I Have Been Playing WoW and I Hate Myself

Its really not anyones fault, this shit has happened to a lot of guilds in this game. Endgame just doesn't have a concise Point A to Point B slow burn path anymore and as a result, people just stop attending raids when they either get A) hard, or B) unfruitful for themselves.

25 man raiding for the all convenience it brought to the raiding situation (they used to be 40 for those that don't know), really screwed up the ability for guilds to over stock players and have steady alternates to run whatever instances were necessary for overall guild progression.

I have had an urge to play again recently, but I look at what I used to love to do (Leading Raids) and I feel nothing but pure apathy about it.


Also the gearing up system is just so bizarre now with the Arena gear.

I'm thinking about selling my account. I have 2 x 70's on Alliance PVP servers. Resto Druid and SL/SL Warlock, with about 2k gold between them. Their gear sucks (druid has a nice tanking set, however). I'd be willing to offload it for a pretty decent price to anyone here if they want them. Also comes with a PVE 60 Tauren Hunter, 49 UD Mage, a deadly 19 UD Warrior twink, and lots of other mid level alts.

Check armory for Calako (on Barthilas) and Cakkalo (on Barthilas). Twink is Slopp (on Proudmoore).

Woop woop.

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

Well none of that is a mistake I've been driving pretty hard to get geared.

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Oh I'm not saying you haven't been trying, everytime I've looked at your gear it's been obvious about the effort you've put in trying to upgrade. I was just listing various things pre-raid that could help you get past that under T5 issue. I read that as though you were blowing off things like the starter epic PVP gear despite that while it may not be the leap you wanted it's still an upgrade over some of your pieces, and it's easy to get one or two. Getting more is also easy, but it takes a lot of time and can get tedious.

I just can't get into the post 70 grind.

I'm playing my mage again (char name: cii - shattered hand) and he's at 61.

I really blew past all of the instances with my hunter just trying to get to 70, so with my mage I'm more taking my time and trying to see all of the different instances.

I just don't have the treadmill mentality I guess. :(

Well pvp is fun, and i love it but it requires a certain level of gear to really pull it off well. Entry level is about ~200 resil, plus s2 weapons. That's a pretty high break point on entry level. Having heroic gear helps alot, helps get some resil gear and badges never hurt as well as raising rep (CE/Aldor/Scryer/LC/SSO) help advance a charecter quickly through cash, badges and the odd top end item.

Honestly the fastest way to gear is to run kara/gruuls and do an arena team once you've advanced beyond heroics for gear. So a daily rountine would go from heroics/raids/dailies to pvp/raids/dailies once running instances becomes a badge only affair.

Just play a couple instances here and there. For at least the early 60s it takes about four instance runs per level (with rested xp, anyway), so if you run like two every few days or so it works pretty well. I found grinding quests in Outland to be pretty boring and not something I really want to do more than once.

[edit] This was directed at Kidnemo.

Pretty much.

I haven't seen any instances past Coilfang Reservoir, so I just want to see new stuff.

If you want neat you really should hit the Keeper of Time instances. Lots of lore there and they're pretty exciting stuff. Also very short.

Yea I wanted to see 'em when I played my hunter, but I got drawn into the "zomg need 70" grind.

I <3 the WoW lore.

I've been grinding stupid reps and achievements lately.

I got the recipe for Delicious Chocolate Cake and my Amani War Bear on the same day! Don't I rule?

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Originally Posted by dave is ok

I got the recipe for Delicious Chocolate Cake and my Amani War Bear on the same day! Don't I rule?

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So is V allowed in for more than five minutes at a time now?

Durn is my favorite instance.

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Originally Posted by Detour

selling my account.

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Account is taken :)

Durnhold is very cool. The whole place is nice. Going to south Shore and seeing Kel'Thazad before he fell. And Jaina and all the lore people. Very nice instance.

Currently leveling a blood elf priest on Detherok so I can raid with my friends guild in the fall. Thats all I've been playing now and all I can see playing in the near future this year.

Ran the hell out of SM Cathedral so I could finally get a good weapon and currently running Zul'farak and Maraudon.

