Why? We have never had any issue using cars commuting in the winter, ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Netwurked
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Why? We have never had any issue using cars commuting in the winter, ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Netwurked
I walk to work.
Yeah, she's awful, its the first 15 seconds any Ron and Fez listener will get though.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
That and 4/AWD doesn't have to mean body-on-frame monster truck that gets 11MPG either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinista
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Originally Posted by Rich
So how much do you pay to fill a tank of gas? (In us$)
That is not something that can change back overnight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
Or ever, most people who live around me (burbs) have at least a twenty-thirty minute commute to make, and I doubt many of them are moving any time soon.
Me too, I work across the street from my house.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
Well, technically, young people out of college could move into the city.
But for this to happen realistically, contractors would need to buy, clean up, and build new housing inside cities. No one is going to want to live in a shit hole. Especially if they want kids. Zoning laws would probably need to revert back too. We'll have to go back to building things close together.
I don't have a car in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakidski
But if I did, the correct answer is "less than if barrels of oil were traded in British pounds." Even though gas is more expensive in Europe, the $10.60 it costs for a gallon in the UK would be ~$21 a gallon if the pound was $1:£1 instead of $2:£1.
Really, $4 a gallon isn't bad in the States.
I can't wait to get home on Saturday. WHEEEEE
Considering most jobs are centered in financial districts in big cities where housing is ridiculously expensive, consider yourself lucky.Quote:
I walk to work.
I work 1 mile from my place. I've lost a lot of weight due to this job. So, I get Cardio and I get a work out ... working at the Garden center. Trees, stones, mulch, etc. Oh and I get a farmers tan too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samba De Amiga
Biff, weren't you the one in the last gas price discussion who told everybody to stop bitching about gas prices and to make more money?
supply and demand my friend. and 3.79 here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
Yeah because I can afford a Park Avenue apartment with no issues. I mean it's only 4 million dollars a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash!
I pay 156 yen a liter.
Stop whining.
Damn
1.483248 in U.S. dollars, I <3 google.
Coming in at a little over $6 a gallon.
We've been spoiled fucks over here in the U.S., sheltered from all that other shit happening around the world. At least we're not going through a drought and require the importation of water like they do in Spain.
I was in Spain a few weeks ago and all the fountains were turned off and they wouldn't serve tap water.
When did you become Mexican?Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
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Originally Posted by Drewbacca
A little difference between 2.30 and 4 fucking dollars. Really Drew?
I'll sell them some water for 4 dollars a gallon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
Pls blv.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinista
Your ass is sliding on ice whether you have 4WD or not. Big vehicles just get you through piles of snow easier.
Every winter you see 3 SUV's in a ditch compared to one car. That's a given.
qft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
i hate SUVs. the people behind the wheel never seem to be able to drive or park (SUVs do not go in compact car spots, they shouldn't take up two normal parking spaces, and they shouldn't be parked at an angle where their bumper is flush up against my passenger-side door!). they always pull up so damn far at a stop light that you can't see around them to make a right turn. they are stupid, pointlessly big, gas-guzzling idiot-machines. people shouldn't have bought SUVs in the first place and i don't feel sorry for them when they're on the news at the pump complaining about gas prices taking them broke. i can only hope this gas spike renders SUVs extinct.
</ SUV-rant>
but yes, these gas prices suck.
how fucking big is the tank on that motorcycle :eep:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Not that big, but when the weight of the vehicle is less than a car. The gas last longer, due to the engine not having to work extra hard to pull all that weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
Last summer it cost $36 to fill up my Corolla. Now it's about $51. Fortunately, because I need to drive for my job, my employer doles out $.25 for every kilometre travelled.
i fill my 13 gallon tank on my jaguar for about 45Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
how is his motorcycle tank bigger then 13 gallons and costing him more then its costing me was the question. not the obvious fact of why a motorcycle has that high of MPG.
I saw $4.69 for regular in Hollywood today at some random ass gas station.
Re-Read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
Please?
why else did he say 55mpg for his motorcycle. He was talking about his car.
Tank in the Goat is 18 gallons and a fill-up is usually 16 gallons. That's the $65 fill-up I was referring to. Should've clarified.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
Motorcycle tank is only 4.8 gallons and fill-up is usually 3.5ish, or $10-15.
Both tanks last me about a week and a half, assuming I use one vehicle exclusively for commute, though the bike does fewer miles in that week and a half of commuting 'cause if I drive the car I end up driving people to lunch. Bike's tank last about 200 miles, car's about 300 (400 if it's all highway).
