Sleep Aids

Lately I've been doing a lot better about not drinking at all on certain days, but for me that leads to next to no sleep.
I've tried Benedryl, something comparable to that, and Dramamine, and none of them even made me tired. I used to use Dramamine on the car ride to VA Beach and it would put me out like a pint of Jack. None of these have done ANYTHING, literally, when actually trying to go to sleep.
Last night I tried MidNite (http://www.midnitesleep.com/), and besides getting jolted awake and finally sleeping for a few hours, it essentially did not work.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good sleep aid? I want to stop drinking completely during the week and maybe only have a couple on the weekends, as the new job will entail being awake and ready where my other jobs have not. I got MidNite because it was the only one at Wegmans that contained Melatonin, which my amnesiac friend told me was the only thing that could get him to sleep.
If anyone knows a good solution outside of Ambien (which is fantastic and yet I can't get because it's perscription), please, I'm all ears.

Try not to take anything to induce sleep. Work out, read, play games, poop, jerk off, BJs, whatever that will get you tired so you can sleep naturally. Sleeping pills are poison.

I have had this problem since I was 6 years old. I literally will lay in bed for nearly 2 hours before I can actually sleep, and then I just wake up randomly during the night. A couple shots and I'm out, an Ambien and I'm done, but none of these sleep aid things seem to work. And I will not be able to function on a night shift at a warehouse on that kind of sleep.

Your problem is you can't convince your brain to stop thinking about all the little shit that bothers you.

Clear your mind

While I agree with what you say, if it were that easy for me it would have been done before it started depraving me of sleep in junior high.

I guess a lot of little shit bothers me.

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

I have had this problem since I was 6 years old. I literally will lay in bed for nearly 2 hours before I can actually sleep, and then I just wake up randomly during the night. A couple shots and I'm out, an Ambien and I'm done, but none of these sleep aid things seem to work. And I will not be able to function on a night shift at a warehouse on that kind of sleep.

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I've had the same problem for 30+ years. No solutions, besides the aforementioned few beers, etc...

I've tried OTC stuff and all the things that had warnings about drowsiness never had any effect on me.

For me, it's either a few brewski's or 3 hours of sleep a night. I'll take the beer and the 6.

You can get AIDS while sleeping now?

Print out an IGN review, you'll be asleep by page two.

Stop doing that shit in bed. If you need to think, or start thinking too much, get out of bed and do it elsewhere. Beds are for sleeping, not thinking. Stopping the habit might help you just ease into a normal sleep pattern. I used to do that a lot, and I find that if I really can't stop thinking, I'll go sit on the couch until I'm exhausted. Once I make it back to bed, I fall asleep without the constant brain chatter.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

I've had the same problem for 30+ years. No solutions, besides the aforementioned few beers, etc...

For me, it's either a few brewski's or 3 hours of sleep a night. I'll take the beer and the 6.

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That's both disturbing and confirming at the same time.

I'm trying to get to the point where I'm not drinking at all, if not for a few drinks on the weekends while hanging out with people. So while I know a couple beers or a shot or two will help me sleep, I don't want to rely on them. I also don't want to have to rely on sleep aids.
Then again, I don't want to be a failure at my job because I'm falling asleep while working.

crank a couple off when you hit the sack. not that hard to solve this one folks.

I read the title as Sleep AIDS. I thought niggas was gettin' AIDS in their sleep.

Xanax owns the shit out of me when I need to sleep.

Also, Nyquil works like a charm for me if I take it 40 mins before bed and don't do anything active. I always take a full capfull.

Pine, go to a shrink, I'm serious. I have a buddy who was the same way as you. He "learned" how to shut his brain off and it's worked ever since (as far as I know, we don't really discuss it to be honest)

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Originally Posted by Nomi

Stop doing that shit in bed. If you need to think, or start thinking too much, get out of bed and do it elsewhere. Beds are for sleeping, not thinking. Stopping the habit might help you just ease into a normal sleep pattern. I used to do that a lot, and I find that if I really can't stop thinking, I'll go sit on the couch until I'm exhausted. Once I make it back to bed, I fall asleep without the constant brain chatter.

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I actually like this idea, but I know myself, and if I get out of bed I'm going to attempt to stay up, and if I'm not under the influence of anything, I will stay up thinking/watching/playing anything until it's light outside and way past the point of sleep.

