So you're in favor of universal healthcare now? Because if not, then explain to me under what circumstances a white CEO and an immigrant will ever get the same level of care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
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So you're in favor of universal healthcare now? Because if not, then explain to me under what circumstances a white CEO and an immigrant will ever get the same level of care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
I will be the first REAL pregnant man.
My milk will taste like sour patch kids
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I didn't mean to drag universal healthcare into this. I meant to say that as a medical professional that takes a damn oath about treating the patients to the best of their ability, they need to check that shit when they put on their white coat. If you don't agree with abortions and birth control, why are you an OB/GYN? You are NOT helping your patient by imposing your beliefs on them against what medical science offers. Someone that disagrees with the war shouldn't offer crappy prostheses to soldiers, and an OB/GYN shouldn't give crappy care to a fetus and carrying mother because they don't like the mother's lifestyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Getting angry about a drug user ruining their body is fine, but you still treat them. You don't let them die because you disagree with it. You get fired and jailed for that sort of behavior. It's very upsetting that medical professionals are allowed to/get away with this sort of shitty practice.
Short: Doctors should just practice medicine fairly. I am appalled at how some patients are treated due to medically irrelevant facts.
Transgenderism is weird to me. It's not something I'll ever understand, because I'm not in their place. I've been a tomboy, but I'm fine with my anatomy as given and I'm comfortable with my gender and associated roles. So it's weird to me, whatever. Don't really care beyond the initial 'huh, that's strange' reaction. If this man is having his health and the health of his child endangered because some doctors don't like that he used to be a she, they don't deserve to keep their medical licenses.
So you don't want people to be denied quality care based on race, nationality, gender or sexuality...But denying them care based on class is okay?
I never stated anything about my stance on healthcare financial policy. I simply feel that if a doctor receives a patient, they should act to the best of their medical knowledge to appropriately treat said patient. Not digging national healthcare into this situation, personally. That's for other people to argue. I've grown up hearing about how shitty healthcare can be financially, and have experienced a great deal of it myself. It's a slightly different argument than 'wow, you can afford it, but we hate you and won't treat you anyway!'
I just don't see how you can rail on discrimination of care in one set of circumstances, yet draw a seemingly arbitrary distinction on who is and is not being discriminated. If it is like you say, and care should be the same high standard regardless of non-medical factors, then how can it be any other way?
This thread is going downhill fast.
Hey, I'm just trying to understand. I'm not seeing why it's wrong that an affluent transgender person or gay person or woman seeking an abortion are denied care or quality care, and yet fine and dandy that people in poverty are treated the same way. If your view is that it's wrong to deny paying customers, that's fine, but then you can't make the moral outrage argument that it's wrong to deny care based on factors outside the scope of medicine, otherwise you're left with a pretty big paradox.
g0zen, stop ruining my wonderful image of Nomi!