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Obama bought the guns and he's going to shoot YOU. SAQUAL_VB
I think most people buying them are probably existing gun nuts, stocking up on assault rifles and other toys they figure will be the first to go.
Full automatics are already illegal almost everywhere anyway, so I don't think that's an issue.
Obama had his arms replaced with full automatics, he will shoot you while he's speaking.
That was Final Fantasy VII. Put the bottle down, sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
questionable, if we assume the government has the right to draft a military and require males to register for selective service even in peacetime. and clearly it can condition federal student aid on service.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I think Obama needs to make every person work in fast food for several years. See, he won't let them know that they can leave, they have to figure it out themselves.
Kind makes you wonder... what if that were true, and people strived to make fast food into its greatest potential :o
What, indeed is the greatest fast food? I'd say Chick fil A, but it really varies from restaurant to restaurant. Some Chick fil A's have the greatest chicken sandwiches God has witnessed, but some just serve sandwiches that don't even rival McDonald's southern-style chicken sandwich, which should at best be a pale imitator that gives you a slight case of the runs.
Perhaps Dairy Queen, for ice cream alone, is what fast food should strive for.
Remember, though, and always remember, fast food isn't about making things better, it's about following the cards. Fast food will never progress beyond the most perfect Chick fil A sandwich ever created, and no one who hasn't created that sandwich knows how to create it.
West coast says "GTFO"Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
http://partners.visitrenotahoe.com/a...in_and_out.jpg
West coast sucks unless you don't know any better.
At least when she writes the 666 on her forehead she knows to reverse it, unlike stupid B girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Qdoba. End of discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
It's like Pastor Manning and Nancy Pelosi fucked two decades back, and now we're witnessing the fruit of that unholy union.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Chipotle always wins, with a respectable runner-up nod going to Chick-fil-a.
Qdoba>Chipotle. You die.
What the fuck is a Qdoba? Sounds communist.
It's Mexican. Good Mexican. Tastes like delicious. Though they don't have the mole burrito anymore which was the best thing ever, but I still love them.
This voluntarily cult of personality shit really needs to come to an end. It's starting to get creepy.
Give it til about the time Obama bombs Pakistan.
NORTHwest coast says "GTFO" (and don't forget your umbrella)Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
http://assets.goodmagazine.com/uploa...urgertime1.jpg
In-N-Out isn't in Oregon or Washington, anyway.
Quite honestly, though, the best burger I've ever had was a Whataburger in Texas in 2003. I had another one recently and it wasn't as good.
Fixed to reflect the new home of burgers and bigotry.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Oregon's still gay-friendly (for now) I actually have an uncle in my family that got married here during that window and even though GM isn't happening here anymore, the marriages are still legally recognized.
Get outta here with that "Cali = the whole West Coast" nonsense
Screw Cali. Look at me with my big stupid movies and entertainment malls
*shakes fist* go read a book you stupid kids
Qdoba sucks, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
You sucks!
We are talking about fast food here. Qdoba's the only place I know that really makes everything fresh, fries their own hard shells and chips, and has habenera salsa. Thus, they win.
I like Qdoba's lime-tasting chips.
This can be reproduced by asking for a lime at another restaurant.
I've never been even remotely satisfied with any burrito I've gotten at Qdoba or Baja Fresh. They are both terrible. And I've been to both multiple times, trying to like it.
Chiptole was almost acceptable the one time I went there. Luckily I can ride 5 minutes to an authentic place any time I want but that doesn't go for most of you poor saps.
Maybe it varies from location to location.
New Brunswick is an overwhelmingly Mexican city (outside of the Rutgers campus), and there are authentic places all over, but Qdoba is fast and cheap, and actually steals a good bit of patronage from the real places.
WHIIIIIIIIITE PEOPLE! :curse:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
In New Brunswick? Where? They don't even let white people work in stores here, because most of the clientele speak spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
qdoba is delicious. i concur that i miss the mole sauce.
This threw me a bit at first. ... hahah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Oh yeah, I thought the same thing when I learned about your New Brunswick for the first time.
Whataburger is fucking trash. Shit ass garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by TODE
In and Out Burger is insanely overrated.
