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Your really bringing up this argument in a thread about a specific topic?Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Because if we are actually gonna go there, referencing the suffering of others and legitimizing it as a way to tell others to stop whining, make no mistake that the next time I see you complain about your pile of shame, I'm gonna tell you to remember the starving, aids infected Africans who die in the thousands every day.
I am not the one who sympathize all the blue collar workers being taking advantage of. I don't really see your point, but go ahead and do what you want to do. I can't stop your stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
No but your the one essentially saying, no one should complain, or be outraged about it, because kids in third world countries are making sneakers for $.14 an hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
I'm trying to understand how that makes a guy getting laid off from a job after 20 years of service, simply because he now makes too much, any less if an outrage (not in comparision, but on its own)?
But by all means continue not making any sense, if its what you want to do with yourself. I can't stop your stupidity.
Why wouldn't you sympathize those workers? They're our American bretheren and should be helped when they need it. If you feel so strongly about helping those in China without jobs before helping your own, then please go over there and do so.
The people getting fucked in China or anywhere else are every bit as much "my own."Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Not when you live in the US. I never understood people keeping their ties to their previous nations once here. That's why we have so many problems as a people. The "-American" part added to the end of your nationality is the stupidest shit I've witnessed in my 23 years on this earth. You're American now, worry about American problems first before worrying about problems in other countries.
Either that or go live there so your worrying can be beneficial and you'll actually get off your ass to do something about it.
"People" comes before "American" as far as I'm concerned. American, Chinese, Babylonian, or whatever the fuck doesn't mean shit to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
So leaching off people to support yourself (Like I said unless you work at a company for a long period of time, Unemployment is not money you paid, unless someone is going to eventually come in here and prove that wrong and show the rate at which you are paying goes to Unemployment) comes first though.
So you're going to focus on another group of people before we focus on ourselves? At what point will we then break when we're so focused on what outside countries are doing that we don't notice the collapse in our own society?
Thats both fine and logical. So wouldn't the people who you can make a difference in their misery, come before the people who you couldn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
Realistically I'm talking about. If you could do something to save someones job, would you not do it because he wouldn't be as worse off as the starving children of Africa, or would you admit to yourself, short of dedicating your life to fundraising, and working in international programs, that you can't really do much but be outraged about the starving children of Africa, and help save the guys job?
I'm not seeing the implications here that tell me I can't worry about the workers (at all) in America because there are things that are bad in other places.
You are simply not liberal enough. It's like when gas prices started skyrocketing here. Everyone was "If you lived in {blank} you'd be paying four times that." Well, fuck that. I don't live in {blank}. I live in the USA where I should be paying $1.50 a gallon tops.
I fail to see how the two aren't directly related. It's not like American jobs go overseas because raw material is cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Every over the table paycheck I've ever gotten had unemployment funds withheld, and in NC, that is the money your unemployment check is drawn from (matched by your former employer.) Once it is depleted, so is your unemployment, barring circumstances like medical disability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
I also find it disturbing that you are spouting off about this, while not saying shit about companies having to be accountable for firing the people who dedicate their lives to working for them.
They do, I would, and I totally agree. How does any of what I said contradict any of this?Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
You mean when I said a company that fires a long standing employee should be bled for all they're worth?Quote:
I also find it disturbing that you are spouting off about this, while not saying shit about companies having to be accountable for firing the people who dedicate their lives to working for them.
yeah and like I asked, from what I've read the total amount you pay for this unemployment is $56 a year. That's jack shit.Quote:
Every over the table paycheck I've ever gotten had unemployment funds withheld, and in NC, that is the money your unemployment check is drawn from (matched by your former employer.) Once it is depleted, so is your unemployment, barring circumstances like medical disability.
Looking at my paychek I'm losing (About) .08% of my money to Unemployment insurance. That's it. So what other magical number is going into that Unemployment that I should know about.
awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
Worst idea ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
So you want to force those who collect unemployment to join the military? In other words, you would flood our all-volunteer force with society's least desirable at a time when morale is already shaky at best? No. Just... no.
