Election Thread 2008 MAKE SURE YOU VOTE

I watch CNN and Fox, too, I was just using the most liberal example of the media I watch.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

Obama launched his political career in Ayers' living room

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Every fucking time you say bullshit like this you destroy any possible credibility your other comments might have.

This is a complete and utter lie. There's no fucking truth to that bullshit so shut the fuck up.

Even if it were true, why does it matter again?

It only matters in that its a verbatim talking point that undermines any argument Spo is trying to make on the subject.

And didn't McCain try to make Ayers the main crux of his campaign?

Oh, right, THAT failed campaign.

For that matter, the associations with Tony Rezco and Reverend Wright didn't really matter, either. How did Obama handle things like this? Oh yes:




And to sum up the Biden/Palin bias thing:

Biden = 1 stupid thing / 20 interviews
Palen = 1 stupid thing / .20 interviews

And you can't argue it's because no-one's interviewing her (she restricted it a lot) or that it's because of the liberal media elite (not even FOX NEWS can make her look smart).

LOL @ blaming the "liberal media." She sure doesn't seem to feel that way now, as she's given more interviews in the last week than she did during the entire campaign. Hell, she even invited them into her home and COOKED FOR THEM.

The whole bias thing is a sad excuse to cover how completely unprepared Palin was to be VP. She's as insincere as she is stupid if she thinks people - and the press - are going to forget that by 2012.

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Originally Posted by Melf

It only matters in that its a verbatim talking point that undermines any argument Spo is trying to make on the subject.

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It's true that it's a talking point (I was saying it here before McCain started using it as a talking point). It's also a true statement. Ayers suggested that Obama run for office, and got him started by holding a fundraiser in his living room to introduce Obama to Chicago's power brokers. That's a fact. I never said I thought Obama agreed with Ayers' views (I don't), but rather that he used Ayers to launch his career.

What's wrong with Ayers again?

And how is Ayers relevant to the Obama of the present again?

I took a lot of shit for defending Palin on the "Is Africa a country?" allegation, particularly when Martin Eisenstadt was brought into the picture:

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Originally Posted by MVS

By now you’ve all heard the Fox News report last week that “unnamed” former McCain advisers leaked that Sarah Palin was confused about whether Africa was a continent, and which countries were in NAFTA. I was perfectly happy staying under the radar as an anonymous source for Fox News‘ Carl Cameron, but now that Palin has accused her accusers of being “unprofessional…jerks…cowards… taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news” and begun to cast doubt on the Fox News report, maybe she’s right to a certain extent. For those of us on the McCain campaign who thought that she acted like a rogue diva and lost John the election, maybe we DO have a responsibility to come out in public. But Sarah… careful what you ask for: some of us may have more to reveal.

So yes, to be clear, last week I was the one who leaked those things to a producer at Fox News who works with Cameron. Carl and his producers are good guys, and I don’t want them to have to worry about protecting their sources (and going through the wringer ala Judith Miller or Matt Cooper) on something like this.

As you know, I was one of the foreign policy advisers on the McCain campaign who worked with Randy Scheunemann to help prep Sarah on her debate with Joe Biden. Did we outright give her a geography quiz when we started the prep? No, of course not. But yes, in the context of the prep, it slowly became apparent that her grasp of basic geo-political knowledge had major gaps. Could she have passed a multiple choice test about South Africa or NAFTA. Probably. But it was clear that she simply didn’t have the ease of knowledge that we come to expect from a major party political candidate. Other slights came up, too: Not knowing the difference between Hezbollah and Hamas. Or the difference between the Shiites and Suni. Or when it came to international terrorist organizations, knowing that the IRA was in Northern Ireland, and ETA in Spain.

The real thing we had to constantly remind her was to never, ever compare herself in any way to Hillary Clinton, as she had at her announcement speech. We had it on good authority that Biden was prepping to unleash the inevitable line, “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine. And Sarah, you’re no Hillary Clinton.” Alas, Biden would have been right.

http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/...d-proud-of-it/

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

I'm sure Squall doesn't care.

Edit: Or can't read, since he thinks you're quoting yourself.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Trying to discredit another source?

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Originally Posted by squall_vb

Not at all. I would never dream of tarnishing the fabled reputation of Martin Eisenstadt.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

The comments for this are a fucking scream. Look at this defense:


Yes, I applaud you, Mrs. Palin, for having the balls to stand up for ignorance!

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

lol

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Originally Posted by bbobb

QFT

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But lo and behold:

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MSNBC Retracts False Palin Story; Others Duped

NEW YORK -- MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an adviser to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, the network said Wednesday.

David Shuster, an anchor for the cable news network, said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a FOX News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent.

Eisenstadt identifies himself on a blog as a senior fellow at the Harding Institute for Freedom and Democracy. Yet neither he nor the institute exist; each is part of a hoax dreamed up by a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish, the New York Times reported Wednesday.

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Well, well, well...