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Match of the Millenium. Alot of this has to do with the ability to take it anywhere. This game alone made the 12th grade the best year of school ever. Funny thing, I must have played it every day at lunch (I'd play as Terry and tag out with a friend who played Ken), and just 2 days before graduation a teacher finally noticed that I was playing it. Didn't take my Neo Geo Pocket away though:)
Will somebody please tell me what's so great about Mark of the Wolves. Our resident Neo Geo fans in the Tavern were talking the game up, so when I saw it at GameStop for Dreamcast, I picked it up. My goodness, the game is so simple. It's very straight-forward, and I honestly see nothing that it does better than any Capcom game. Seriously, somebody let me know if I'm missing something, because I see nothing fantastic about it.
Third Strike ain't no gem, either. I suppose I could see how you could have fun with it, what with the innovative parry system and all, but it's the least popular Street Fighter game in arcades these days, and I think that says something (less popular than even Super Turbo). The artwork is fantastic, yes, but the game boils down to very little. I suppose it's a purist's dream, but it's all too boring and slow for me.
Capcom vs. SNK 2 is a pretty damned good game. The wide cast of characters lets you be plenty picky when you're choosing who you want to play as. There's a pretty decent difference in styles between characters, as well - choose Hibiki and just stand still while your opponent tries to break your defense, or choose Blanka and rush that shit down. The many grooves are a good idea, though I think sticking to just three would have made it a lot more newb-friendly. This is a very good contender. I'd probably say my second favorite fighter of all.
But the ultimate fighting game has barely even been mentioned here... And that's disappointing.
Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is undoubtedly the best fighting game ever made. Now I can understand getting frustrated with the game easily... It's a VERY different game than your typical fighter, and if you wanted to re-classify it entirely, I wouldn't object. It's much more strategic than any other fighting game, much more complex, and ultimately more fun for those that get into it.
if going strictly for competition, i'm gonna have to go with Marvel vs Capcom 2... sure, it has tons of balancing problems... but in the end, it's just damned fun...
the assists kind of make it into a strategy game... absolutely insane
too bad the AI is so horribly bad even on the highest setting, that it's barely any fun without someone to play against
... i also really like CvS2, Third Strike, KoF:98, Garou, MotM, and Last Blade 2,
That game is broken as shit, has absurd infinite combos, and relies too heavily on assists, and Cable's Hyper Viper Beam.Quote:
Originally posted by MarkRyan
Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is undoubtedly the best fighting game ever made.
SFIII Third strike is by far my personal favorite.
Although Mortal Kombat II holds a special place in my heart. Ahh... nostalgia.
Garou: Mark of the Wolves. I like it because it's nearly as deep as SF:3rd Strike, but more accessible and has better character balance. It's the kind of game you can pick apart, and still play with your freinds.
Marvel vs Capcom 2 is a mess of a fighting game. There's lots of reasons why, but the biggest ones would be that its a button masher in the truest sense of the word and some of the non-Marvel characters are just mangled. Bulleta doesn't even play like Bulleta. It's sad that SNK pulled off a much better version of Bulleta than Capcom themselves did in MvC2. Same deal with Sakura, Felicia, and most of the Capcom side.
It's a fun game, but does fun equal best? Because damn is it broken. And I've played enough to unlock all the characters and about half the colors so I don't say this from lack of experience.
SNK vs Capcom makes it its bitch without trying. Only thing MvC2 has over it is a larger character roster.
My favorite (in nor particulary order):
Street fighter IIIrd strike (dc)
King of fighters 94/95/96/98 (neogeo)
Samurai shodown 1/2 (neogeo)
Street fighter zero 2 (saturn)
Yuyu akusho (megadrive)
Pft, sounds pretty basic to me. I still don't get it.Quote:
Originally posted by Frogacuda
Garou: Mark of the Wolves. I like it because it's nearly as deep as SF:3rd Strike, but more accessible and has better character balance. It's the kind of game you can pick apart, and still play with your freinds.
Broken as shit? Okay, that's very true. There are many characters that have abilities that Capcom just didn't forsee. Cable's got the instant Hyper Viper Beam. Sentinel has Unfly mode. Sprial's got, well... Tons of swords. If only one of these characters had their brokeness, the game would be dull. But guess what? About one third of the cast has some brokeness you can use to your advantage... And one third of the cast of 56 is still more than most fighting games. Throw in the team aspects, and the balancing issues only matter if you happen to like Capcom characters other than Ken, Cammy, Commando and Strider, Tron, or Sakura. Capcom characters are pretty DOA unless they're assists - guess what, the game's still the best out there. The balance among the top tier characters is quite impressive. If anyone thinks that the brokeness is what ruins Marvel 2, they're completely wrong. It's what makes the game.Quote:
Originally posted by 88mph
That game is broken as shit, has absurd infinite combos, and relies too heavily on assists, and Cable's Hyper Viper Beam.
That's a very common misconception. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 is probably the game you'll LEAST want to button mash in if you ever want to win. Seasoned players can make quick work of any button masher. Button mashing will leave your assists open to get killed, and will leave you plenty open for getting comboed to death (MAGNUSSS!!!). Ask anyone that plays Street Fighter competitively - button mashing will get you much further in Street Fighter 3 than it will in MvC2.Quote:
Originally posted by Ammadeau
There's lots of reasons why, but the biggest ones would be that its a button masher in the truest sense of the word...
Best 2D fighter ever? Depends on what constitutes the term "best". Here is my breakdown.
If "best" means FUN above all else: MVC2
If "best" means VARIETY above all else: CVS2
If "best" means APPEARANCE above all else: GGX
If "best" means DEPTH above all else: SFIII 3rd Strike
Personally, as a fighting game worshipper for over 10 years now (!), I would say that Third Strike is the BEST. The engine is extremely tight and precise. It requires a vast amount of technical experience with the engine to come anywhere near mastering it.
However, 3rd Strike is not my FAVORITE. That honor goes to CVS2, mainly for the chance to throw down with both SF and KOF gangs together. Pure joy.
Best ever 2D fighter? Judging from what I've witnessed from my local arcade scene over the years, I'd say good old Street Fighter II Turbo takes the cake. I still haven't seen such heated competition among extremely skilled players like those who played SFIITurbo to this day. Fighting games got a lot fancier nowadays, but back then the one with the "real" skills mattered most... :D