In and Out Burger is ridiculously cheap, though. I gotta give it that. But I'd rather just spend the extra $3 and get a real burger.
Fuck shit. Fuck shit shit shit shit cunt. Fuck. Cunt whore fuck shit ass. Ass bitch shit dick. Dick piss shit cunt whore labia. Ass shit dick damn god dammit bitch fuck.
Oh, I think I know that gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Finch
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1226193409Quote:
Originally Posted by Nirvana
Bonus:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1226193409
If the movie is accurate to the posters, holy shit.
Sorry for being late to party, but I just finished reading that monstrous Newsweek article. My favourite parts by far:
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Originally Posted by Newsweek
Squall quoted this before but he cut out the funny bit at the end.Quote:
But Cindy (McCain) never did. At a private gathering in Aspen, Colo., in the summer of 2007, a friend asked Cindy whether she would stab Rove in the back if he walked by. "No," she answered, "I'd stab him in the front."
I absolutely enjoyed how ridiculous Obama was throughout the whole process, breaking into giggles during debate prep and making jokes about dilithium crystals while his wife rolled her eyes.Quote:
At the convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the boys'-club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Schmidt and Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute, Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd. "I'll be just a minute," she said. Salter tried to strike up a conversation. He knew that Todd was half native Alaskan and a championship snow-machine racer.
"So what's the difference between a snowmobile and a snow machine, anyway?" Salter asked. "They're the same thing," Todd replied. "Right, so why not call it a snowmobile?" Salter joshed. "Because it's a snow machine," came the reply.
Later, Schmidt and Salter went outside so that Salter could have a cigarette. "So how about the Eskimo? Is he on the level?" Schmidt asked. Salter just shrugged and took another drag.
(I'm drinking this all in until the press starts to tear him apart.)
No kidding, holy shit. Those posters make me giggle in giddy anticipation.
Someone already told that joke.
Is John McCain dead in that picture? Is his flesh rotting?
His cheek burst.
i heard that his cheek juice turns people into zombies. even him.
It really happened once!
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1226204019Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
2012
Though he really didn't say "Rex" in Predator. Kind of throws it off.
Buncha slack jawed faggots in this crew.
Just like me.
... wait.
Okay, for anybody who was saying the Republicans weren't running a racially charged campaign (much of this is sourced from the Newsweek article, if you've already read that):
Link
This part is classic:Quote:
Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death threats against Barack Obama
Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.
The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.
The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.
Dubyaesque. Onionesque. One of the two.Quote:
Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.
That claim is part of a campaign of targeted leaks designed to torpedo her ambitions, with claims that she did not know that Africa was a continent rather than a country.
In a bid to salvage her reputation Mrs Palin came out firing in an interview with CNN, dismissing the anonymous leakers in unpresidential language as "jerks"
Shit, I hear she didn't know what country Africa was. She is sooooo dumb.
Yeah, that stuff was mentioned in that newsweek article. It's a completely fair accusation. It's not just the information you use (though much of that was misleading, distorted, or untrue) it's how you present it. If you use it to attack his judgment of character, that's one thing, but she was really trying to attack his patriotism, and provoke people into believing he was somehow one of the people we're fighting. That's the line she crossed.
I think it was the way she was trying to paint him as some kind of foreign anti-US radical. "He doesn't think like us, like Americans do. He's not one of us." etc. There was this whole subtext they were tapping into about him being a Black Panther arab muslim communist terrorist with a grudge against hard workin' white folks who he thought were trying to keep him down, and once he was president he and his baby mama were going to have their revenge on them. It was clear they knew the codewords to push all those buttons without having to come out and say it (or just have their proxies do it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
McCain himself seems to be above that, but he seems to have been in the passenger seat for so much of the way his campaign was run.
If the man couldn't take the reigns in his own critically-batshit campaign, that says all that you need to know about how his presidency would have gone.
It means he wanted to win? I didn't get a much better opinion of obama reading through the newsweek articles as far as campain directions is concerened.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
He knows as much about winning campaigns as he does winning wars, I see. All McCain accomplished post-Palin was polarizing the country and alienating the center.