So supposedly, they're going to release the WOTLK talents in the next month or two.

Achievements, Inscription, Talents, lots of fun shit

Achievements will be the end of me. AND TALENTS OMFG

Last minute Sunwell imo.

In line with my hetrosexual life partner Tom, I'm selling my accounts.

1st Account

Barthlias, Alliance

Telagar - Human 70 Paladin, 1700+ Heals set, Kara/Heroic Tanking set, Fairly good Ret weapon, if you want to spec him as such (Khorium Champion with Executioner). Think he's got very little cash on him - he's got about 20 BoJ's too, and 13k honour. 375 Miner. Epic Flying Mount also.
Cobble - Dorf 70 Priest, No real gear of mention. Good amount of honour. 373 Enchanter, 370 Tailor. No flying mount I think..
2 Mid level (Hunter and Druid - 42, 45) characters, who have some ace gear. Good for levelling.

Proudmoore, Horde

Felbow - 63 Orc Hunter, almost full Tier 1 (Giantstalkers) - easy to level, and PvP.
Entrerii - 62 Trol Rogue, Solid 60 gear, and nice weapons.

That account has a spattering of shit on it, characters items etc.

2nd Account

Barthilas, Horde

Wal - Undead Lock 70. Only like 3 items that aren't epic. 50+ BoJ's. 375 Engineer, with Epic Flying Mount.

No other real characters of note.

All transfer timers are ready.

Throw me some PM's if you want both/either of the account. I want to get rid of em :)

The guild had it's first full clear of ZA tonight and I was pretty proud to be a part of it considering I've been playing for four years less than people who weren't geared/good enough players to get into the party.

I doubt we'll be doing any tear 6 content before the expansion, but we finally have enough people that when WoLK comes out we should be able to keep up with content while it comes out.

I really just hope this game regains its stature and interesting nature when WOTLK comes out.

Just because it hasn't been posted in a while:

NSHDC

I'm on shattered hand!

I got a new staff for my mage last night.

Horay!

Join Rampant Fronting :(

I even did a /who Cii once last night to try and ninja invite

Must've been too busy with all my serious business running RAMPARTS. :O :O :O

I canceled my subscription for the fourth time today, and I feel free, for lack of a better word. I'm actually in the WotLK beta and am disappointed in it. I definitely have not given it a completely fair shake, but I am getting a strong vibe of too much of the same old shit. Blizzard's insistence on removing attunements and lowering requirements for content has let way too many nine year-olds and grandmothers affect my experience negatively.

As a nine year old grandmother myself, I don't particularly care. If I get to do more fun things without having to play 8 hours a day to get to them, I'm perfectly fine with whatever changes they make.

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Originally Posted by Grave

As a nine year old grandmother myself, I don't particularly care. If I get to do more fun things without having to play 8 hours a day to get to them, I'm perfectly fine with whatever changes they make.

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Exactly.

Setting up a five man instance can be too diddly and time consuming for me, so I embrace the changes.

Maybe with the game being easier and more targeted towards the ten and under set, you won't need to "quit the game four times" to feel "free".

Now all of the other addicted people will be able to play it a bit here and there, have fun, and not have to worry about going to counseling anymore.

Excellent job completely missing the point. You still can't play the game "a bit here and there", but now you won't have any fun because the four hour sessions will be ruined by non-gamers.

I just got Robes of Insight for my lv 45 priest :). My pre 70 wow life is complete.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Excellent job completely missing the point. You still can't play the game "a bit here and there", but now you won't have any fun because the four hour sessions will be ruined by non-gamers.

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lol @ the casual "four hour sessions".

This game is being dumbed down for noobs!

http://ambernight.org/Pictures/south_park_wow.jpg

Nono he was saying you can't jump on and play for an hour, but now if you jump on to play for 4 hours it will be ruined as well.

Hey Yoshi, give me access to your beta account :P

lol

I usually can't play more than an hour or two a night (say, 2-3x a week). Anything that makes it easier for me to play...I'm down with that.

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You still can't play the game "a bit here and there", but now you won't have any fun because the four hour sessions will be ruined by non-gamers.

