Your Top 10 PSOne RPGs

10. Wild Arms

- At the time I was use to the whole three character party and wasn't to thrilled but it eventually grew on me as did the 2D world and suddenly being thrown into an ugly 3D battle. The game did have a decent story and interesting characters. The fake ending was also a nice touch.

9. Vandal Hearts

- While Vandal Hearts didn't have that deep of a system, it was still a very enjoyable game. I still remember being suprised seeing the word "shit" in the begining of the game.

8. Grandia

- I know this isn't the version of choice but I still really enjoyed the game and it was a nice departure story wise from all the serious rpgs that were released at the time.

7. Final Fantasy IX

- I actually never played the game until last year but it graphically it held up and it was nice to see a FF game with a 4 party group again. I haven't finished it yet but I have really enjoyed the game, it reminds me of the SNES FFs.

6. Xenogears

- I remember reading about this game when it came out in Japan and how it would never see a release in the US. Well it did and I got it the Christmas it came out. I really liked how you could you battle in the giant mechs but also fight as the characters with a weird combo system.

5. Final Fantasy VII

- Not much to say about this game since pretty much everyone has played it.

4. Final Fantasy Tactics

- It took me awhile to really like this and get into but it just blows Vandal Hearts out of the water in every possible way.

3. Suikoden

2. Castlevania: SotN

1. Suikoden II

Honestly, your list is mine. Those are really the cream of the crop. I probably would have bumped FFVII a little further up, but every game on that list I've played through probably twice. As an aside, the PS1 era was probably THE best for JRPG's, I don't think I've played half as many RPG's since 2 generations ago.

So many red x's, so little time.

I recommend using the attach feature. Right now nobody can see your images. As for the list, I think you're going to take some heat for not including Vagrant Story, but other than that those are the best ones - though I don't see SotN as an rpg.

I was also a big fan of Legend of Dragoon in its time, though I understand if others weren't.

Not a bad list. Personally, I would remove FFIX and bump FFVIII to the top of the list. I also don't really see SotN as a proper RPG, but it's awesome enough that I can let it slide.

Also, kudos for leaving Chrono Cross off the list (major letdown in every imaginable way).

I actually really liked Legend of Dragoon, especially the combat system, which was great for me because I loved getting the timing down for all the combos and such. There was just something about it though that made it second-tier, though I can't put my finger on any one element that made it that way.

I think maybe I'd replace the first Suikoden with Star Ocean 2, not because Suikoden wasn't good but because the second one overshadows it in every way, and also because I played through SO2 about 4 times.

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Personally, I would remove FFIX and bump FFVIII to the top of the list.

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Wrong.

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This is gonna have to be one of those "agree to disagree" moments. VIII's story had me hook, line, and sinker (so much that I was able to look past the lackluster battle system). IX might have had better gameplay, but the story felt like bad leftovers. It's a rut that the series has been stuck in ever since.

Also noting, some of the sequels of those on the list turned out really bad. Vandal Hearts 2, Xenosaga, Wild Arms 2.

Breath of Fire III and IV were also pretty good, I liked seeing Capcom's detailed animations.

Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. Yeah, yeah... Sega CD blah blah Working Designs yadda yadda yadda whatever. I love that game.

Front Mission 3

Harvest Moon: Back To Nature

Vagrant Story. If SotN can be listed, this certainly can.

Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure. It's very cute.

I don't have 5 more. And 3 of my 5 might not even count... Hm.

Legend of the Dragoon was pretty good, but to level up you either needed a boss fight or to kill 100000 enemies. Most the time though because of that, bosses were genuinely tough but still killable.

I cannot bring myself to finish Suikoden II. I got so bored, which sucks because any time it's the story being advanced, it's awesome. Every other time it's terrible and I can't bring myself to care. I'm at the part where I'm going to the Toran republic, due to the way you gain XP in such an insanely awesome fast manner, random battles always feel like a chore because two or three random battles means you'll be up to where you need to be. Yeah it's great for catching up characters, but once you hit that exponential curve (though it's a negative curve) for XP every battle is a trip to tedious boring and "God I just want to get to the next part" with no enjoyment.

I can't stand trying to find treasures because of this, and always feel like I'm missing stuff.