By now you’ve all heard the Fox News report last week that “unnamed” former McCain advisers leaked that Sarah Palin was confused about whether Africa was a continent, and which countries were in NAFTA. I was perfectly happy staying under the radar as an anonymous source for Fox News‘ Carl Cameron, but now that Palin has accused her accusers of being “unprofessional…jerks…cowards… taking things out of context, and then tried to spread something on national news” and begun to cast doubt on the Fox News report, maybe she’s right to a certain extent. For those of us on the McCain campaign who thought that she acted like a rogue diva and lost John the election, maybe we DO have a responsibility to come out in public. But Sarah… careful what you ask for: some of us may have more to reveal.Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_vb
So yes, to be clear, last week I was the one who leaked those things to a producer at Fox News who works with Cameron. Carl and his producers are good guys, and I don’t want them to have to worry about protecting their sources (and going through the wringer ala Judith Miller or Matt Cooper) on something like this.
As you know, I was one of the foreign policy advisers on the McCain campaign who worked with Randy Scheunemann to help prep Sarah on her debate with Joe Biden. Did we outright give her a geography quiz when we started the prep? No, of course not. But yes, in the context of the prep, it slowly became apparent that her grasp of basic geo-political knowledge had major gaps. Could she have passed a multiple choice test about South Africa or NAFTA. Probably. But it was clear that she simply didn’t have the ease of knowledge that we come to expect from a major party political candidate. Other slights came up, too: Not knowing the difference between Hezbollah and Hamas. Or the difference between the Shiites and Suni. Or when it came to international terrorist organizations, knowing that the IRA was in Northern Ireland, and ETA in Spain.
The real thing we had to constantly remind her was to never, ever compare herself in any way to Hillary Clinton, as she had at her announcement speech. We had it on good authority that Biden was prepping to unleash the inevitable line, “I know Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is a friend of mine. And Sarah, you’re no Hillary Clinton.” Alas, Biden would have been right.
http://www.eisenstadtgroup.com/2008/...d-proud-of-it/
So all this time you've secretly been working on the McCain campaign?
I'm sure Squall doesn't care.
Edit: Or can't read, since he thinks you're quoting yourself.
Well, if he's quoting another source, quote blocks help in making that distinction. The link at the end could mean a lot of things. The URL sounds communist anyways.
Trying to discredit another source?
Not at all. I would never dream of tarnishing the fabled reputation of Martin Eisenstadt.
The comments for this are a fucking scream. Look at this defense:Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Yes, I applaud you, Mrs. Palin, for having the balls to stand up for ignorance!Quote:
Maybe you should point the finger at the campaign advisers for the loss. Seems as though Sarah Palin has the fortitude to expose the outdated and lackluster advice by McCain’s advisers and to say that she was not aware Africa was a continent only shows your sophomoric attempt to dispell the inept advice you and your fellow advisers provided. I was a strong supporter of John McCain but you can tell that his campaign only attempted to sustain and not innovate his followers and win fellow supporters. Sarah Palin did that for the campaign and you can see that her attempt to provide an injection of energy was dispelled. Do you really feel that threatened by her? Way to go Sarah!!
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by squall_vb
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
McCain's speechwriter was the saving grace of his campain, but as a whole, he seemed to be the best person in the entire article.
Edit: And Five Guys is the best fast food place.
To be fair, I thought MVS was speaking for himself too, originally. But it seems to be a habit of MVS posts that the article is posted directly as a post with a link later. I prefer quotes, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by squall_vb
Obama had David Axelrod, $700 million, and every circumstance in his favor. McCain had Steve Schmidt and the Bush legacy around his neck. That McCain managed to snag 57 million votes is amazing, all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
You can thank old white folks who still consider race an issue for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Schmidt didn't seem bad per se, but he was part of the Bush machine, a much wiser decision would not have been to put someone like that in charge of his campain.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Obama also had Obama, would actually led his campaign. Sadly for McCain he had McCain, who did whatever his advisers told him, even when it didn't make any sense, like not looking at Obama during the first debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
There are like 56 million registered republcians, man. McCain got party loyalists, and like no one else. Even the right leaning independents I know wrote in Ron Paul or broke for Barr. The Republicans have been very, very powerful in this country since Nixon, really, and they've held what? 7 of the last 10 elections or something? McCain did as badly as anyone could reasonably have expected he could have. Even Clinton wouldn't have been elected if not for Perot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Trust the USSS on this. Professional motherfuckers.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Palin = lose.