Best answer ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
When forced to choose between getting a job and compulsory residence in Louisiana, the former always wins. I'm speaking from experience. It takes a special type of unwashed asshole to live in that place by your own free will.
I always wondered where the anti-American resentment originates in these people. I mean, it has to start somewhere, right? It boggles my mind. Try speaking the Chinese national anthem in Beijing. Try burning, spitting, or cumming on the North Korean flag in Pyongyang. Try being rewarded for living a shiftless life of scratching your balls in Riyadh. It's just not going to happen.Quote:
I love how so many lazy fucks hate America, not even realizing they couldn't life this life anywhere else in the world.
People hating the very government that rewards their meaningless, lazy existence... how uniquely American.
I don't know, but I've been told that eskimo pussy is mighty cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
I have quite a few friends who are currently collecting or have collected unemployment, some legit, some non-legit. I am ambivalent towards this issue.
I've never collected unemployment in my life but if I did, I'd try to combo it with some cash paying side job to maintain the ghetto fab lifestyle because $800/mo or whatever the fuck it is is hardly enough for a grown adult to live on. That's what, only two half ounces of green and two eight balls a month? How do you buy your food, pay utilities, etc., then?
I do what I do because I'm lazy. My goal is to stop working as soon as possible in life, or rather I should say "stop having to work" because I'll always be working in some capacity. I can't wait to be (voluntarily) unemployed in that regard.
HAY THAT WAS MY JOKE
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Originally Posted by wEEman33
mind = blown
In what people exactly, the unemployed?Quote:
I always wondered where the anti-American resentment originates in these people. I mean, it has to start somewhere, right? It boggles my mind. Try speaking the Chinese national anthem in Beijing. Try burning, spitting, or cumming on the North Korean flag in Pyongyang. Try being rewarded for living a shiftless life of scratching your balls in Riyadh. It's just not going to happen.
People hating the very government that rewards their meaningless, lazy existence... how uniquely American.
Clarify please.
"The unemployed" as a general population? Of course not, you silly goose. A great many people who draw unemployment funds are down-on-their-luck types who genuinely want to turn things around. Many are even ashamed to be in their current situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
I was referring to a subclass of that group, originally referenced by Biff, that leaches off the system, all the while showing nothing but absolute contempt for said system. Such people exist (in debatable quantities, but they do exist), and I find them to be nothing short of vile. Of course, there are no consequences for biting the hand that feeds you in this case, so I guess it's to be expected.
So none of these "It's just getting back the money you paid" people have yet to present any form of evidence backing the idea that they're not sucking the tit of another in order to survive for up to 6 months with the exception of long periods of time working at a company. I mean that's pretty much all it will take to change my mind about abusing unemployment because if it's your money originally, if you paid it specifically for unemployment then hey, you do deserve all of it when you go on unemployment.
I find it absolutely hilarious that I own a business, pay unemployment insurance on myself (because the law requires it), and yet can't collect unemployment even if my business goes under.
If that's not the government in a nutshell, then I don't know what is.
lol, now that's retarded.
Owning your own business is great and all, but I agree, alot of the BS tax stuff is just stupid. But then again, you can buy yourself a Ferrari and write it off as a delivery truck, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
Yeah, right.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
why didn't I think of that before?
Hire me, lay me off, and we'll split it.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
Why would you want a Ferrari on Long Island?
To deliver BEER srs bsns
All the beer would get warm sitting in traffic.
Are you implying that Haoh delivers warm beer?
I'm implying that driving in Long Island sucks twelve cocks.
Update: this is not always the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
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Originally Posted by haohmaru
You ready to do this yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
how exactly did you come to bump this?
Were you fucking with socks on and thought to yourself "man, when I get done with this, I better go update the ole chaps in TNLerton about the state of my fucking with no socks. Wouldn't want to be a liar."
The "carded posts" thread, but I like your explanation better.
lol at the blue collar workers being oppressed. I'm a blue collar worker and I shouldn't be. Most people in this country have the natural intelligence to understand nearly anything in the modern world but they don't. Shit can be hard, but most of the people in America create their own destiny.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
My name is humpty.
Pronounced with an umpty.