Pine, you are aware this is really bad for your long term health right?

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Originally Posted by Dyne

crank a couple off when you hit the sack. not that hard to solve this one folks.

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Seriously, I made the Stroke thread, when do you think I DON'T do this?

EDIT: forgot to mention that this happened twice before I took my sleep aid and went to bed last night, still nothing.

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Originally Posted by Rich

Also, Nyquil works like a charm for me if I take it 40 mins before bed and don't do anything active. I always take a full capfull.

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I haven't taken Nyquil or tussin or anything of the sort in many years, not goin back unless I absolutely have to (has anyone ever been ordered to take it?)

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Originally Posted by Biff

Pine, go to a shrink, I'm serious. I have a buddy who was the same way as you. He "learned" how to shut his brain off and it's worked ever since (as far as I know, we don't really discuss it to be honest)

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Been to one, not for this, but atm it's not a feasible option. I'd like to go back just to talk to a non-objective party about anything and everything and see if he/she could help with this, but it's just not in the cards right now. I can't pay for it, and my parents are struggling with my dad's hospital bills at the moment.

Have you tried Rozerem? It's not a straight up knock you out drug like other sleep aids. It teaches your brain that "this time of the day is bedtime, shut down please" after a while. It isn't habit forming and it has a really nice success rate given that it's not a normal sleep aid. Once you stop taking the drug, your brain will still slowly shut down for sleep at the same time like it should.

You should really see a professional. Sleep is really important to your health.

Do you have sleep apnea? I do, I only get about 4-6 hours a sleep a night. It sucks. Of course a few beersies help immensely but you can't do that shit everyday. When not drinking I read computer books of sort, gets me tired right. Find something to read that gives a good workout on your mind.

Try some Valerian root. It doesn't work for everyone, but it knocks niggas out when it does work.

It's pretty easy to find, too, in drug stores.

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/herb...a/Valerian.htm

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Originally Posted by Nomi

Have you tried Rozerem? It's not a straight up knock you out drug like other sleep aids. It teaches your brain that "this time of the day is bedtime, shut down please" after a while. It isn't habit forming and it has a really nice success rate given that it's not a normal sleep aid. Once you stop taking the drug, your brain will still slowly shut down for sleep at the same time like it should.

You should really see a professional. Sleep is really important to your health.

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I haven't tried that, but the approach seems interesting. MidNite says it's not habbit forming as well, but I may have been so worked up and nervous last night that I wouldn't let it work. I know that at least at one point I was drifting off to sleep and I jolted myself awake for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Netwurked

Do you have sleep apnea? I do, I only get about 4-6 hours a sleep a night. It sucks. Of course a few beersies help immensely but you can't do that shit everyday. When not drinking I read computer books of sort, gets me tired right. Find something to read that gives a good workout on your mind.

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I've thought about this, because both of my grandparents do and I've woken up several times out of breath without having a bad dream or anything, just BOOM can't breathe wake up now. My problem with reading is that I'll get into it enough that I won't stop.
There is a reason I sit on the toilet so much.

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Originally Posted by Rich

Try some Valerian root. It doesn't work for everyone, but it knocks niggas out when it does work.

It's pretty easy to find, too, in drug stores.

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/herb...a/Valerian.htm

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Never heard of it, might have to give it a shot.

So far thanks for all the advice, I need to find something that works for me, and you're all pointing me in some good directions.

I am not one to endorse adding any chemical cocktails to your body.

Try a really shitty, boring book.

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

Never heard of it, might have to give it a shot.

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Do it. Take it about 30-40 mins before bed and then lay down and watch some tv. You should be exhausted by the time you're ready for bed.

Laying down with my head on its side watching tv at night makes me tired as shit.

Learn meditation. It can help you shut your brain off and put your body into a relaxed state. A lot of time people have tension in their muscles and don't even realize it. I was hypnotized once and had never felt that relaxed before, but now I can put my body into that state by myself. It generally never takes me more than 5 min to fall asleep.

Have a kid. You will appreciate sleep 10x more and can sleep standing up eyes open.

I would advise you to go get a sleep study done, my father has sleep apnea as well and he has to work a oxygen mask to bed but he told me it was the best thing he has ever done.