Needless to say, I'm glad to have the bike since just before gas crept past $4 a gallon here. I'm sure it's partly due to my newness to bikes and tending to notice them more now, but I've seen a lot more bikes and scooters on the roads lately than I have in recent memory. Good way to give the oil companies less money and still enjoy the commute.
You better be putting 93 in that fucking thing. I can't tell you how many yuppy douche bags I've seen with Jaguar's that put fucking regular in it, cheap mother fuckers. Hope they love changing their cats often.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
Premiummmmm, I buy gas in north county while im at school cause its usually 20 cents cheaper up there then here at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
I want a bicycle. Shocker an asian on a bike.
There are a couple stations here that overcharge by $.50+. I have no idea how they get away with it. I've never even seen a car at one of them. But you can drive a block away and get a normal price. What I think is really wierd is I've noticed that gas almost always costs more in the poorer neighborhoods in LA than the well off ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by aren
We don't have 93 in California :( Just weak ass 91.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Though unless your car requires premium (or is "recommended" by the manufacturer), there's no reason to buy anything more than the base. There is absolutely no benefit to putting 91/93 octane gas in a car that's tuned for just 87.
I quote my gas cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
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Word up. Mine says, and I don't quote because I'm not near my car, PREMIUM FUEL RECOMMENDED. It'll run on less, but there's potential for knocking and definitely less mpg and power.Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
Actually 87 doesn't burn as clean as 93, your cats are going to end up dirtier. Plus I've always had sports/y cars. A car is like anything else, the better you take care of it, the longer it'll last you. I only run 93 and always use Mobile 1 for oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Higher octane actually means the gas is more reluctant to burn (requires more energy to ignite). So using premium in an engine not made for it could actually cause it to burn less clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
the sticker on my fuel door says "premium. super unique". Something japanesey like that.
PLEMIUM ONRY perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
That made me laugh ... alot. Good show.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
How high should the price go before people riot? Just curious.
I would prefer that it be a quiet riot.
So the rules change now because you're starting to feel the squeeze? You are the last person who should be bitching about gas. Because you said that, and also you make more money in a day than all of us make in a year, and get more snatch than all of us, and whatever else you were on about when you were spamming the boards 186 times a day, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
51 dollars? What the hell? It costs me 35 to fill up my Corolla CE right now with the inflated prices. Is someone tipping the scales a little bit in their favor to stretch the $.25? And I drive about 80km's to work every day. I just filled it up this morning from almost E (it's not COMPLETELY full but like 7/8's full) and it cost me around 34 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
No it doesn't. A car's engine computer is programed within a set of parameters based upon the behavior of the fuel that it assumes you put in. Running 93 is a car thats designed to detonate 87 doesn't benefit you in the least, emmisions will be exactly the same, as Mark pointed out, octane levels only change how easily a specific fuel will ignite, where the lower octane will ignite easier than a higher one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
The reason premuim fuel exists in the first place is to make more power, you can run a higher compression level or by adding boost to the engine. This creates heat, heat which sometimes can detonate the fuel before you want it too, at the top of the compression stroke of the engine, causing ineffiecient combustion and "pinging" which can damage the engine.
Many newer cars have the ability to use the O2 and knock sensors to determine what type of fuel is in the car, and set the spark/fuel map accordingly, you will get less power, but its not going to hurt anything.
So, the TLDR read of it all, is if your car isn't designed to use the advantages of higher octane fuel, you might as well be lighting a $10 on fire each time you fuel up, it will do the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Wildkat
I tried to explain this to my father in law since all he does is put premium fuel in all his cars (SUVs, whatever) that don't require it. He doesn't listen and believes the higher octane fuel is better and cleaner for the car. Uneducated ignoramus FTL.
I want to feel the noise. You know, so I can bang my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Lol. There are two gas stations on the corner near my job, right across from each other. One is self serve, the other is full service. The self serve is always $.20 MORE than the full service. In my almost ten years of working here, I've only seen a handful of people getting gas there.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Word around the campfire is that they sell drugs or some shit, but you never see anyone going into the place either.
What year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
I completely filled my car to get $51.
Hmm... $34, eh?
What the hell is going on here...
80 km? You work downtown, correct?
I WANT TO SCREAM AND CRY!!!!
I miss the days of paying $20 just to fill up my full tank of gas on my '95 Taurus. Now its fucking $40-45! I'm going to mix fucking bottles of 151 and some other shit.
