Logo Help!

So I am getting more and more job offers as the weeks go buy, and im getting much more respect at my current one (the one i just got a promo at) and i want to unify it all with a logo that screams me!

Periphrasis Productions is more for my film making, even then i feel i am outgrowing the name. Productions aside, i want the photography portion of it to reflect more of me. What i constantly hear are the most iconic things about me, are the hair and the glasses. I have 2 concepts posted. I am indecisive, i am also not very good at photoshop so this took a good wacking at to get.

Help :D

p.s. B-Ri Pictures also isnt a finalized name. Once i get this logo done i then need to design my business cards. I also uploaded the photo i was referencing from, its an older pic of me, but i am going to cut my hair this way again.

Here's mine. It's pretty rough, but you get the idea.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1206645796

like this?

I don't like the space of gray between the base of the neck and that white line. Also the shading on the dark side of the neck is really ugly if you look at it up close.

A cleaner version of what I did earlier ... kinda.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1206648677

what do you suggest to make it look cleaner? like i said im a deer in headlights with photoshop trying to make this.

new one.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1206649417

That's Atrocious XD

Need something that also reflects the quality of your work, throwing a picture through a photoshop filter does not make me go "Man this guy is a good photographer and knows what he is doing"

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Originally Posted by Thief Silver

That's Atrocious XD

Need something that also reflects the quality of your work, throwing a picture through a photoshop filter does not make me go "Man this guy is a good photographer and knows what he is doing"

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I didnt put it through a photoshop filter, i was doing it by the pen tool dot by dot.

This is a logo for watermarked pictures, logo for club flyers, for the web site, and possibly one for the business cards.

http://picasaweb.google.com/briangmo...gitalPortfolio

theres my digital portfolio, mind taking a whack at it?

Yeah, I'm no designer, but I work with enough professional designs to know that Advocate is terrible at this. B-Ri, wait for the real experts to come in the thread. :)

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

I didnt put it through a photoshop filter, i was doing it by the pen tool dot by dot.

This is a logo for watermarked pictures, logo for club flyers, for the web site, and possibly one for the business cards.

http://picasaweb.google.com/briangmo...gitalPortfolio

theres my digital portfolio, mind taking a whack at it?

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I was talking about Advocates not yours.

I never said I was a designer. He wanted ideas. The main idea is that the focus should be on the hair and glasses for his logo. That's what his friends he works with told him to focus on. His first idea still had the focus on his head. When it should more or less be the glasses and hair.

can you still take a whack at it thought?

no one else will help me!? D=

Take it from me, this is your best bet.

i love it :x

Don't do just the glasses like you did up top.

It's been done.
(Pictures are a tad not safe for work.)

Honestly this is probably one of the hardest logo samples to do because the company is named after you (which I'm personally not a fan of in general, but it's not my call). The hair and glasses seems iconic to the people around you, but are they the ones going to be giving you potential business? A client may come along and see the hair and get confused. Especially with productions (you could be a hair and make-up company or something for all they know). From a marketing perspective is this the greatest way to brand yourself?

Anyway I think Advocate's first design on white was a decent attempt. The faux-hawk and glasses are too big and the typeface is pretty assy but the use of whitespace for the face makes it really iconic. So nice work Advocate for someone just fooling around -- all logo's start off as a rough piece of garbage rendering to start. Once you get the idea down you start to spend time fine-tuning it from there. Pineapple's isn't too bad, either. Though obviously a gag it has a raw style to it that might be fine to explore. It would need a lot of polish.

Also Photoshop isn't a good program to use for logo's for production purposes. If you ever get enough money to get professional design work done they'll request a vector EPS file. If you don't have it they'll gladly make one for you and charge you accordingly. For vector EPS's get to know Illustrator. At first it will seem like a strange and foreign land you've stumbled upon. But once you become familiar you won't ever go back to Photoshop for logo's or line work.

I am completely out of money to invest into more design programs, thats why i had decided to post on TNL, in hopes TNL, the design group of tnl, and the helpful group of TNL would help me work this one out. This was just a quick idea i had in my head, and like i said in the first post the name isnt final whatsoever, i just feel i should differentiate my video/film "periphrasis productions" away from photography work. I am completely open ears with TNL if TNL does wanna help me out with this.