El. Oh. Fucking. El.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
That McCain got 46% of the vote says more about America than it does about Cain's "skillz".
You can't lump 2008 in with the last ten elections. This was the worst climate for a Republican since 1932. No Republican could have beaten Obama this year, not with all that money, the perfection of Howard Dean's machine, the media in love with Obama, and the entire election turned into a referendum on whether or not America is still a racist country. McCain could have made it closer if he didn't sit on his hands when Lehman went down, but he wasn't going to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
You're being biased and unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronChance
Not that it matters, but your reasoning is fallicious.:rolleyes:
I love how you conveniently neglect to mention the war started by Republicans that the US people hate, oh and the US economy completely collapsing under their watch at all, and it definitely had nothing at all to do with a horribly run campaign on McCain's part.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
No, I'm sure that it was the referendum on whether or not America is still a racist country that is the reason McCain lost.
Goddamn you're so completely full of shit.
Also, I feel that it's time I point out that this "media LOVED Barack" thing is getting a bit obnoxious. The media loved McCain as well untill he and his campaign fucking went and cut them off.
McCain not getting the loads of media attention he got is his own goddamn fault and the newsweek article highlights that. His campaign brought in this retarded concept of "THE MEDIA IS OUT TO GET US ALL WITH THEIR GOTCHA REPORTING" that is out of control with republicans. The US media is REALLY easy to play. If you willingly give them access and talk to them they say mostly positive things about you. Sure bad things will come up sometimes (even Barack got hit with the media frenzy over Wright) but in general they will be enamored with you and write more and positively about you IF you give them access. The media LOVED the old Straight Talk express McCain. If he had given them that again he would have gotten tons of positive press. But no, he listened to the idiots he hired to run his campaign and cut the media off as soon as they could find the best example they could use to get him to.
Money, Howard Dean, media, and racism had little to do with McCain losing this election. It was his own goddamn fault for selling his soul and running such a shitty campaign.
And you haven't read the newsweek article, so kindly STFU untill you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by nocturne
McCain had an uphill battle, but he could have won. He lead in the polls for a while, relatively late in the campaign. I'm not saying the deck wasn't stacked against him, and indeed the party, but he made some very real mistakes that might have cost him the votes he needed to put him over.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
That said, he probably couldn't have lost any bigger than he did in the end. I mean no Democrat has cracked 51% of the popular vote since like LBJ, and I think Obama's like the third democrat in out history to do it at all. About 40% of this country will vote Republican if they're running a scarecrow. Their base is much more loyal than dems.
I mean the media loves a star, in the sense that talking about him is good for ratings, but let's be perfectly honest, here, they tore the fuck into him and ran with every sensational smear against him throughout the entire campaign. They devoted 3 weeks to playing clips of Rev. Wright, they ran with every dumbfuck Joe the Plumber and Terrorist Fist Bump talking point the media dished out.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
I'm not going to sit here and let Spo slide on this like the media gave Obama a free pass. It's true they spend more time talking about Obama than McCain. McCain is a dullard, and he bores the audience. But the media machine's only bias is toward their bank accounts.