Fuck it! I'm going biodiesel.
You do know that Biodiesel is going to go for about 4.50 a gallon right?
Word on the street is that you will be like a moving cloud of delicious french fry aroma.... I say, GO FOR IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit
Ha Ha
I <3 French Fries but I don't eat them anymore, maybe this is a cure for my wanton desire for those delicious deep fried taters
<3 taters.
I work in Mississauga. I commute from Ajax every day. 34 right now fills my car like 7/8's up and I get 5 commutes out of it. (one way, so it would take me from Monday morning to Wednesday morning before I would have to fill up before coming home Wednesday night) It's a '99. Nicknamed the Red Baron. That doesn't have any bearing on mileage but makes me sound really cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Mine's a 99 too but lacks a catchy moniker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
That's so weird. $34? I can't explain it.
That commute must be murder.
I work in the North York area. I start at 9:30 just so I can avoid the bullshit 'phantom' traffic. I can only tolerate being stuck in traffic for 40 minutes max. I spent far too many years doing the two-and-a-half hour bus/train/walk clusterfuck.
Hey dude, your fuel gauge is borked (not that most aren't). At $4 a gallon, $34 is only 8.5 gallons and no way is your tank that small. Likely you have a 13 gallon tank and your gauge is telling you it's empty when you have a third left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
i want a tank like the one in back to the future, so i can dump some beer and compost in and be ready to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit
didn't he say it's a toyota? i have a toyota, my parents have toyotas, and i have friends with toyotas, and they all have fucked up fuel gauges. my corolla will tell me it's full then suddenly say it's at half a tank a mile later. then it'll say it's 3/4 full the next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
all toyotas have this "feature."
Are you serious? Oh dear...Quote:
Originally Posted by gir
yeah, it's really true. at first i thought it was just my car, but i mentioned it to my parents and they said all their toyotas have done that. then i was talking to a friend in class and this came up; he was like, "really? i thought it was just my car." lol. i guess it never comes up 'cause people think their toyota is the only one that does it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
otherwise though i love my corolla. toyotas last forever. my dad's old one was held together with rust and electrical tape and the damn thing just didn't die. on top gear they tried to kill a toyota truck; the thing took a lot of damage and was still running. it was funny to watch.
That thing withstood a fucking building exploding below it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gir
Fuck that. I'm going to go to all fast foods and get me oil. Filter out the crap and use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
Even better! Not only will I have a cologne of french fries, but I wont be hungry. The smell will just fill me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
Hell yea! Where is Doc when you need him? Get me a damn flux capacitorQuote:
Originally Posted by gir
I dontQuote:
didn't he say it's a toyota? i have a toyota, my parents have toyotas, and i have friends with toyotas, and they all have fucked up fuel gauges. my corolla will tell me it's full then suddenly say it's at half a tank a mile later. then it'll say it's 3/4 full the next day.
all toyotas have this "feature."
know which is worse...borked fuel gauge or the speedometer on my car. Sometimes, I dont even know how fast im going cuz the needle is bouncing between 55 and 75
Hah! My co-worker has an ancient Corolla that does the same thing. Looks like the need in Gran Turismo when you're banging it off the rev limiter, except he's only going 25. Or is it 35?Quote:
Originally Posted by bandit
I saw a buddy of mine I used to work with as I was leaving the pub the other day. He waved me over to come check out his new ride. It was one of those Mercedes Benz SMART cars. I dunno if anyone has seen them.
LINK: http://images.motortrend.com/feature..._side_view.jpg
Anywho...I think these cars are ugly as hell. Saving money on gas WOULD NOT be worth it to me if I had to drive something like that around.
Yeah, you can save just as much money on gas with a vehicle that is normal human size and just as cheap. Car and Driver averaged 32 mpg in their test of the Smart, and while their averages are typically a few mpg short of what most people will see (on account of them driving the cars like race car drivers) that's not a particularly good mpg. A Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, Chevy Aveo or Honda Fit would get very comparable gas mileage and still be much more practical a vehicle (and for some, better to drive, too).Quote:
Originally Posted by Seik
The Smart would've been brilliant if it was cheaper (sub $10k) and got better mileage (like 50 or 60 mpg), but it's expensive ($12k starting but that doesn't include a/c, think more $14k) and requires premium fuel (no joke). They took what could've been an economical utility and turned it into a fashion statement. That's what you get for your $14k.
