there is a geographical difference, and B), and here's the part where you reeeeaaaally need to read, they do not indicate that the option is unavailable when you subscribe. It was only AFTER I subscribed and actually tried to stream a video that a message came up to tell me it wasn't an available feature. That's false advertising, and it's bullshit.
And I am a snowflake. A pretty one too.
*EDIT: LOl, they've amended the TOS to specify it since last year. I guess they finally realized the mistake. I went over that shit with a fine-tooth comb when I subscribed, so I KNOW it wasn't there before. Funny how they make no mention of the limitation anywhere else though. I guess they figure you won't care once you sign up. Fuck them.
I don't see why they would give a discount when they don't charge extra for it. Postage is probably the biggest overhead they have, which is built into the price.
Complain to the people that hold the licenses for the h.264 codec on your island. You may want to PM TypeRyan about this... seriously.
But I don't want onions on my sandwich, it should be thirty cents cheaper!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
You get it for free for a couple of weeks. You can find out first hand if you can't get it. By then you should have canceled your Netflix account. Really this is still your fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
I mean. I'm just sayin'.
Oh, I canceled as soon as I found out. It sucks that they still advertise it all over the place, but what can you do? I read somewhere that they were going to take it outside the US this year, but that hasn't happened yet. Hulu will probably do the same thing too.
Why wouldn't you just use a proxy to stream Netflix, if you're out of country?
http://puertorico.countrytoolbox.com...-online-trick/
Because Netflix should do the work for him.
Only a matter of time before Hulu goes pay. I think they are currently planning on having a few episodes (the most recent I think) available for free and the rest is going to be locked to whatever sub price they come up with.
Yes, Netflix should do the work. I'd have to pay a monthly fee for the proxy, on top of the Netflix fee. Double the cost for the same features! Awesome.
That's absurd for the shit quality they provide. I'll just go back to downloading eps myself. By the by, has Hulu been dropping shows in order for them to get a bigger slice of the advertising pie? Or the other way around? I know they don't have as many shows on as they had before.
Stop watching movies and give your kid some attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
I smacked her around earlier this afternoon, before going out to exchange my food stamps for cash so I can buy cigarettes and beer. She's good for today.
If Netflix never charged any costumers more for the addition of streaming content and XBL never charged more for allowing the use of Netflix streaming what exactly is there to complain about?
Who's wearing costumes?
:lol: I would edit and fix it but that shit is funny.
Question about XBL billing: I tried to use my Discover card to buy MS points last night, but for some reason, MS "couldn't authorize" my card. The same thing then happened with my Mastercard (one I've been using on Live for 6 years). Then today, I get a call from Discover saying they've frozen my account because someone attempted to make an unauthorized charge last night to the card for the amount of $1. The source?
Microsoft billing.
Is this the way MS "authorizes" cards, by charging $1 to them? I don't know if it was actually them, but who the fuck tries to use a stolen CC number to charge a dollar? And it was right after I tried and failed to use the card to buy MS points. I used the card yesterday afternoon for groceries in Walmart with no problem at all, BTW.
Yes, many companies do that. They charge a small amount (usually just one dollar) and then refund it once the funds have gone through to confirm that it's a valid card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
You shouldn't have said anything. I like seeing him go absolutely nutshit over this stuff. Well, maybe they'll have another contest for the US soon
i tease because i love
Many gas stations will do this for pay-at-the-pump transactions!Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Some even do the full amount. The big convenience chain in my area Country Fair will put a hold on the total amount of gas you're getting.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Lol, nah, I just didn't know if it was legit. The funny thing is that they couldn't authorize the card, yet I've used it on Live before. My MasterCard has also been used for almost 7 years just fine, but now they suddenly can't authorize it. I have no idea why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Ah, shit. I need to dig up that Amex knowledge that hasn't leaked out of my ears yet since being fired...
All gas stations do this when you pay at the pump. They don't know how much you are going to charge before you begin pumping, so they usually get approval for $75-$100. When the station submits the actual transaction, that will (usually, in a perfect world) cause the approval amount to drop off your account and the actual transaction amount to post to your credit card.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
All credit card companies keep a close eye on what's happening on your credit reporting. If one credit card is reporting suspicious activity, then it's most likely going to trigger a red flag with your other credit cards as well. The problem is, in this case, Master Card can't see that Microsoft Billing, a charge you've made numerous times in the past, is the source of concern for Discover - just that there is a concern; so they put a hold on everything until it's cleared up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
It's fucked up from a consumer viewpoint, but I can understand their need to protect their business assists as well.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/06/...-wave-rebrand/
"If you thought you could just ignore Wave (Project Natal) you would be wrong. Microsoft appears to have plans to introduce Wave into every part of the Xbox 360.
Images surfaced over the weekend of the box art for upcoming games Kane and Lynch 2 and Deus Ex, which showed changes to the top bar of the cover art. The most notable change appears to be the addition of a green wave which is very similar to the E3 Project Natal invites sent out earlier this year.
