Go, Economy!

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Don't act like you even partially comprehend what I'm talking about.

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Why don't you explain it, then, for we that are intellectually challenged? I'm really interested. Really. I'd like to hear about a living a life on the land/minimalism and simultaneously having a laptop/computer and surfing the net. It sounds interesting.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Free trade has to work both ways. If the government minimizes regulations to allow for potentially larger returns on investment, then it can't be expected to bail out the businesses that make shitty investments.

The problem is that now that it is at this point, the Fed has no other realistic option. The key s to make sure that the banks responsible don't reap any benefit from this situation and that their profits go right back to the government to repay this emergency loan.

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We have a girl at work. 32 years old, 300+ lbs. 2 boys and divorced. She gets $1600 a month just in child support. Moves into a $175k house and gets a new car this past year with the boyfriend who has already filed bankruptcy just to "keep up" with her one and only friend who also works here. She can't afford what she has, yet asks for part time hours and gets rewarded with a $1/hr raise. Most days she works 8am-10am. It's people like this who I rather loathe. Being fat and happy while she possibly gets bailed out.

Maybe people are raised a lot more different than I, but I never had this urge to buy expensive things when I didn't have the money. I have a credit card that I only use to keep credit. Anything I buy I can afford and pay off immediately. Then you have tens of thousands that feel entitled to stuff they never work for. Just rubs me the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

I'd like to hear about a living a life on the land/minimalism and simultaneously having a laptop/computer and surfing the net. It sounds interesting.

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I never said anything about living off the land - other than that I would be able to take care of myself if a GREAT DEPRESSION happened. All I said was that we have a lot of things we don't need at all. It's not a biblical rule that I'm against everything modern.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

All I said was that we have a lot of things we don't need at all.

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I guess you're not being very clear about what that means. HDTV? The Internet? An extra car in the garage? A sprinkling system? A pint of Haagen Dazs in the fridge? Cell phones?

I agree that there's a lot many people could/should do without, especially if they're struggling.

I agree with Icarus more than I agree with the rest of you. This being said, I enjoy playing Castle Crashers on my HDTV.

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Originally Posted by Josh

I agree with Icarus more than I agree with the rest of you. This being said, I enjoy playing Castle Crashers on my HDTV.

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What is that, an oxymoron, or something?

Your mom is a moron.

Your mom's not smart enough to be a moron.

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Originally Posted by Gooch

Shortsighted fool. You must be book smart because it's evident you're not street smart. Your plan works only if nothing goes wrong in your life. Cancer? Treating that costs money. Car accident? What if you have a child that needs special care? Elderly parents to care for?

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I know people who made a similar lifestyle change as Nash hopefully is joking about (I don't really think he's serious about it for various reasons)...

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Well, I was half kidding. Of course I'm not going to jump into something without any planning or preparation, but I also don't have the same outlook on life as most people do. I try not to live my life thinking about the "what ifs." I go with what I have and what I can do right now. Sure, I'm mindful of the future, but I don't let it dictate how I live the present. I'm still young and am in excellent physical shape, and I don't want to take that for granted. My brother is 25 years old right now, a financial planner for Mass Mutual, and currently busting his ass like 80 hours a week so he can fill up his retirement account? That's a horrible way to live and to throw away your youth.

For things I know that are certainly going to happen, like my parents getting older/dying, I'm definitely taking steps to make sure things like are taken care of (I'm helping them with their estate planning). But for things that may or may not happen, whatever. If I'm still young, can minimally afford it, and I want to do something like backpack around the world, I'm going to take it. I don't want to be 65, looking back on my life and thinking, "Well, I'm 65 and have a lot of money now, but what have I done my whole life? Nothing but work." If that makes me a short-sighted fool, then I'll take it.

And you guys should stop giving icarusfall a hard time about his lifestyle. It's not like he said he's living like the unibomber out in the woods. He just has different priorities (that I incline to agree with).

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Originally Posted by Nash

My brother is 25 years old right now, a financial planner for Mass Mutual, and currently busting his ass like 80 hours a week so he can fill up his retirement account? That's a horrible way to live and to throw away your youth.

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1) then you really had no business going to law school

2) i make 6 figures and generally work like 40 hours a week and have my nights/weekends - you could too

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And you guys should stop giving icarusfall a hard time about his lifestyle. It's not like he said he's living like the unibomber out in the woods. He just has different priorities (that I incline to agree with).

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i'm not going into his survivalist punk rock counterculture tattoo thread and pissing on it. this thread is about the economy and he has posted that the economy is magic voodoo that he doesn't understand like 15 times.