Vagrant Story is more of an RPG than SOTN.

But SOTN is most definitely not an RPG.

At all.

Gonna have to agree with that one.. speaking of I need to play through Vagrant Story as well I bought it from Yoshi but it's been on backlog.

Honestly, I couldn't get into Vagrant Story. It wasn't anything about the story or the character, I just couldn't get into the combat system or the constant dank settings. Caves, cellars, etc. I dunno, I gave it a try on 5 seperate occasions.

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Also noting, some of the sequels of those on the list turned out really bad. Vandal Hearts 2, Xenosaga, Wild Arms 2.

Breath of Fire III and IV were also pretty good, I liked seeing Capcom's detailed animations.

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Gotta disagree on Xenosaga. Sure, it tended to ramble on a bit, and about half of the cutscenes could have been left on the floor. But on the whole, it was solid enough to make me want to continue the series.

Also, I loved BoF III and IV. I never played the PS2 sequel, but heard lots of bad things about it.

III was fun, though I got to the Oasis, got lost and said fuck this shit.

Shame too because I was really enjoying it.

Vagrant Story is a piece of trash and anyone who disagrees is flat out wrong.

Also: Grandia imo.

I read the Manga for Vaklyrie Profile, 12 chapters summarizing the main plot of the story. I don't feel the need to play the game, but I want to finish VP2.

Oh man, thanks for reminding me Thief. Valkyrie Profile probably takes the #1 slot for me. I can't believe I'd forget that.

Also Rich: Grandia was awesome. It had a lot of customization for a PS1 RPG at the time. You could spend hours leveling weapon and magic levels to gain skills and stats, etc.

PS1 Grandia is for noobs. Saturn Grandia is where it's at.

Vagrant Story is amazing.

Suikoden II is the best PS1 RPG. Anyone that tries to argue against this is trolling, and should be carded accordingly.

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PS1 Grandia is for noobs. Saturn Grandia is where it's at.

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i'd rather play a game in a language i understand.

Yeah, I'll take what I can get there. It was a good game regardless of the censorship.

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i'd rather play a game in a language i understand.

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Your mom's in a language I understand.

I'd rather play a game with a decent framerate and without god-awful, character-destroying voice acting. Also, plot translations have been around for a good long while now, champ.

i'm not going to sit there with a faq while i play a game just so i can understand what the fuck is going on when the game is available in english. the framerate is whatever; it's a goddamn rpg. who cares.

You forgot FF8 disc 1. Totally brilliant rpg that was going places. Somehow they fucked up the other 3 discs.

What you don't like time traveling witches that cause time paradoxes from their medieval castles?

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What you don't like time traveling witches that cause time paradoxes from their medieval castles?

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SHE WAS A SORCERESS! THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!!!1!

I'm just surprised they didn't show up in MSG2.

It's hard for me to make a list like this considering how the genre ages and having not played most of them in a decade. I don't consider games like SotN part of the genre, and even SRPGs I usually like to discuss separately.

I am currently replaying Xenogears which was my favourite PS1 RPG and probably still is. I don't normally like JRPGs for their stories but Xeno's is surprisingly deep and suspenseful. Suikoden II is my second choice.

I have been wanting to replay Parasite Eve again to see how it holds up.

And I can understand why people love Vagrant Story and Valkyrie Profile as they're unique and have awesome artwork. I just couldn't get into them.

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What you don't like time traveling witches that cause time paradoxes from their medieval castles?

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Seems pretty innocuous compared to the one that featured a bunch of crazy emos cloned from an alien that crashed in a meteorite thousands of years prior.

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I have been wanting to replay Parasite Eve again to see how it holds up.

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I played it again about two years ago, and it was still quite solid. PE2 was so broken that I couldn't get very far into it... which makes me sad, because I really, really, really wanted to.

I think regardless we can agree both are better than the one where a member of the beach boys emerges from a dream world to fight a giant evil version of his father who was a pro athlete adventurer alongside his old samurai dead guy best friend.

The street urchin and his friends who speak in muddled and strangely archaic dialects while helping a frigid cunt collect glowing stones and eventually just forgetting about it and hunting for monsters didn't exactly blow my skirt up, either.