This replaces the Live logo and grey curves we’ve all become accustomed to.
In addition, according to JustPushStart the rebranding won’t stop there: these changes are also set to hit the console’s home screen. If you have forgotten what the Wave looked like we have pictures below but it is very much like the wave that appears as the default PS3 background in green.
I think it is safe to assume we’ll find out more about this, if indeed there is more to find out, at E3 next week."
It's about time they change the bootup screen.
Looks retro.
Looks like shit.
Looks like I can easily ignore it.
Looks cool.
Looks like BP is sponsoring it.
Only if they let you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
People love S curves.
See: Coca-Cola Classic, Women.
You are right. I have seen others tackled by Microsoft employees who would then proceed to pry their eyes open and force them to look at their packaging design choices. They can be crafty ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Nike, Asics, Pepsi.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Obama.
Mortal Kombat.
I was just thinking that. At least with MS it makes sense relating to the name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I know there are a few people here who are looking forward to the new Transformers game.
360 gets the exclusive online multiplayer demo tomorrow.
Dinobots...?
Almost certainly no. Shockwave and Jazz are retailer exclusives though.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Ah! Don't care.
I'm still pissed about the Shockwave thingQuote:
Originally Posted by AaronChance
Also getting the PS3 version cause my 360 is dead and don't have the money to replace it atm :(
Then you'd be happy to hear there's a 360 exclusive MP demo right now, and it's actually pretty good.
http://spe.atdmt.com/ds/NMITMUMIMHPU...0x600_V1R2.swf
they somehow made it ugly
But did they make it cheaper, is the question. (probably not?)
Strange choice of vents. Built in Wi-fi, though!
That's just odd. It doesn't seem smaller, it's got a weird angle in the back, and we get 5 extra horsepower from the vents.
What the fuck.
microsoft engineering 8)
It looks like a ricer PC case.
it looks like a cable modem.
coming this fall: kinect compatible games~
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...ame14_ST_N.htm
Worst E3 ever. RIP real gaming.
Kinect is a horrible name and those games look about as bad as I was expecting.
And we thought Natal was a bad name.
I reiterate my statements that Motion Controls need to DIAF.
Joyride is now a Kinect title? That's a shame.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
So, basically, Microsoft is turning the Xbox 360 into a l33t PC. GREAT.
Kind of hard to tell from that pic, but I don't think it looks too bad. It doesn't really matter how it looks as long as it is actually slimmer. does not double as a heater for my room, and is cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
My sentiments exactly. Never cared for motion control and I'm not going to start now. Fuck all the casual gamers and old people who are too retarded to learn to use a damn controller.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
I can't wait for Nick Arcade: The Videogame
but only if they have this guy:
i miss that show :( wish new episodes were made
I'd get that new 360.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1276486451
Oh god Nintendo, what have you done
It's started.
me too, I thought it looked coolQuote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
No, really. Look at this:http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1276487124Quote:
Among games in the works:
•Kinectimals lets you train and play with 20 different virtual cats, including a lion, cheetah and tiger.
•Joyride, a racing game, lets players use their hands to hold an imaginary steering wheel — pull your hands toward you and push back out for an acceleration boost — and their bodies to execute jumps and tricks.
•Kinect Sports has six activities including boxing, bowling, beach volleyball, track and field, soccer and table tennis. To serve a volleyball, you mimic the real motion; in soccer, you can kick the ball or do a header.
•Kinect Adventures includes a river-raft time trial and obstacle course, playable by up to four players. On the raft, playing as a duo, you and a partner must lean one way or another to steer. Jumping helps the raft reach special areas for extra points.
•Dance Central, in development by MTV Games, brings a So You Think You Can Dance experience home.
•Star Wars characters and iconic Disney favorites will be featured in separate new games being developed at Microsoft in conjunction with LucasArts and Disney.
I'm pretty sure this is the worst thing ever.
Yeah, the Holocaust has nothing on Kinect.
You are correct.
Every one of you assholes who bought a Wii have no right to complain.
I did not and will not buy a wii, nor a kinect, nor a move, so I'm going to continue to bitch nonstop about this idiocy.
I'm damn proud I'm not one of those assholes. Although I'll still buy one for $100 as soon as I can
Sure we do. :) On that note, since I own a Wii I see no reason to dive into platforms that seem to be doing more of what that machine does. But, hell, if people enjoy it and are having fun, what the fuck do I care? Go wild. It's not like games that I don't give a damn about existing is anything new.
I think it looks fine. Does it come in white?
Seems my source was spot on..
I wouldn't mind being given a reason to want Kinect. It hasn't happened yet but in theory it's not impossible.
In theory.
James
I actually think Kinect is a clever name, but I still hate everything it stands for and have no desire or plan to buy it. I am glad the slim 360 looks retarded. I didn't need that temptation.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1276521043Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Thats incredible, epmode !
I will say that gif has now been delivered to everyone in my office and we are all loving it.
http://live.twit.tv is showing a Kinect live demo now.