When I go into work on Monday, I'll mess with it a bit. We do alot of logo design for business cards and such. One of my coworkers is really great at this sort of this thing, so I'll see what we can come up with. :)

http://the-nextlevel.com/board/attac...1&d=1206927839

I LOL'd. Makes you look like a Russian business, too.

I'm not too crazy about the upside down text, but the photo part is clever. I like it :)

wow i must be part russian then hahaha.

I thought I was going to work today, but I have the day off, so I stopped by work really quick to do this rough draft. I did it really fast and basically just got rid of the upside down text and replaced it with smaller text. I'll be able to work on it more on Wed. when I come into work. :)

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...brilogo2-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Samba De Amiga

I thought I was going to work today, but I have the day off, so I stopped by work really quick to do this rough draft. I did it really fast and basically just got rid of the upside down text and replaced it with smaller text. I'll be able to work on it more on Wed. when I come into work. :)

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...brilogo2-1.jpg

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I'd center the "T" between the glasses, for sure.

I didn't even see that before, good eye!

Thats some jagged ass text too.

Adding to that, even though I know it's a rough draft, the font color isn't the same.

I like the idea and direction mark and samba are going with the logo....

IMO.

Ask drewbacca nicely to make you a neat logo using only a cool font or two he has laying around.

That will better and more professional than anything in this thread so far.

No offense to any of the drafts posted so far btw!

Seriously, it was my day off and I went into work specifically because I had told B-Ri I would work on it on Monday. It was just to see how it would look without the upside down text. As I said, I'll be in work Wed. to take a real stab at it.

I have faith in Samba.

April Fools?

bwahahaha. yew can dew eet!

Wow, Drew gave me a compliment.

Also, I agree with Drew's assessment. You can do it, Samba.

I like Samba's best so far.

I stole MarkRyan's logo, he had the awesome concept.

edit: Well, here's another quick stab at it. I've been pretty busy at work, so I just made the text the same to get an idea how it would look.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...rilogobest.jpg

Now put it in a shark's mouth.

get rid of that B-ri shit if he's serious about doing peoples work. that would turn me away. it makes it sound like you're getting work done by some gangster nigger rap "artist". use you're real friggin name.

and feather those glasses. is any of this done in Illustrator or vector art? i can't see those glasses scaling bigger very well with those jagged edges.

SHARK MOUTH.


I think a cleaned-up version of Advocate's first would probably be the best thing going in the thread. No offense, but the latest set looks like it's the header for an eyeglass frame shop's "Geocities" web-page in 1994.

Why not get a DV tape, slap a label on with your name written in big bold letters, take a picture, and call it a day?

i actually really like that idea. he's a photographer, he should use that to his advantage.

OUTSIDETHEBOXXSHARKMOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really like the idea of making up a cool photo for a logo.

Why don't you guys stop shitting on mine and post something better. I would have been able to put more time into it but my computer at home crashed a couple of weeks ago and I actually have to work sometimes at work. I know it was subpar, that's why I said it was a rough draft just to get a visual idea.

did you ever take studio classes in college? it's called critique'ing. i'd like to think i made people better in my class by not sugar coating shit. sure they usually cried but it was the only way to learn. you're not getting paid for this so just settle down.

You're right, I'm not getting paid, so oh well. My post came out bitchier than I had meant. I was serious about the part that you guys should post something better though. I don't have the resources that most of you probably do ie. photoshop, so go throw something better together and post it.

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Originally Posted by Samba De Amiga

You're right, I'm not getting paid, so oh well. My post came out bitchier than I had meant. I was serious about the part that you guys should post something better though. I don't have the resources that most of you probably do ie. photoshop, so go throw something better together and post it.

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i'm busy getting paid right now to do what he's asking for free. so in that case, i would rather devote my time to that.

(nevernmind the fact that i have time to post ;))

i still say he does a photo thing like Yeller mentioned. take a photo of whatever he said, but put the lens behind the glasses enough so that you can see some of them (since you're intent on using them) and the tape through them.

My real try. Using ideas from everyone. I gave this a shot.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1207254954

Advocate, do you even know what "logo" means?

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Originally Posted by Dyne

i'm busy getting paid right now to do what he's asking for free. so in that case, i would rather devote my time to that.

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Youre obviously not.

I never asked anyone to do anything for me for free, i asked for help, ideas, ect.

Advocate's first design is the best concept in the thread (though what's with the last one? Wine and flowers lol that's awesome for all the wrong reasons). The glasses are a fun novelty but could wear thin pretty fast unless the technical rendering really sold it.