Yo ladies, oh how I like to hump thee.
when I was laid off I made the best of it . While on unemployment I freelanced (video) and got an old band back together to rock a few shows and record an album. It was probably one of the most enjoyable parts of my adult life, I wouldn't have changed a thing about it. I doubt I could do this now with my current situation, I say live it up as much as you can.
I only got what I paid into the employment insurance program, but I'm sure it's different elsewhere. My benefits ran out ages ago.
I've been unemployed since early november and I haven't really done much with all that free time. I did some minor renovations on my apartment over the winter, and some landscaping and gardening in the spring. I've also smoked a couple ounces of weed and learned to cook better food.
I was supposed to go back to work in may, but the job I was promised keeps getting pushed back because the ministry of the environment is dragging its heels on the environmental assessment for the project.
On the bright side, it looks like I'll be free for most of the summer, so I'll probably spend every nice day stoned and naked on the beach.
It's crazy how some of you can be unemployed and still be able to afford your living expenses. I can't wait until I can have that kind of buffer in my savings.
You should be pulling 10-15% of every check out as a buffer, you should start this week.
I've been trying to do this, so far I have enough to survive for about a month without having a job. Ideally I believe you should have atleast 3 months saved.
There was a time when I barely scraped by and had to pay rent with a credit card, and then pay that off a week or two later. I learned how to budget my money pretty damn quick at that point.
Unless you're making minimum wage or have serious student debt, it shouldn't be too hard to set aside something from every paycheck.
I know plenty of people that make a decent living, and yet they have fuck all for savings because they spend thousands of dollars on frivolous shit every year.
I have roughly 5k saved up (Including what i"ll get from my PTO when it's cashed in when I leave my current job.)
And even that isn't enough to make me feel confident.
5k isn't alot with no job or unemployment.....
That would support me comfortably for about four months.
I'm still paying off the mistakes/purchases from my 20's, I should be mostly done by August (not including student loans) and then I can really start saving some money.
Well I'll be getting a job relatively quickly, at least a retail job or something. I actually look forward to retail for a little bit, gives me a good chance to meet people and get use to kind of how a new area is. But I'll be looking for a real job (I already have been) the whole time too and am confident I'll find something. Even if it's some contract work which I really wouldn't mind.
Just keep in mind in the retail world, full time is now 30 hours, not 40. So you may be getting two jobs for double the fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Or I may stick with 30 hours and put extra time into building a few website ideas I've had that would help improve my portfolio.
I've been unemployed for close to 4 months now and I've managed to only spend $1500 of my savings / redundancy package so far. I'm completely debt free and have about $7000 saved away, and I've cut my spending habits waaaaay down, so I'm in no rush to find a job. I'm taking my time looking for a job I'd actually like rather than diving into the first job i could get, which may take a while in this job market. I'm also considering going to film school next year, as its something i think I'd enjoy and I have a few connections in the industry.
There is a man doing it right!
You should have enough money to live for 6 months if you're axed. That's the min, i recommend a year.
So if you make 40k a year and lift comfortably, by age 30 you should have 40k in savings. Don't cry, you can do it.
ahhh, only 38k more to go!!!
That's a ridiculously high number.
I have spent maybe $2000 in a year. That's high estimating.
And $50 of that was stolen out of my room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
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Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
I try to do my best but it's tough sometimes. Seems the more money I come to make, the more stupid shit pops up. I'm getting there though.
Then stop buying the stupid shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
I don't mean "stupid shit" like stuff I don't need, I mean bills popping up out of the blue, stuff breaking that needs to be fixed, car inspections, etc. I really just need to work on making more money and perhaps reducing the costs of my living expenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
I can do 250 if I have to, but can lift 200 comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
lol, saving 10% of your earnings isn't hard.
Of course it isn't.
it's only hard when you have stupid shit to pay off that you shouldn't have bought in the first place.
99% percent of TNL has less than 5k in the bank, that's a promise. So for not being "hard", I have to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by arjue
Here's one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor
do you know how many lawns you have to mow to net 5k?
about 100.
Biff, you know nothing about my money. Shut the fuck up and keep thinking you're a baller.
The first part of that statement will never happen, while the second part will never cease to happen.
50% ain't bad.