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I actually really liked the way the fox news interview guy put it, it was a hail mary play that didn't work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
I do think she is far worse than Bush.
Edit: That newsweek stuff so far is REALLY good. Pity it is requisited to come after the election. I am just getting to like McCain heh.
Actually, it looks like she jumped the gun on some of the negative strategies without McCain signing off on them. She may have dragged McCain into some places he didn't want to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
But you're right that McCain did agree to pick her, and that was a fatal mistake.
And let us not forget, the best moment of 'sit the fuck down' that came out of this entire campaign.
Death Cackle
In all seriousness, had she not been as brutal as she was in the primary, things would have been a lot tougher for Obama. By the time McCain got to him, he was largely spouting the same things she did and they did not play.
Edit: Holy shit, look at the crowd meter at the end.
The problem is, that it was a Hail Mary pass on 2 and 7 with 8 minutes to go in the 4th and down by 13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
I really want to read a tell-all book that goes through all 3 campains (Clinton v Obama, Obama v McCain). That will be epic, but, reading the bit about the Clinton's in the NW writeup right now, is awesome.
Again, yeah, she should have towed the party line and all that, but she's a Mavrick, don't cha know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
In all seriousness, this is the type of shit McCain should have spoken to her about before selecting her, but I think he wanted the nation, and especially Obama, to hear her selection and think "Oh, snap!". It's clear in hindsight that when someone is now discribing her family as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast" she's near uncontrollable.
You Gone Broke and Sarah Palin: A Bridge Too Far will be scribed on McCain's 2008 Campaign forever now.
When you read about what the Clinton campaign was spending it makes this sound like nothing, by the way. A $100,000 bill to a grocery store?Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
McCain camp is going to throw Palin under the bus in both fair and unfair ways in the coming weeks. I don't really care about her clothes, it's the shit she says that bothers me.
I know, if I spent 1,000 at the store just for me, I'd have enough food to last 2 months. This shit:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
The Clinton campaign blew through cash: fancy hotels like the Bellagio in Las Vegas and the Four Seasons everywhere; thousands of dollars on flowers and valet parking; and one memorable $100,000 grocery bill at a Des Moines supermarket. Hillary never spent a night in a motel in rural Iowa if she could possibly avoid it. She preferred to overnight in the Presidential Suite in the Des Moines Embassy Suites and to fly alone in private jets, without the press or staff.
wtf was she thinking?
I thought the Palin clothes thing was ridiculous. Campaigns spend how many millions on publicity and marketing? It's just a part of those costs. She has to look the part to project the image. I can't believe such a silly little story went on for as many days as it did.
Anybody see Condoleeza today talking about what a great victory this was for America? I guess it's good to see non-partisanship & all but damn if it didn't look like the Secretary of State breaking ranks to stick with the brotherman best move she ever made.
More than that, they weren't even down. But I guess they thought stupid played in Peoria after Dubya and she'd seem folksy, not idiotic.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
I'm sure the guy that got the bill thought it was much less 'part of the cost'.
NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.
A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who made them than they do about Governor Palin."
McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.
Fuck. Where was this Cressbeckler-like charm before yesterday?
+1 McCain.