I think Advocate pulled pics from B-Ri's album. Cool concept, but would it work well for watermarks and such?

Advocate... thats kinda busy, yes?

I still like Sambas.

I think Advocate's would work well for a business card. It's eye-catching and showcases B-Ri's photography.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

Advocate's first design is the best concept in the thread (though what's with the last one? Wine and flowers lol that's awesome for all the wrong reasons). The glasses are a fun novelty but could wear thin pretty fast unless the technical rendering really sold it.

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This is true. The cleaned up head with a classy font of the website address, and something like "B-Ri Productions" on a line above the website/phone number would all look really nice on a business card. I'd use a grey or silver, solid, for the font and put it on the right margin of a business card with a textured background and I'd lose the grey.

I also think you should go by something other than B-Ri. Even your last name sounds better, another good idea by Advocate.

However I put my vote with:
"C-Ri Productions"
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah@omfg.com

Only don't use Productions. It should be like "Photo/Photography by Moreno" or "Moreno Photography" or something like that.


I also think a neat idea to play with would be to fill the white space in the lenses with some photos/something very colorful. That would kind of imply the photographic vision you have and it'd be attention grabbing, but you'd have to do it right so it wouldn't look like shit, a simple, vibrant image. I don't technically know how to work any of these programs very well but I can provide photoshop and illustrator to you on the DL but if you fuck around enough you can do some good things.

Some frame-filling ideas from your gallery:
http://lh4.google.com/briangmoreno/R...jpg?imgmax=144
http://lh5.google.com/briangmoreno/R...jpg?imgmax=800
http://lh3.google.com/briangmoreno/R...jpg?imgmax=800 - mirror/rotate this one before trying it
http://lh6.google.com/briangmoreno/R...jpg?imgmax=800

Of course you'll have to play with cropping and resizing those images to fit the frames, and see if any of them look good tiny. A good picture of a daffodil or something would work well, something with a simple subject that you can make out small.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

Advocate's first design is the best concept in the thread (though what's with the last one? Wine and flowers lol that's awesome for all the wrong reasons). The glasses are a fun novelty but could wear thin pretty fast unless the technical rendering really sold it.

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Thanks. I didn't think I was trying for anything. All he is doing is asking for ideas. At least you (i'm being real here) are helping and offering advice in the matter.

Also: I pulled photos that he could not be sued for trademark infringement.

Hence, the wine, flowers, ladmark, and black and white tree at night.

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Originally Posted by Samba De Amiga

I think Advocate pulled pics from B-Ri's album. Cool concept, but would it work well for watermarks and such?

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yes. Brian is constantly putting new photos in fliker.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

This is true. The cleaned up head with a classy font of the website address, and something like "B-Ri Productions" on a line above the website/phone number would all look really nice on a business card. I'd use a grey or silver, solid, for the font and put it on the right margin of a business card with a textured background and I'd lose the grey.

I also think you should go by something other than B-Ri. Even your last name sounds better, another good idea by Advocate.

However I put my vote with:
"C-Ri Productions"
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah@omfg.com

Only don't use Productions. It should be like "Photo/Photography by Moreno" or "Moreno Photography" or something like that.


I also think a neat idea to play with would be to fill the white space in the lenses with some photos/something very colorful. That would kind of imply the photographic vision you have and it'd be attention grabbing, but you'd have to do it right so it wouldn't look like shit, a simple, vibrant image. I don't technically know how to work any of these programs very well but I can provide photoshop and illustrator to you on the DL but if you fuck around enough you can do some good things.

Some frame-filling ideas from your gallery:
Of course you'll have to play with cropping and resizing those images to fit the frames, and see if any of them look good tiny. A good picture of a daffodil or something would work well, something with a simple subject that you can make out small.

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See, I actually don't know what Brian wants this to go on. Is this for a business card? The beginning logo for a film? What exactly?

Cause if it is for a business card or letterhead. Then yes, firstblood is right. The latest one is a bad idea.

What is first and foremost is a logo. This is soemthing that WILL go on business cards and will be my watermark on photography.

Secondly, then there is the business cards, the logo needs to exist ti throw on business cards, i need it before mid april because i am going to get some of my BIGGEST job ops mid april. After business cards then comes the site.

The name like ive said is not finalized. I was in the mindset that i was trying to sell myself as a photographer, thus the glasses and hair, cause those are the iconic things about me. I do very much hear what you guys are saying that i should sell my work and vision over myself.