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So don't raid with retards?

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Originally Posted by The_Meach

lol

I usually can't play more than an hour or two a night (say, 2-3x a week).
Anything that makes it easier for me to play...I'm down with that.

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Thanks for ruining the game fucker.

They're removing the time sinks because on alot of servers your guild has advanced beyond attunements and no one wants to run that shit again. If you're not in within the first 4 months you're not getting in unless you pug that shit. No one wants to pug shit. Hell the gear check fights pretty much should shut out anyone who hasn't run attunement anwyay

I got the Dagger of Bad Mojo off Hexlord tonight, put fiery weapon on it and then flew out to Netherwing Pass to stab Haalum over and over until I hit 350 weapon skill.

Tomorrow I am going to wreck Rhydant's mage in a melee fight.

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

They're removing the time sinks because on alot of servers your guild has advanced beyond attunements and no one wants to run that shit again. If you're not in within the first 4 months you're not getting in unless you pug that shit. No one wants to pug shit. Hell the gear check fights pretty much should shut out anyone who hasn't run attunement anwyay

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Thats how that shit used to work pre-BC actually. There was usually a very small (Barring Onyxia that was a horrific multi-part quest) attunement quest to get in somwhere. The second or third fight of the 40 mans was usually a massive gear check/cockblock and it was enough.

I'm glad to see they've seen the error of their ways, as the newer attunements were completely fucking ridiculous.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/bcattunement/
Attunement flowchart is srs biznss.

They need some variation in the PVP gear. Its retarded how every 70 looks the same.

I'm basically done with this game up until LK comes out. I'm loving how the Death Knights are looking so i'll start one of those. Really though, they should have made it so you can start any class at lvl 55.

I specced frost today for the first time since I made my toon. Cheesy easy mode, christ. At least with fire I had to hit 2 buttons instead of one.

Hit 70!!!
WHOO HOO!
Got my Frozen Shadoweave shoulders. Merciless Gladiators Dagger.
Working on MG head, hands, and pants. Than finish Shadoweave robe and boots.
Still got some Nagrand quest to finish, including the Hero of the Mag'Har line.
I need dat money meh flying mount.

Wellll I've gotten some of my t4 gear. I'm up to about 1600 ap/20% crit/150 hit. Once I buy this next badge piece i'll be up to 1700 ap. Add better enchants (agi/stuff/surefoot/mongoose) and I'll clear 1850-1900 Almost there!

Also last night my guild and I totally wrecked thrallmar. Camped the flight master and surrounding area (trainers!) for an hour until the 4 of us were cleared out by a small raid. Then we went onto dominate AB/EOTS as a team. Go us.

We're a few ZA clears deep and tomorrow is our first go at SCC.

WE finally have enough people to be runnnig 25 mans every Mon and Wed. Not to mention we have a guy triple boxing some shammans to help build numbers.

I looked up TK/SSC/ZA reqs. This seems to be about what people want. The attack power is doable as is the hit. I'm a bit at a loss how to get all 4 of the stats in one charecter without pvp gear (takes forever) or tk/ssc gear. Ah well, guess I'll just pickup another 300 badges and do it that way :(
Health: ~9000+
Attack Power: 1800
Hit: 200 rating+
Crit: 25%+

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

Also last night my guild and I totally wrecked thrallmar. Camped the flight master and surrounding area (trainers!) for an hour until the 4 of us were cleared out by a small raid. Then we went onto dominate AB/EOTS as a team. Go us.

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World PVP is pretty much what it's all about.

I wish the ally on shattered hand did more of it.

Go to the Isle. That place is always a warzone.

(I think you need to be 70 to get there)

Yea, it's good times. :D

More attacking thrallmar's is good though.

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

I looked up TK/SSC/ZA reqs. This seems to be about what people want. The attack power is doable as is the hit. I'm a bit at a loss how to get all 4 of the stats in one charecter without pvp gear (takes forever) or tk/ssc gear.

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If I'm looking at the same site you are for those requirements (I just did a Google search right quick and found the exact stats you posted) that guy says he's also talking some badge gear and counting buffs, so your loss at figuring that out is pretty much spot on. Odds are the badge gear you're looking at for yourself is the T5 equivalent stuff, so you're kinda skipping ahead in requirements anyway.