I on the other hand had to have surgery on my soft pallet, adenoids, uvula, and tonsils. And I still fucking have it! UG! The mask is next. But think of it this way, my dad didn't have to have surgery at all. Go get a test done.

Try talk radio. It can't be something too interesting, but something that you can listen to that keeps your mind from working. Try news or sports talk.

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Originally Posted by Netwurked

uvula

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Sounds sexy

I have a pretty bad insomnia problem myself. On nights where it's getting hard to fall asleep, I usually go the Nyquil route, and it works quite well. It's not a long-term solution, mind you, but if you do it on several consecutive nights, you might be able to realign your internal clock to a more desirable sleep schedule.

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Originally Posted by stormy

Try talk radio. It can't be something too interesting, but something that you can listen to that keeps your mind from working. Try news or sports talk.

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I do this quite a bit, also. Having talk radio on (at a low level) actually keeps my mind from going to those places that keep me up at night.

I stopped trying to realign my internal clock. Whenever I do it, it always creeps back later and later.

I'm convinced my clock is set at a 2-4am bedtime.

Sadly, that's what happens to me also. I can reset it for a while, but eventually it just wants to go back to its natural state.

Yeah, when I'm working full time and waking up at 7am, I always go to sleep at like 12-130 on sunday/monday, then at like 8-830 on tuesday, late on wednesday, and early on thursday again.

My sleep schedules are so weird.

Since I've been home lately i've been sleeping 230-3 to 12.

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

Have a kid. You will appreciate sleep 10x more and can sleep standing up eyes open.

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I'm not man enough for that yet.

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Originally Posted by Netwurked

I would advise you to go get a sleep study done, my father has sleep apnea as well and he has to work a oxygen mask to bed but he told me it was the best thing he has ever done.

I on the other hand had to have surgery on my soft pallet, adenoids, uvula, and tonsils. And I still fucking have it! UG! The mask is next. But think of it this way, my dad didn't have to have surgery at all. Go get a test done.

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You're scaring me with this shit now, still it's a good plan to look into it.

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Originally Posted by squall_vb

Sadly, that's what happens to me also. I can reset it for a while, but eventually it just wants to go back to its natural state.

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I'm just going to steer away from that one...

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

I'm just going to steer away from that one...

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:lol:

I listen to classical radio or sports talk. It really does help. I grind my teeth in bed. I don't know what to do with that one.

And I've used them all.

1. 500mg L-Tryptophan. Seriously, get some from GNC. It's non-narcotic, it won't fuck you up like Melatonin and it's better than Valerian root.

2. Shenmue

3. Shenmue 2

Nothing works for me either. Sometimes I'm awake for days at a time.

While in Texas I created a mixed drink that contained a shot of cherry nyquil, but that was only for the mornings.

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Originally Posted by Josh

While in Texas I created a mixed drink that contained a shot of cherry nyquil, but that was only for the mornings.

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Shoulda manned up and used original flavor. That shit is HARDCORE.

That was reserved for evenings.

I bought a sound machine that has a white noise option. I crank that full blast and that usually does the trick.

I considered getting one of those, but it could never compete with my window mounted air conditioner that is powered by bees.

I sleep really well with earplugs, the pressure in my ears is comforting and I did that whole association thing, so once they're in I know it's bedtime. Don't need them so much for the noise reduction now that I'm out of the dorms, and after maybe three nights, I got over my whole issue with people snoring.

Having a nice bed helped so much. I used to toss all night with back issues, but this new bed does wonders. I'm actually having vivid dreams for the first time in years, so I guess I'm getting deep sleep for once.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

I grind my teeth in bed. I don't know what to do with that one.

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A mouth guard?

I actually thought of getting one as well, I tend to grind a bit and have some serious dental issues.

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Originally Posted by Gooch

And I've used them all.

1. 500mg L-Tryptophan. Seriously, get some from GNC. It's non-narcotic, it won't fuck you up like Melatonin and it's better than Valerian root.

2. Shenmue

3. Shenmue 2

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The first part is helpful. Shenmue, as boring as I've found it, could never help me sleep.

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Originally Posted by Josh

Nothing works for me either. Sometimes I'm awake for days at a time.

