All GOOD RPGs vs. Final Fantasy
This is a direct result of the Skies of Arcadia thread:
Why exactly does everyone feel compelled to compare games like Skies of Arcadia, Legend of Dragoon, and Star Ocean to the Final Fantasy franchise?
I've heard everything from hairstyle to backgrounds to plot disputed, and one sentiment is tirelessly maintained: "If it copies Final Fantasy, it's a rip off, a bad game, and not worth the plastic/aluminum it's printed on!"
My problem with this notion is two-fold. One, most of the games people claim are similar in any way usually aren't; and two, why don't they do this among the games in the Final Fantasy franchise?!
Should they be inclined to do so, they might find that the Final Fantasy "series" is nothing but a single game, butchered and re-pieced together over, and over, and over again. There are often new elements in the way of story and game play, but for the most part the conventions are the same, and usually take place within the same time frame.
Another issue I take up is the out right subversion of "Square-syndrome." It happens to every freaking one of Square's main characters. It's recycled character development, and it offends me.
To those who would defend your increasingly ineptly named Final Fantasy series speak up and offer me ration reasoning to these challenges.
To those who agree, please, expound on what I've said, and add anything I've missed.
Re: All GOOD RPGs vs. Final Fantasy
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Originally posted by Captain Vegetable
"If it copies Final Fantasy, it's a rip off, a bad game, and not worth the plastic/aluminum it's printed on!"
Quit being stupid. Did anyone say that? If you're talking about my SO2 comments, I never made any indication as to what I thought of its quality.
And congratulations on creating the worst topic I've seen on this board in a great while. :) What it really needed is a roundabout "hardcore RPGer vs. mainstream RPGer" topic, which this is. RPGs shouldn't be movies? Profound.
Shining the Holy Ark? My favorite Saturn game, but if you honestly think it has a better story than FF7, there are problems to sort out. The game barely has a story at all compared to FF7, and what's there is predominantly cliche material.
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Originally posted by Rob
Quit being stupid.
Eat a dick, Chumpy. :D
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Did anyone say that? If you're talking about my SO2 comments, I never made any indication as to what I thought of its quality.
Way to play politician!!!
P.S. this isn't the only board I frequent. Could it be that I was talking about "the general opinion" and not fingering you specifically because I hold you in high reguard and think you're a pretty smart guy who believes in his convictions and wouldn't say something without reason?
Nah! Why would I do something like that? I am stupid after all, and evedently an asshole to boot.
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And congratulations on creating the worst topic I've seen on this board in a great while. :) What it really needed is a roundabout "hardcore RPGer vs. mainstream RPGer" topic, which this is. RPGs shouldn't be movies? Profound.
Well, I guess that makes me a "mainstream RPGer," because I play the Final Fantasy games. I have my gripes with them, but I like them none the less.
Oh! Look! I never made any indication as to what I thought of their quality! I can play politician now too!...asshole.
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Shining the Holy Ark? My favorite Saturn game, but if you honestly think it has a better story than FF7, there are problems to sort out. The game barely has a story at all compared to FF7, and what's there is predominantly cliche material.
You got me here. I've never played Shining the Holy Ark. You must be talking to someone else...
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Originally posted by Captain Vegetable
Way to play politician!!!
Or "save my opinions from your imagination." You imagined my opinion, I never said what I thought of the game. You shouldn't even humor me like this if you weren't referring to my SO2 comparison.
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P.S. this isn't the only board I frequent. Could it be that I was talking about "the general opinion" and not fingering you specifically because I hold you in high reguard and think you're a pretty smart guy who believes in his convictions and wouldn't say something without reason?
"If." It was an important part of the sentence.
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Oh! Look! I never made any indication as to what I thought of their quality! I can play politician now too!...asshole.
Oh, come on:
"the Final Fantasy "series" is nothing but a single game, butchered and re-pieced together over, and over, and over again."
"Another issue I take up is the out right subversion of "Square-syndrome." It happens to every freaking one of Square's main characters. It's recycled character development, and it offends me."
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Originally posted by Rob
Oh, come on:
"the Final Fantasy "series" is nothing but a single game, butchered and re-pieced together over, and over, and over again."
"Another issue I take up is the out right subversion of "Square-syndrome." It happens to every freaking one of Square's main characters. It's recycled character development, and it offends me."
What? I didn't say that. I didn't inhale. No I didn't, no I'm not.
I'm playing politician. Isn't it working?