I do thank all of TNL that has contributed to all of this, and from here and on out. I wanna start this business, i have many reasons to do this, stated or not.

Tonight, i had people approach me complimenting my photography for the first time, and it was a breath of fresh air. it really was. Its only given me drive to go above and beyond what i am doing right now. Thanks TNL.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

This is true. The cleaned up head with a classy font of the website address, and something like "B-Ri Productions" on a line above the website/phone number would all look really nice on a business card. I'd use a grey or silver, solid, for the font and put it on the right margin of a business card with a textured background and I'd lose the grey.

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I always just assumed the gray was there because of Advocate lazy close-cropping job (lazy for concept).

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Originally Posted by Advocate

See, I actually don't know what Brian wants this to go on. Is this for a business card? The beginning logo for a film? What exactly?

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it's a logo. It should be suitable for all of those.

okay, here's what i just made in 2 minutes, and while it's not very good, i think it's the best anyone could do just using what bri posted.

It sucks, but at least the type makes some sort of attempt at working with the image.

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I also think you should go by something other than B-Ri. Even your last name sounds better, another good idea by Advocate.

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My vote's for the last name idea.

Seeing as we have this thread, and I don't want to devote a thread all to myself, here is a logo I just decided to make for fun, although I'd like to be able to refine it and use it. After looking through this thread, it made me want to think of a cool name to use for my own work. I really didn't want to use my name, so I finally came up with this idea.

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We've had a bunch of animals at my house at one time (9 chickens, 3 dogs, 4 cats, 5 fish, and taken care of wounded animals that have stumbled across here such as an owl, chipmunk, and squirrel ) hence the name Animal House Productions. I know, I know, I mainly only used a filter, but I really like the colors and edges it produces, I think it is nice and simple. Something I could put either before or after my personal works.

BTW, I know it could still use some work, but I spent so much time trying to find the right combo of filters and adjustments that I just wanted to get the name in there and not really touch it much. May not even really need much touching up, but I will leave that all up to you guys.

Use just dog on the right, crop out everything south of the collar, and make the text contrast more with the brown of the dog. That's where I'd start.

Me and Advocate have been tossing names at each other, serious and not to serious.

B-Ri Photos (the og)
Moreno Pics
Morano (lol)
Red Mage Pictures (Lol)
Sony Pictures (LOL)
R.P.D.S.M.3
Columbian Spitfire Prod. (bold = ???)

I was also talking with another friend, B-Pics by B-Ri (but the notion of something b = not first choice)

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

Me and Advocate have been tossing names at each other, serious and not to serious.

B-Ri Photos (the og)
Moreno Pics
Morano (lol)
Red Mage Pictures (Lol)
Sony Pictures (LOL)
R.P.D.S.M.3
Columbian Spitfire Prod. (bold = ???)

I was also talking with another friend, B-Pics by B-Ri (but the notion of something b = not first choice)

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I was thinking about this myself, and personally did not want my name to be involved. Regardless, of the choices above, I'd say Moreno Pics. I really don't think B-Ri conveys any sense of professionalism. For what you want now, Moreno Pics, or hell, if we are just dealing with photography (which I suppose could encompass video) I would suggest Moreno Photography. It just has a little more class in my eyes.

A slightly more serious stab at the same idea.

http://the-nextlevel.com/board/attac...1&d=1207475962

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1207508023

The only reason I'm not helping you out right now with your logo (with physical attempts, i'll give advice where I can), B-Ri, is that I have a lot on the go as it is. I'm in way over my head for time right now as a designer.

I've hooked in 3 websites as a freelancer (outsourcing the coding), 2 logo's for small business, that blog I'm trying to start up about learning web design (idunnohow.com, I posted about it before). I'm also upstarting my own art business with a salesperson I know which has been going well so I may have to do some abstract paintings earlier this week as well AND my own marketing & design company. Oh and a business card my friend Jayan's chop shop (a freeby, probably). I also have a massive website that I've been trying to progress for the past year and 1/2 that's spinning its wheels for the time being. I've also revamped my personal portfolio site which will be up this week sometime.

If I do have some spare time I'll mess around with it, but I'm just not going to make any promises I'm not 100% sure I can follow through with.

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

Me and Advocate have been tossing names at each other, serious and not to serious.