While in Texas I created a mixed drink that contained a shot of cherry nyquil, but that was only for the mornings.

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I just can't do the sleepless for days thing, I won't be able to function at all.
And I've said all I have to say about nyquil.

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Originally Posted by Nomi

Having a nice bed helped so much. I used to toss all night with back issues, but this new bed does wonders. I'm actually having vivid dreams for the first time in years, so I guess I'm getting deep sleep for once.

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I will agree with this, I've slept better on this "new" bed than any one before it, but then again I was drunk a lot of the time.

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Originally Posted by Rich

Try some Valerian root. It doesn't work for everyone, but it knocks niggas out when it does work.

It's pretty easy to find, too, in drug stores.

http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/herb...a/Valerian.htm

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This. I have taken it many times I always get a good night's rest without feeling groggy.

Tylenol PM is nice.

I have had the exact same problem for as long as I can remember, with it only getting worse, this past year especially. I've spent most of the year staying up into the wee hours, or not sleeping at all. Either I can't stop thinking of things going on or I want to work on my projects. In fact, I've been up all night reading on the web and working on pictures. Although doing a lot of activities does help, most of the time I can't get out as often as I would like. I haven't tried sleeping pills, but having a few drinks is one of the only ways I can guarantee an early night sleep.

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Originally Posted by cigsthecat

Tylenol PM is nice.

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I went to this after NyQuil stopped being effective. Monday I started using nothing and hating life, however when I wake up from my few hours of sleep I'd feel much better than when taking anything to help me pass out.

Shit sucks, but kick the habit when you can.

nyquil hangovers are no joke.

If you drink coffee, tea or cola at all during the day cut it.

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Originally Posted by ElCapitan

I have had the exact same problem for as long as I can remember, with it only getting worse, this past year especially. I've spent most of the year staying up into the wee hours, or not sleeping at all. Either I can't stop thinking of things going on or I want to work on my projects. In fact, I've been up all night reading on the web and working on pictures. Although doing a lot of activities does help, most of the time I can't get out as often as I would like. I haven't tried sleeping pills, but having a few drinks is one of the only ways I can guarantee an early night sleep.

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You need a gf who are we kidding, you want little boys :D

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

You need a gf

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to talk you to sleep or a boredom-filled death

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Originally Posted by burgundy

to talk you to sleep or a boredom-filled death

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don't be so jaded until you are married, then yes on both accounts

Is there anywhere where you find yourself falling asleep? I mean are you ever lying on the couch and falling asleep even though theres no reason, or sitting on a lazyboy? I find sometimes that all I need is a more comfortable sleeping position. Then again, when the brain wants to go I have to let it, and I either suffer through a night of no sleep or I get up and deal with what it is thats on my mind, even if its something as simple as writing out a plan for dealing with the problem/inspiration.

Imovane (zopiclone)
Halcion (a classic)
Jerking off (free)

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

If you drink coffee, tea or cola at all during the day cut it.

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Nope, nope, and only sometimes, aka when I drink and therefore sleep is no problem.

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Is there anywhere where you find yourself falling asleep? I mean are you ever lying on the couch and falling asleep even though theres no reason, or sitting on a lazyboy? I find sometimes that all I need is a more comfortable sleeping position. Then again, when the brain wants to go I have to let it, and I either suffer through a night of no sleep or I get up and deal with what it is thats on my mind, even if its something as simple as writing out a plan for dealing with the problem/inspiration.

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I've tried this before and had mixed results. Every now and again I'll go into my brother's old room and sleep on his waterbed which he didn't take with him, and that seems to help a bit. But only for a night or two.

two glasses of red wine does it for me

and I have to disagree with dakidski. after jerking off I usually get real excited and want to go talk to people.

"Always greets you with a warm smile and a firm handshake, that one."

Sleep deprivation is the best sleep aid.

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Originally Posted by arjue

Sleep deprivation is the best sleep aid.

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Seriously. Set the hours you're allowed to sleep during, and if you miss them too fucking bad wait until the next day. No napping either, that shit is for women, and grandpa.

Get yourself on a schedule and don't be a whiney bitch about it you fucking victim. Poor you. Boo hoo.

Its true.

Them some hard sayings.

So what's your cure for puncuality? I was going to punctual this year, but so far I'm about five months late...

