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razor should be deported: legendary isnt a valid citizenship qualification
It's enough to get me into any country, no questions asked.
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Originally Posted by Type Ryan
this is leading into a different topic, but here is a cost breakdown per gallon at the pump over time:Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html << link has breakdown and explanations
the actual oil company profits and costs per gallon is only currently in 2008 ~ -.08 to .26 cents (yes thats a negative sign) per gallon as a distributor, and if they have refineries (most gas companies do not) it has been ~ .11 to .44 cents a gallon
that means for that cents number, the oil company has to pay for infrastructure, run the entire business from R&D to IT, extract the oil, distribute and market it and then take profit off the top. its really not as much headroom as most people think. its the volume of consumption which leads to the profits.
the majority of the cost is the physical cost of the oil which has been crazy at 100 bucks plus a barrel lately
the govt really ends up being the winner as the taxes are static and dont fluxuate from high to low
a not quite so accurate graphical representation:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...reakdown-3.jpg
While the situation with illegal immigration is very serious, we need to also take a look at some of the citizens of our own. Oftentimes one can have a higher wage if they squirt out a few kids and life off of welfare than get a minimum-wage job. If these people won't work in an air-conditioned workplace, do you think they'll be out in the hot Florida sun picking berries?
The problem with deportation is we've let the issue get too big for it to be a viable solution. 12-20 million? You're talking about a major military operation on US soil. APCs rolling down your block. Anything less and they'll just come back as fast as we can send them out. And "securing the border" is pretty much a pipe dream; go ahead and pretend the coyotes won't adapt and see where that gets us.
No, the problem has to be solved the same way it was created: economically. Put some bite into employment enforcement. Heavy fines for corporations that hire illegals, and lengthy jail sentences for the specific individuals responsible. Make the risks of illegal employment far outweigh the benefits. When the jobs dry up, the illegals will deport themselves.
I don't have a problem with immigration, but if there were something to be done about it this is the way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gas
This isn't technically true. It's a violation of policy, not law. You can't be prosecuted for it, it isn't actually a crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
I do think that our existing policy is stupid in that we should provide a legal path for these people to enter the country. People shouldn't have to sneak in just to come here. I'd be in favor of stricter enforcement if we had a more open immigration policy in general.
All the requirements of education and financial status to come here are really un-American in my opinion. I'm all for poor, downtrodden people coming here to raise families and make a better life. It's good for the country.You know, during the mid-1800s the Irish doubled the population of NYC in two years, and somehow that didn't run it into the ground. A standard of living is not something you "bring" it's something you make here, and they're as willing to make a high standard of living as we allow them to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
So tell me, how have illegal Mexicans lowered your standard of living exactly? I want a personal example.
How?
Yep, letting out a giant LOL as they wipe their collective ass with said bill sure would be a burden. (Same goes for the notion of charging them for the health care their people receive here.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
Seriously, how do you expect to hold them to such a debt? Threat of military force?