B-Ri Photos (the og)
Moreno Pics
Morano (lol)
Red Mage Pictures (Lol)
Sony Pictures (LOL)
R.P.D.S.M.3
Columbian Spitfire Prod. (bold = ???)

I was also talking with another friend, B-Pics by B-Ri (but the notion of something b = not first choice)

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When you say the word PHOTO I automatically get the impression of a 24 hour development place found in most Supercentres mega shopping stores. Moreno Photography sounds professional. You have to think of the businesses you'll be catering too, as well.

Whose business are you planning on hooking with your photography?

I am misquoted I suggested .. Moreno Productions.

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Originally Posted by MarkRyan

A slightly more serious stab at the same idea.

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i

fucking

love it.

i just threw this together using markryans latest.

Click for full size

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

i just threw this together using markryans latest.

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(Pst, I changed the spacing between "Brian" and "Moreno" for a slightly less Mike Tyson appearance.)

hey mark, did you do that with photoshop? or? you think i can get the master file (or super high quality version)

<3<3<3 (p.s. check your rep)

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

hey mark, did you do that with photoshop? or? you think i can get the master file (or super high quality version)

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Sadly there is no super high quality version, just a PSD of the exact same size in the jpg. If you like the idea, I suggest redoing it in vectors or sumshit 'cause that won't print or scale especially well. Here's the file.

<3<3<3

what font did you use cause photoshop says i am missing it.

edit: also, anyone have any recommendations for a web host. Last host i had (cyberpixels) REALLY burned me.

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Originally Posted by B-Ri

<3<3<3

what font did you use cause photoshop says i am missing it.

edit: also, anyone have any recommendations for a web host. Last host i had (cyberpixels) REALLY burned me.

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Arial Black for your name, Lucida Console for "photography."

Well, that's the trick that most people don't get. The key is in the 2x1 blocks. You NEED large quanaties of them and in every color. Otherwise you'll ALWAYS get stuck, and in the final hour run back to some store in a panic buying packs at $20 a pop, filled with useless blocks you'll never use, just because you had one 2x1 green too few!


EDIT: nevermind, I thought this thread was Lego Help!

:lol: rep

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Originally Posted by FirstBlood

okay, here's what i just made in 2 minutes, and while it's not very good, i think it's the best anyone could do just using what bri posted.

It sucks, but at least the type makes some sort of attempt at working with the image.

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This is awesome.

thanks tnl, now i was able to launch this:

www.brianmoreno.com

still needs a LOT of work, but hey its a start.

i like the busy one, my friend wants the simpler one but i think its too plain.

rawr

I like this one (just adjust it for the new logo you created)...

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...3&d=1207254954

im having a lot of trouble trying to make the logo markryan made into a transparency watermark, it always takes in a lot of white pixelated boarders, and jaggedy.

Are you using one of the attachments from above or master version that was sent to you? I could see if I could help.

psd master

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psd master

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If you want, send it to me, and I'll see if there is anything I can do. I'll have some free time this weekend and wouldn't mind trying to help out.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

I like this one (just adjust it for the new logo you created)...

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...3&d=1207254954

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And people always tell me my job is easy.

harsh yo.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

And people always tell me my job is easy.

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:lol:

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

And people always tell me my job is easy.

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Best post from Drewbacca ever.

Advocate seriously needs to give it a rest. That shit is absolutely horrid.

also, WHAT THE FUCK @ stretching out the first photo anyone sees when going to your website.

It's like this whole project is a how to on design "don't"s

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Originally Posted by FirstBlood

Advocate seriously needs to give it a rest. That shit is absolutely horrid.

also, WHAT THE FUCK @ stretching out the first photo anyone sees when going to your website.

It's like this whole project is a how to on design "don't"s

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we didnt stretch it. It was somewhere in the mounds of code, and we just found what was stretching it and am fixing it as we speak.

what its been doing is the width is decided by how large the viewers web browser is. It never seemed stretched to me with how i have my windows open, then i saw it on someone elses screen and started diving into the code.

Hey B-Ri I made u a business card.

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Originally Posted by K3V

Hey B-Ri I made u a business card.

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L O FUCKIN L! Rep earned my friend.

take it to fight club, jesus.

bucka wah!

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Originally Posted by K3V

Hey B-Ri I made u a business card.

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Nothing can top Advocates masterwork.

Stop projecting. Also stop fronting.

Somewhere in small print on the card you should put "I brought it to the next level" mmm ghetto ftw