God, FF is so gay.

I miss stories that the Gooch cooked up. Granted it was convoluted at times but I'd take a story like FFVI's anyday over the new stuff (hence why I really like Lost Odyssey)

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I have been wanting to replay Parasite Eve again to see how it holds up.

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Very well, in my opinion. I played through it again last year. Something about the atmosphere is completely riveting. The sequel was a massive letdown.

I absolutely adore PE, as well as Vagrant Story.

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I miss stories that the Gooch cooked up. Granted it was convoluted at times but I'd take a story like FFVI's anyday over the new stuff (hence why I really like Lost Odyssey)

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I still maintain that VI was the last "real" FF. And once the price drops on LO, I'll be all over it.

Lunars, Xenogear, FFTactics, Vandal Hearts, Suikoden and Vagrant Story

No Kartia love in here? For shame.

Wasabi's list is pretty spot on. I'd just swap FF 7 & 9, dump Wild Arms, ignore that he called SOTN an RPG and add in Kartia & Dragon Warrior 7 toward the bottom.

I just want to say that while it is a very good game, Suikoden II is overrated.

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I just want to say that while it is a very good game, Suikoden II is overrated.

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I agree. The first is better.

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I cannot bring myself to finish Suikoden II. I got so bored, which sucks because any time it's the story being advanced, it's awesome. Every other time it's terrible and I can't bring myself to care. I'm at the part where I'm going to the Toran republic, due to the way you gain XP in such an insanely awesome fast manner, random battles always feel like a chore because two or three random battles means you'll be up to where you need to be. Yeah it's great for catching up characters, but once you hit that exponential curve (though it's a negative curve) for XP every battle is a trip to tedious boring and "God I just want to get to the next part" with no enjoyment.

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This is strange. I'm pretty sure almost every dungeon crawl section in that game can be completed in around or less than twenty minutes, and the campaigns are broken up so that instead of arriving in a new city, seeing a story scene, and then getting marching orders to the new dungeon you're supposed to crawl through, most new locations come with extended storyline sections you can relish in while exploring the cities for a long time with no worries about random battles- Slumming at Muse in the beginning, Enrolling in school at Greenhill, staying in Tinto, etc. For someone who likes RPGs for the adventure game aspects, Suikoden 2 is one of the best designed ones out there. You level up quickly, but since the random battle areas are so short they shouldn't really become a chore- or at least not on the level of most other RPGs. I guess the design works for people who aren't really into monotonous random battles themselves and not people who don't mind random battles so long as they can keep building themselves up.

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I just want to say that while it is a very good game, Suikoden II is overrated.

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Yeah, a lot of people say it's great, but it isn't. I think you're underrating it a little though. It's certainly better than very good, and is almost great, but not quite there. I think the most accurate judgment of its quality would be to say that it is very very fucking good.

Anyone who doesn't give it that specific rating is a fool.

Growlanser is by far the best Playstation RPG. I also liked Vagrant Story.

I'd say Grandia too, but I never played the playstation port.

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I just want to say that while it is a very good game, Suikoden II is overrated.

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Why do you say that? I think it's probably my favourite PS1 rpg as well.

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This is strange. I'm pretty sure almost every dungeon crawl section in that game can be completed in around or less than twenty minutes, and the campaigns are broken up so that instead of arriving in a new city, seeing a story scene, and then getting marching orders to the new dungeon you're supposed to crawl through, most new locations come with extended storyline sections you can relish in while exploring the cities for a long time with no worries about random battles- Slumming at Muse in the beginning, Enrolling in school at Greenhill, staying in Tinto, etc. For someone who likes RPGs for the adventure game aspects, Suikoden 2 is one of the best designed ones out there. You level up quickly, but since the random battle areas are so short they shouldn't really become a chore- or at least not on the level of most other RPGs. I guess the design works for people who aren't really into monotonous random battles themselves and not people who don't mind random battles so long as they can keep building themselves up.




Yeah, a lot of people say it's great, but it isn't. I think you're underrating it a little though. It's certainly better than very good, and is almost great, but not quite there. I think the most accurate judgment of its quality would be to say that it is very very fucking good.