With my DPS gear (and specced for it) I'm at around 1777AP, 26% crit, and like 100 or so +hit. Not bad for an off-spec, and I'm even using the shittiest pants available (gooooo Savage Plate) and some terrible bracers and belt. Speaking of which, I really need to start running H Mech again for the pants since fucking Pallies kept out-rolling me for them.

I'm so glad I got my KARA/TK/SSC/BT/HYJAL attunments done, even if they're all unnecessary now.

I think everyone in this thread should have a character on Shattered Hand Alliance for WOTLK. Get in on the ground floor so you're going through Naxx with us, instead of making us go back to Naxx a year after we've finished it and are currently in AWESOME LAIR.

Definitely not missing the boat this time around, especially since the Death Knight looks so awesome.

I tried reserving the name "Hymen" for my future Blood specced DK, but had to settle for Haima instead.

I have the name Toiletbowl reserved for my DK.

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Originally Posted by epmode

Go to the Isle. That place is always a warzone.

(I think you need to be 70 to get there)

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Yeah but you really cannot pvp solo there unless you're geared. Otherwise someone just charges in and destroys you, I'm kinda relegated to taking out wounded horde.. Outland pvp and town camping is more fun, no one expects it, and denying the horde an entire town full of trainers is fun!

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

Odds are the badge gear you're looking at for yourself is the T5 equivalent stuff.

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This is actually what has made it so easy for me to catch up with everyone, if I just spend my days running heroics I can buy gear that will last me until we hit BT anyway.

So it might be time for my triumphant return to fronting?

I ASSIGNED GARR TARGETS BY HAND TO A BUNCH OF TANKS WITH THE COLLECTIVE IQ OF 100.

NO CHALLENGE IN THE GAME SINCE HAS COME CLOSE.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

I ASSIGNED GARR TARGETS BY HAND TO A BUNCH OF TANKS WITH THE COLLECTIVE IQ OF 100.

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Those were some great days.

Yes they WERE. Then it all changed

There is no way that I am going to level another 70, but if by any chance DK aren't completely overpopulated within RF I'll make one so I can play with you guys.

There will be a million DK's on every server, but it'll even out at 80.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

I ASSIGNED GARR TARGETS BY HAND TO A BUNCH OF TANKS WITH THE COLLECTIVE IQ OF 100.

NO CHALLENGE IN THE GAME SINCE HAS COME CLOSE.

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Good lord this is so true.

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Originally Posted by Despair

Yes they WERE. Then it all changed

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LOL.

Hammer and Sickle (Requires 0 points in Subtlety) - You have 4/8/12/16% chance to lose cape to Rumpy.

Oh shit.

shittyluckwithcapes has entered the channel

that was AWSUM !!!

Carebear to real server transfers are now open, so any of you that leveled in the wrong place can join us.

I'm in the Beta woo

Me too. The deathknight stuff rules.

Both of you just lost posting privileges.

I'm in the beta, but my video card is fried.

God giveth and he taketh away.

Thankfully Trialsword rules and sent me an old Nvidia card that will hopefully be here today. Yawa, you and your girlfriend better get on those transfers ASAP

I'm also in the beta rolf.

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Carebear to real server transfers are now open, so any of you that leveled in the wrong place can join us.

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I am tempted to join you guys. My current guild is really pissing me off.

I MAY have gotten into the Beta, but I'll never know now because I realized today that the email address I've been using with my WoW account it long expired.

NO DK FER ME

lol owned :p

I'm in the beta too and not playing it either.

You'll be back.

And then you'll leave again.

I'd like to say "bullshit", but history is not on my side.

Yeah, you're screwed.

I don't think so this time, but we'll see. The expansion just doesn't interest me this time, unlike BC.

Give it to somebody here who'd use it. Like Myk

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Originally Posted by Chux

Give it to somebody here who'd use it. Like FirstBlood

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We need healers actually.

I can't believe you guys get on the Beta. Is that why when I log on nobody is on!