Confirmed. I have driven three toyotas (Corolla, Rav4, and Ist... scion xA for non f-chans) and they all had fucked up fuel gauges from the get go. My xA currently gets about 250-300 miles out of the first half of the tank, then you can pretty much see the needle falling while you drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by gir
I would drive the fuck out of that in the city. It looks like a squished xA, which is to say a squished tennis shoe. I like tennis shoes, and parking in that thing would be a joy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seik
My Spec-V does this too, sorta. The first 100 miles that you drive you don't even see the needle move from the Full position, then it starts to move after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Korly used to have this framed in his living room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I didn't read the rest of the thread and don't give a fuck if it's been posted before.
I have a 2008 Toyota Carolla Sport. No fuel gauge problems for me.
Digital fuel gauge FTW.
My digital fuel gauge is my trip odometer.
My Exploder does the same thing. First 90-100 miles of driving, the needle doesn't move off of full. Then it steadily declines as you drive. I found out the hard way that when the needle gets to the 1/4 mark in my 95 Z28; you better get your ass to a gas station quick.
3.73 for regular today. <sad face>
I am going to replace the V6 in my van with a peddle.
At first glance, I thought that said poodle.
Which in all reality, really would be the best option.
Get some work out of those useless fucking animals.
Try $4.09Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Flintstones FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
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Originally Posted by gir
Doubly confirmed. I know my gas gauge is fucked. When I drive out of the garage first thing in the morning I'm at 1/4 of a tank, plenty of gas to get to work. By the time I hit the on-ramp to the freeway I'm down to like 1/8. It's a little ridiculous sometimes. But I've never run out of gas or anything on my commute. And I push the fuck out of my luck some days. I didn't realize it was that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
If I drove downtown more I'd get a Vespa. Free parking in Toronto and cheap on gas. Super gay, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Faggio imo.
Faggio is a Paggio, Vespa is a totally different brand!Quote:
Originally Posted by K3V
My fuel gauge has always been broken, I just keep track by the miles, it's fair enough. If it's less than half a tank (of a 10 gallon tank haha) it says 1/4 no matter what. Sometimes it will hit 1/8th, which I suspect is the same as an e light for this car since it has no real e light. I love how my actual tank is the same size as my boyfriend's reserve.
$3.99 here. I work within 2 miles of my apartment, so walking/biking for the win.
Jesus people, pony up the fucking 20 dollars to fix your gas bobber.
Lazy imo
what car only has a 10 gallon tank?
It's a Suzuki Esteem. Tiny, very basic car, and the tank follows this trend.
Other than the whack fuel gauge. How do you like the car? I saw it at the Philly Auto show. Do you like it? Or is it more like it gets you from point a to b, so you don't really care?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
My xB has a 10 gallon tank too.
I had a repair issue that cost $500, but other than that, I really like my car. It's absolutely tiny, which is great since I hate parking (I get nervous about hitting things, even though I've never even come close before). It's at 156k and I've had zero problem so far other than the A/C and the fuel gauge having creative interpretations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
Mine's really basic (no power locks/windows, etc) but it's been a good car for the $2k I paid. Right now it's great since I get minimum 25mpg in the city, so when I need to drive, it's not bleeding me dry on gas.
Stop, you're driving in an oxymoron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
:lol: ROFL! WOW. TNL never misses a beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
EDIT: I'm not doing too bad here myself. My 92' Saturn gets about 30 mpg (correction), and gas is at $3.67 the last time I checked. I filled up on Monday and I've still got a 1/3rd of a tank left.
You back in the states FX?
Lots of cars only have a 10 gallon tank. My Geotracker also only had a 10 gallon tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
As does my xA.
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Originally Posted by Biff
Its a toyota they are talking about. What you expect to be $20, usually costs about $180.
Not worth fixing. I know how many miles I can get out of my tank.
Shiiit yeah. Damn does it feel good to be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
Welcome back! You here for good?Quote:
Originally Posted by FX
Here's a question. Given the average American income: In an ideal, hypothetical America, what would be a fair gas price?
Everyone is complaining about gas prices, and I'm right there with 'em. But given the above scenario, what would you be completely fine with paying at the pump?
The same as Saudi Arabia. Like 83 cents a gallon.
"Fair"?
Nothing is "fair" about a price. It's what the market will bear. Don't like it? Get your ass to Mars, er, the bike shop, move closer to work, change jobs, take the bus, ride the train, just stop fucking whining that something that's in high demand has a high price.