Anyone who doesn't give it that specific rating is a fool.

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Normally I'd enjoy a lot of things like that, the first time I tried to play it I felt the same way and attributed it to the fact I had just blown through all of Suikoden which while it kind of put me in the same area I somehow managed to see it through.

I mean, I plan to get back to it maybe I wasn't really in the mood for RPGs, we'll see. But somehow I cannot get into that game as much as I'd like to. I'll try again some other time.

Actually I had another theory based on the fact I couldn't get into Persona 2 for any real reason that maybe I just can't stand to play through Playstation games :/

1. Dragon Quest 7
2. Star Ocean 2

I wouldn't consider FFT or Vagrant Story as RPGs.

Everything about Final Fantasy 7 sucks.

I agree with the FF7 hate. I just couldn't get into it. Never made it past the first disc.

Grandia, Valkyrie Profile, Suikoden and Kartia are some of my faves.

FFIX is trash. Seriously.

This thread is going downhill very fast.

Psone has a lot of neat rpgs, sadly psone polygons have not aged well at all.

Aside from the more common stuff mentioned, like Final Fantasy and what not, one of the most underrated and underplayed rpgs on the psone was Breath of Fire IV I think.

It really hit on everything I love about a jrpg and it still holds up well today. I love the sprite work in that game.

Yeah, it's friggin' insane.

It's cute when Josh pretends to know anything about videogames.

I was playing an EXCELLENT RPG the other day. It was set in space, and was actually pretty scary! Probably the best plot I've ever seen in a videogame, too.

Then I realized I was just navigating menus on the "Alien" dvd.

I'm kind of surprised at the lack of Front Mission 3 love.

I always wanted to play Breath of Fire IV but never picked it up.

How do you level up and distribute your reward points in Alien DVD? I still can't get that Alien egg out of the Alien vagina to complete the Sany V quest.

You've got to hit "Menu>Root Menu" then "Subtitles>English 1".

Breath of Fire IV is really average. Probably one of the slowest RPGs ever made. I'd say III is the only BoF worth playing.

[Edit]: Haven't tried Dragon Quarter yet.

Is Alundra considered an RPG? I've wanted to play that for years.

Suikoden - The epitome of magicalness. Probably doesn't stand up all that well, but I don't care. It's likely that this won't be played by me ever again - don't want to fuck with the great times it gave me. Still <3 listening to the music, however.

FFTactics - Hated this game at first. I found it much too difficult, but that's mostly because I was used to cakewalks like Shining Force. After a few months of it rotting on the shelf, my little 9th grade self picked it up and again, determined to fuck it up the ass. And that I did. I strategerized nicely, messed around with all the jobs, and built up mah mad skillz4u2c. Had fun. And getting Cloud and Aeris ps. she dies in FF7 OMG was neat. OMG THE MUSIC SO GOOD.

FF7 - Loved every single minute of this. Don't be hatin'. I'd get like only 2 hours of sleep thanks to this gem. Aerisdies.com.

Vandal Hearts - I played this only recently, actually, and it's still fun. Generic plot, but some fun dialogue in comparison to some other RPGs of its time. <3 Konami.

Suikoden 2 - I thought the first was better, but this is still nice. But jeez, it took seemingly a few hours to even get started. Dialogue box after dialogue box after dialogue box after...JUST LET ME FUCKING BATTLE AND DO SHIT. Happened way too often in this game. Music sucked, mostly.

Saga Frontier 2 - Not sure why this game is hated so much. The music and graphics are incredible, and I found the story to be oh2spicy high quality - almost like a really well written children's book.

Wild Arms - Maybe it's the intro, but this game is sexy. I remember some of the puzzles annoying me, mostly because battles were too frequent while trying to compute them. Not only that, but the music during battles was some of the most annoying shit I've ever heard. I mean, ugh:



Arc the Lad - I honestly don't remember much about this series, but I distinctly remember enjoying 1 and 2. 3? I either didn't play it or found it boring. Very Shining Force-like, which is never a bad thing.

Chrono Cross - Worth it for the incredible music and pretty backgrounds alone.