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So what's your cure for puncuality? I was going to punctual this year, but so far I'm about five months late...

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Originally Posted by Josh

Get yourself on a schedule and don't be a whiney bitch about it you fucking victim. Poor you. Boo hoo.

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This is apparently the answer.

Also I wasn't asking for sympathy for not being able to sleep, just asking if anyone knew a good way to get there since I can't seem to. While a schedule is good and fine, if I miss that mark and attempt to stay up all night when I have to work for 12 hours the next day, I don't believe being sleep deprived would help. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

I have to disagree with dakidski. after jerking off I usually get real excited and want to go talk to people.

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For real? Must be the endorphines that work as a high on you...

I fell asleep the other day after an hour long session of hand love, and yet at night when I went for the encore it was no dice (and by that I mean I couldn't sleep).

Doc and I share similar traits it seems, besides being hairy.

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

This is apparently the answer.

Also I wasn't asking for sympathy for not being able to sleep, just asking if anyone knew a good way to get there since I can't seem to. While a schedule is good and fine, if I miss that mark and attempt to stay up all night when I have to work for 12 hours the next day, I don't believe being sleep deprived would help. Just saying.

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Yeah but it equalizes out. For example, you tell yourself "I have to get up at 6 in the morning". at 6, no matter how little sleep you got, you force yourself up. You'll go to work very tired and have a shitty day, which will make you more tired, so you're more likely to get to sleep the next night, maybe earlier than usual. if you get more sleep than needed, then the next day you won't be so tired, and will naturally stay up later. Eventually you find your equilibrium and sleep for as many hours as you need (which despite popular belief is not 8 hours for everyone, at 8 hours i'm well into my next rhythm) and wake up at the time you want.

this does indeed make sense, as much as staying up that late and going to work would blow a cock full of asparagus chunks. I've been going back and forth this week between that one sleep aid I bought (the MidNite bullshit) and having a couple drinks, and for the most part it's been working fine.

As for tonight, I did not drink, did not take any sleep aids, and have not slept a wink since 12pm yesterday morning/afternoon. I worked today and am pretty beat, but I have the feeling that since it's nearly 9am already I'll be up until tonight when I normally go to sleep.

Get up at the same time each day. Thats all. Don't be a bitch about it.

I think you're an alcoholic. When you don't drink your body gets upset and doesn't let you sleep. Seriously.

Stuffing fake shit into your body isn't the route to get back to healthy sleep. I endorse Rozerem because the entire point of the medication is to NOT have you be chemically or psychologically dependent. If that doesn't work for you, you need to stop shoving shit into your system and just be the boss of your own body. If it's time to sleep, let it know. Stop feeding it shit and getting your brain hooked on the need to try stuff in order to rest.

As you guys know I work shifts that vary. Sometimes I start at 4 am, sometimes I start at 2pm, and sometimes I start at any hour in between. I naturally like being awake at night, and I like to sleep during the day. It's weird but that's how it is. When I close, (shifts ending at midnight) I'm up til about dawn or so. When I open (shift starting at 4) I generally get a little less sleep but fall asleep after I get home, quickly, for at least a few hours of napping before falling asleep around 8pm-midnight.

I sleep when I'm tired and I get up when I need to, and if I didn't get enough sleep I drink some coffee and finish my workday and then go to bed when I'm tired. I can function well on as little as 2-3 hours of sleep, I've discovered, and I can function capably on under an hour of sleep. I've gotten very good at waking up whenever I need to. No matter when I go to bed or when I get up I am up about 5 minutes before my alarm. It's bizarre, but awesome.

I'd try a sleep aid on my weekend just to see what it's like, but generally feeling drowsy when I don't want to sleep just pisses me off based on other medications I've taken for disease.
My trick to fall asleep is to watch rips of sporting events on my computer, especially teams or sports I don't care much about. I was watching the racquetball championships the other night on espn3. That shit puts me right to bed. As long as I get into bed I have no trouble falling asleep...but I don't always get into bed when I should because I am awake.

Anyway if you guys are lying in bed and can't fall asleep I suggest to all of you to put some kind of sport on and close your eyes and listen to the absolute mind-numbing dialogue that is sports commentary. It provides rudimentary imagery to occupy your mind and a whole host of useless boring information and conjecture that puts you to sleep.