The voters don't hate the war, they hate losing the war and hearing about dead U.S. soldiers constantly. The polls consistently showed that voters favored McCain over Obama on national security and the war. If the war was really on the minds of the voters, McCain would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Of course the economy killed McCain, because lots of people perceive the economic collapse to be Bush's fault. The realty of the situation is that members of Congress from both parties were equally responsible for the economic collapse. McCain was not one of those people; he called for more regulation in 2003, 2005, and 2006 (as did Bush) and they were ignored by Congress. Bill Clinton himself blamed congressional democrats for the lack of regulation.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
You're getting the timeline wrong (intentionally). McCain didn't start cutting off the media until it became abundantly clear that they were giving him unfair coverage (the nonsense NYT lobbyist "affair" article comes to mind). You're too unreasonable to ever concede that the media generally favored Obama (despite mountains of evidence proving you wrong), so it's really not worth talking about. In your mind the race was McCain's to lose, which shows an alarming disconnect from reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Obviously there wasn't a giant media conspiracy against McCain. Most journalists are liberals with white guilt, and that was clear in how much more negative they were about McCain than Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Hrrrrmmm that's funny, because historically McCain has been a massive proponent of deregulation, as is the ENTIRE republican party.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Aside from that NYT article there are NOT mountains of evidence that the media was massively negative to McCain prior to that (also, read the newsweek article, it turns out there MIGHT have been a grain of truth in that article) I don't argue that the media favored Obama, but it's largely McCain's own goddamn fault they did. No shit Obama was getting more coverage during the primaries, since the republican primaries ended WAY before the democratic one. It's been quite obvious for a long time that you're the one with an alarming disconnect from reality and you're further proving it with this.Quote:
You're getting the timeline wrong (intentionally). McCain didn't start cutting off the media until it became abundantly clear that they were giving him unfair coverage (the nonsense NYT lobbyist "affair" article comes to mind). You're too unreasonable to ever concede that the media generally favored Obama (despite mountains of evidence proving you wrong), so it's really not worth talking about. In your mind the race was McCain's to lose, which shows an alarming disconnect from reality.
And most editors are republican's who loved McCain. What's your point?Quote:
Obviously there wasn't a giant media conspiracy against McCain. Most journalists are liberals with white guilt, and that was clear in how much more negative they were about McCain than Obama.
mccain ran a terrible campaign and would have been a bad president. he would have let the inmates run the asylum. my qualms with obama's policy goals aside, the man has shown he can run a tight ship.
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Originally Posted by bbobb
I hope there's a copy of Newsweek on the stands this week, I wanna keep this election article for posterity.
Speaking of which, we've had THIS on our newsstand at work for the past month. I don't think we've sold any, lol. There's a huge typo on the cover as they have misspelled "hysterical".
Honestly, dude, can you name one real negative scandal about John McCain the media ran with (not Sarah Palin).Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I mean even John McCain spent more time talking about Obama than himself. But I don't remember people really trashing him in any big way at all during this campaign. Johnny Mac decided early on to make this campaign all about Obama, and so it was.
Yeah, even back in 2000 the media didn't run all the crap Bush's surrogates came up with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
And like I said earlier, if you identify yourself as anti-Your Opponent, Your Opponent's probably gonna beat you.
election maps that better reflect the data
I like seeing the red ones get squeezed.
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Originally Posted by bbobb
I have read it, stupid fuck.:bang:
You're blowing hot air out of your ass. What the hell are you trying to prove?
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen...BUSH-large.jpg
I'm trying to prove that Laura Bush is a slight color tweak away from being the goddamn Joker.
McCain's a known quantity; he didn't have any "scandals" come to light, but the overall coverage of him was far more negative than the coverage of Obama. PEW recently did a study proving it. Now we've got Chris Matthews (who spent the past eight years "doing his patriotic duty" by attacking Bush) saying "My job as a journalist is to make the Obama presidency a success" on national television.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Holy shit, you're right...Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
chris matthews is not a journalist any more than sean hannity is
he's a pundit
and you get this same shit from pundits on both sides...under the fox news regime dissent was unpatriotic and anti-american...and now these guys are styling themselves the "loyal opposition"
also, i can't understand how an unbiased media is supposed to run equal numbers of good and bad stories about the campaigns when even a mccain supporter will admit than obama ran a much better campaign. expecting the same ratio of good and bad stories sounds a lot like the fairness doctrine conservative pundits are getting all steamed up about.
Today's SpoDigest:
* Nobody could have POSSIBLY won against a black democrat with an arab name and a muslim father. McCain's campaign was a great success just by coming that close! What an awesome job! What a miracle! What a campaign!
* The left wing media was totally out to get him. That's why he lost. If they weren't so biased they wouldn't have let Sarah Palin hang herself struggling to answer simple straightforward questions.
* The economic collapse was the democrats' fault. Bush and McCain would have stopped it all, if only they could have! Oh, the tragedy of their sisyphian struggle against the left wing machine! If only they'd been in some kind of position of power.
* War, Bush, economy, those are the reasons McCain lost. Nobody actually liked Obama, come on. Don't be silly.