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I can't think of another one. I played Hoshigami, FF8, Saga Frontier, Beyond the Beyond, and maybe a few others for a bit, but they made me want to die.

While we are discussing SRPGs, I like my stats to be simpler, kinda like Shining Force, so in my book Vanguard Bandits and Front Mission 3>the tedium that is Final Fantasy Tactics.
I tried many times, but couldn't get into Kartia or Brigidine.
The Vandal Hearts games were great fun as well. I played through the first two Arc the Lad games, but never got into the third.
My top ten rpgs would consist of the following:

Suikoden 1/2- I like them both equally, and recently started playing through the entire series. I 100% Suikoden, and have started Suiko 2.

Grandia-Is the Saturn version better? Arguably. I've played through both, and though the PSX version had some annoying voices; SO DID THE SATURN VERSION!

Lunar Series- When these came out, the nostalgic ass in me swore the Sega CD versions were better. I played through both versions a few years ago and saw the truth.

Dragon Warrior VII- The graphics sucked. Horribly. That did not stop me from wasting weeks of my life on the game.

Wild Arms 1/2- While most would consider these second tier at best, I had more fun with them than I did with any of the Final Fantasy games on PSX; which you'll notice are absent from my list. I hated FF7 before it was cool to hate FF7. In fact the whole reason my Sega Fanboy Ass bought a PSX was for FF7, so I went in with good intentions.

Guess that's only eight. Oh well.


How about a list of the top ten ok rpgs that no one plays
Granstream Saga
Azure Dreams
Legend of Legaia
Koudelka
Shadow Madness
Tales of Destiny 1/2
Thousand Arms
Torneko
Chocobo's Dungeon 2

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Is Alundra considered an RPG? I've wanted to play that for years.

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Not really, it is more of a Zelda type game. But it was good. Heard 2 isn't so hot but I have not played that one.

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Arc the Lad - I honestly don't remember much about this series, but I distinctly remember enjoying 1 and 2. 3? I either didn't play it or found it boring. Very Shining Force-like, which is never a bad thing.

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. I played through the first two Arc the Lad games, but never got into the third.

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OMG WANNA MAKE OUT?

The third Arc the Lad was the only good one.

I enjoyed my playthrough of Granstream Saga honestly, I thought it was a fun game and the multiple endings while based only on the final choice of which girl you want to live with was a good note to end it on, adding it's own special moment that I'll never forget. Don't know if I'll ever play through it again.

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The third Arc the Lad was the only good one.

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Thus proving I was correct in my opinion of it.

BoF IV wasn't that bad. It had its entertaining moments and some fun boss fights. The switching system also helped make combat engulfing. But it doesn't hold a candle to BoF III. Its story was engrossing and even the side quests were fun.

Xenogears is #1. Great characters, epic story, really interesting world. Disk 2 haters be damned!

Wasn't it disc 3 that people bitched about? I agree Xenogears is brilliant. #2 after Suikoden II.

[Edit]: Guess not. Google says it only had two discs. Too many games fighting to be remembered in my brain...

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It's cute when Josh pretends to know anything about videogames.

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Shut your bitch hole. FFIX was boring.

FFIX wasn't all that great. Nonetheless:

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It's cute when Josh pretends to know anything about videogames.

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truth (re: Joshs statement).
While I won't go so far as to say Square lost it's magic when the world went 32 bit, I will say that it did when it came to Final
Fantasy.

It used to be my number one hobby. From NES to MGS2.

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truth (re: Joshs statement).
While I won't go so far as to say Square lost it's magic when the world went 32 bit, I will say that it did when it came to Final
Fantasy.

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Except you'd be wrong since VIII is the best one.

Beyond the Beyond :D

VIII's outlandish story was fine, it was the horrible system that ruins the game. Worth a playthrough but never another playthrough.

IX was very charming in it's own right and had some of the most amazing cut scenes ever. If you don't like the chase scene in the castle at the beginning where Dagger jumps off the tower while swinging across with the cables then it's time to reasses your standards, or step aside because your opinion is about as desired as Compass's insane amount of attention and stalking behavoir towards the chick in his avatar.

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Except you'd be wrong since VIII is the best one.

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On the contrary, I think you've illustrated my point better than I ever could have.

