Illegal Immigration Thread

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im presently experiencing my woman go through the citizenship process and in talking to many people (mostly hispanic) doing the same, a few comments...

- the majority spends more money trying to get here illegally than it would take to file the paperwork.

- the current turnaround time is 9-12 months for full citizenship

- there is nothing so pressing that the majority would need immediate entrance.

- jobs in mexico are readily available and can sustain a homestead for the time it would take to get a green card/work visa

- its the "have to have it now", "get rich quick" mentality driven by the "allure of the american dollar", and the "sense of entitlement" that they "deserve" to live the same lives as US citizens (direct quotes from legal hispanic immigrants)




this method of being a resident in this nation is unacceptable. follow the law, become a citizen.

these businesses paying less than minimum wage are breaking the law as well and should pay proper wage/taxes or even sponsor visas if they want workers from mexico

we are lucky to have oceans to the sides and a competent country to the north, or this problem would be much worse

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Hell yeah, if an illegal comes into an emergency room with a heart attack or some other serious condition. Just let 'em die.

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No... people deserve medical treatment no matter what.

However, instead of sending the bill to me in the form of taxes and insurance hikes, the bill should be footed by their country or their pockets.

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Originally Posted by squall_vb

Stop being such a selfish American.

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No make me.

Hi squall, about time you showed up to the party.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

No make me.

Hi squall, about time you showed up to the party.

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Howdy. Things have been busy. Plus, I've already won this argument in the otherworld. Sometime before midnight logic will prevail, and the bleeding-heart crowd will drop the "You're just disingenuous" card.

Mark my words.

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Originally Posted by D_N_G

Showstopper
im presently experiencing my woman go through the citizenship process and in talking to many people (mostly hispanic) doing the same, a few comments...
- the majority spends more money trying to get here illegally than it would take to file the paperwork.
- the current turnaround time is 9-12 months for full citizenship
- there is nothing so pressing that the majority would need immediate entrance.
- jobs in mexico are readily available and can sustain a homestead for the time it would take to get a green card/work visa
- its the "have to have it now", "get rich quick" mentality driven by the "allure of the american dollar", and the "sense of entitlement" that they "deserve" to live the same lives as US citizens (direct quotes from legal hispanic immigrants)
No... people deserve medical treatment no matter what.
However, instead of sending the bill to me in the form of taxes and insurance hikes, the bill should be footed by their country or their pockets.

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I want that gun. Also, I accept the billing of the country of which they are from.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

OKay smart guy ... who's going to flip the bill? Staying in the hospital is not cheap and the doctors need to be paid. AND I do know for a fact there are TWO reasons why Hospitals in America are expensive ... one; lawsuits. Two; Illegal Aliens who don't pay or have health coverage.

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So what would you do then? You've repeatedly insinuated it, but you've always come just short of actually saying it. If an illegal alien shows up at an emergency room in critical condition, you'd expect doctors and nurses to just let him die? Good luck getting them to do that.

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I know that, but the point is ... I guess I'll have to spell it out for some. Not alot of people are being paid 3/hour for work they do. Get it?

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If the work pays so well, why are there so many illegals doing it? The majority probably aren't making such great money, or there'd be more Americans willing to do the job. Get it?

So here is what I'm thinking and I mean no disrespect to advocate at all. I don't think his dad was firing off 20 dollars an hour and only had illegal workers. If he did then he was doing it to save the overhead of insurance, which is very high these days.

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Originally Posted by Biff

If he did then he was doing it to save the overhead of insurance, which is very high these days.

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bingo.

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Originally Posted by Opaque

If I broke a leg in Japan and had no money, they'd let me die before they treated me.

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Incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Melf

So what would you do then? You've repeatedly insinuated it, but you've always come just short of actually saying it. If an illegal alien shows up at an emergency room in critical condition, you'd expect doctors and nurses to just let him die? Good luck getting them to do that.



If the work pays so well, why are there so many illegals doing it? The majority probably aren't making such great money, or there'd be more Americans willing to do the job. Get it?

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check D_N_G's post. The answers reside in there.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

I know a ton. Too bad the two way streets name is ... GET NATURALIZED.

Cause the problem is stemmed by them walking into a hospital withOUT health insurance. SURE, they want health insurance and it would be GRAND. At the same token ... they are sitting waiting for care, knowing full well they don't have coverage. There by it taxes the people that DO have insurance.

Kinda like if you walked into a restaurant and got a table. You order something to eat and when the check comes you say ... Oh no I don't have any cash. And you get up and leave. The Manager asks for your name and adress and you give him false info (happens a lot in hospitals). Then, a week later the restaurant has to raise its prices, cause not only you didn't pay. A crap load of other patrons didn't either.

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to be fair, a lot of shitty white trash do this too