These days I like to listen to podcasts when I go to sleep. Stuff You Missed in History Class is perfect for this.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1296570840

Yeah you gotta get the sleep HIV first. /20th time joke made in thread

I tend to just stay up drawing lately. I go to bed when it's done. Luckily there's a couch next to the computer/drawing table, so I can basically just fall over instead of crawling back upstairs.

I tend to drink one beer, masturbate till I break a sweat, then fall asleep shortly after.

Rub one out, that doesn't work, rub a couple more out! Sleep follows! Assured!

When the dick gets tired, the brain follows.

I generally try to get rid of distractions when I sleep, unfortunately nearly everything distracts me when I'm trying to sleep. We have a white noise machine for when we sleep but I don't think it helps all that much (but I don't think it hurts either). I feel like I sleep best from early-late morning but that's probably because of my work schedule and inconsistent sleeping habits. Even when I'm very tired, if I go to bed early (for me, that's anywhere from 10pm-12:30am) I'll wake frequently. Any particular ambient noise (like the fire department siren or loud passing cars) will trigger this thing where I can't stop hearing the sounds for the rest of the night. The most frustrating thing is when I hit that first level of sleep (where your brain and thoughts get all dreamy but you're not really sleeping) and something brings me out of it, it's usually another hour or two before I even start feeling tired again.

Oddly enough, alcohol induced sleep is usually the best for me and I don't feel tired the next day. I don't drink anywhere near as much as I used to but the only time I look forward to trying to go to sleep is when I'm drunk. Sleep aids work sometimes (like benadryl, NyQuil, Tylenol/Advil PM, generic over-the-counter sleep aids) but more often then not, I feel like they stay active in my system for way too long and will leave me feeling groggy until the afternoon. Even when I get a good amount of sleep and have to wake up somewhat early, I'll usually have a spell during the day where I feel unnaturally tired only to be followed by super energetic, hyper wakefulness.

I think my internal clock is just whacked out. I can fall asleep in the middle of the day sometimes when I'm not tired and I always used to fall asleep in school. I should probably exercise more and try to get on a better sleep pattern but it's hard when I get in from work well after midnight sometimes. I'm starting full-time school in the Summer to go along with my full-time job and will probably be mad busy all the time and that should help a good bit too.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

two glasses of red wine does it for me

and I have to disagree with dakidski. after jerking off I usually get real excited and want to go talk to people.

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Originally Posted by Doc Holliday

I tend to drink one beer, masturbate till I break a sweat, then fall asleep shortly after.

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You can't have it both ways.

LOL fucking post history

BUSTED

Hahaha. I don't sleep well anymore when I drink. I usually wake up after 4 hours and can't go back to sleep.

Last year I went from waking up at 3pm to waking up at 6am by doing what I said earlier. Took about 2 weeks for my body to get completely into that rhythm, but now I don't even need to set an alarm.

I finally read the title as Sleep AIDS.

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I finally read the title as Sleep AIDS.

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http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1296570840

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I haven't re-read this thread in a long time, but did anyone ever try Melatonin pills? I have a bottle of em at a really low dosage (3 mg), but I generally don't like pills. I've been told they just slow down your thinking process so that your brain isn't thinking a billion things while you're trying to sleep. Any help?

I just posted about them in that other thread.

Here:

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Take 6mg of melatonin and and 500mg of Valerian about an hour before you'd want to be asleep. Get in bed and read a book. Wake up early (sux)
Do this for a week or two and you'll end up ok. Seriously! IF I can do it, anyone can.

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Yeah, I have to say that I agree with Josh. Been taking a 3mg of Melatonin and various "sleepy time" teas (w/chamomile, valerian, etc...) and have little trouble falling and staying asleep. Best sleep I've had in years. I used to stay up forever and get up early.

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These days I like to listen to podcasts when I go to sleep. Stuff You Missed in History Class is perfect for this.

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Listen to BBC The World. it's like lullabies for grown ups.

I'll give this a shot tonight, gotta go find some Valerian.

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Listen to BBC The World. it's like lullabies for grown ups.

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"Meanwhile, trade conditions in Southern India have taken a 20% reduction, in recent weeks. In Sport, Moxon McGillian has taken the E.U. Cup, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*"