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Except you'd be wrong since VIII is the best one.

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Wow, just wow... Compass and I agree on something.

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Compass's insane amount of attention and stalking behavoir towards the chick in his avatar.

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???

IX's cinemas were amazing, I'll admit to that, especially the ending.

to call VIII the best one is purely nuts. It took every cliche out there and threw it into one game with the most psychotic story ever. It was fun at the time but to say it's the best FF is lol worthy. Unless you're excluding XII, IV, V, VI.

lol, there's nothing here. j00 = pwn3d.

Or X. Why everyone hates X? I love X. Screw the haters. X for president.

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OMG WANNA MAKE OUT?

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ysplz!

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to call VIII the best one is purely nuts. It took every cliche out there and threw it into one game with the most psychotic story ever. It was fun at the time but to say it's the best FF is lol worthy. Unless you're excluding XII, IV, V, VI.

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Whatever, man. The story was totally awesome (minus the we're-all-from-the-same-orphan part). The subtle time loop at the end is very haunting if you give it some thought. And the Junction System ruled because of the level of customization it allowed.

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Or X. Why everyone hates X? I love X. Screw the haters. X for president.

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http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1209750888

X was horrible. Everyone sucked except Rikku.

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Whatever, man. The story was totally awesome (minus the we're-all-from-the-same-orphan part). The subtle time loop at the end is very haunting if you give it some thought. And the Junction System ruled because of the level of customization it allowed.

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Don't forget the ending. Best ending in any game ever.

<3 Meg Ryan (well, the MR 10 yrs ago), so that's a plus.

I'llcumoverandtweakyournipplestilltheyrehardandputmyarc3diskonthemandspinitlikeaprope ller.

very strange, there is no space when I try to edit, but there is when I submit. QUIRKY!

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Triple Triad alone > XII, IV, V, VI.

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VIII sucks but Triple Triad was awesome. Triple Triad Online for PSN or XBLA, please (with added rules that fanmade projects like this added).

Triple Triad was the best part about the game, at least we can all accept that. But it's good to invalidate your opinion by suggesting that it is better than IV, V, or VI.

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I'llcumoverandtweakyournipplestilltheyrehardandputmyarc3diskonthemandspinitlikeaprope ller.

very strange, there is no space when I try to edit, but there is when I submit. QUIRKY!

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Let's solve this mysterious space enigma.

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Triple Triad was the best part about the game, at least we can all accept that. But it's good to invalidate your opinion by suggesting that it is better than IV, V, or VI.

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Final Fantasy VIII is better than IV, V, or VI.

SOMEONE GET CKA ON THE PHONE!





IS KANO STILL ON IT?






CAN'T WE AFFORD TWO LINES YET?!

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Final Fantasy VIII is better than IV, V, or VI.

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I can see why you quit playing video games.

I don't like fantasy. I prefer science fiction themed stuff.

Alright, that's a fair point, IV V and VI had their sci-fi stuff but not as in depth as VIII.

I remember.. I think I remember anyways, the futuristic city in VIII being pretty cool.

Popolocrois II is the best PS1 RPG. If you haven't played it, you're missing something really great.

I thought VI and VIII had very similar settings when it came to techno-industrial trappings. VI had more of a steampunk vibe though.

And it was stupid, and I never gave a shit about anything in it.

Suikoden II is better than Final Fantasy VI. In fact, I think it may well be the best 2D rpg ever made.

Xenogears had a totally awesome plot filled with all kinds of crazy references, but the battle system was awful (every second attack is pointless because it does no damage and just charges up your mega-long combo that gets super boring after you've seen it 800-900 times) and the encounter rate only exacerbated that. I could put up with it in the 32-bit era, but it killed Xenosaga for me.

That's definitely your opinion and nothing can be said about that.

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Grandia-Is the Saturn version better? Arguably. I've played through both, and though the PSX version had some annoying voices; SO DID THE SATURN VERSION!

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Oh, but Saturn version also has more detailed visuals, better framerate, and lacks the Sony USA censorship job.

But you're right about Nishihara Kumiko/Sue. I can't stand her no matter what she does. Loved the rest of the cast though. <3 Hidaka Noriko/Feena