Oh, so I was right then.
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Oh, so I was right then.
Only in the dumbest, most stumbled-in way possible. Go see that movie, it's a classic!
I can't believe they went back retro-style for this. I was hoping for something awesome after the artwork/design in Mega Man 8.
Oh well.
Megaman X and Zero control like butter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
This game is going to feature the "I can jump 10 feet vertically, but only 3 horizontally" Megaman.
Dash ability pls.
X is slow. and not fun. Worst thing to happen to the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
I feel ya, brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by FX
I just want them to bring Vietnam man back from mega man 6.
Because it was appropriate.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214711652Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
SEARCHMAN WAS FROM MEGA MAN 8 YOU NOOB
...oh, wait. That was political commentary, wasn't it? Sorry.
I was talking about Napalm Man from Mega Man 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Mega Man 5.
yawa, what the fuck are you going on about? I think your train of thought has been derailed.
http://the-nextlevel.com/board/attac...1&d=1214712862
Nah, he's just in de-Nile.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214713409
I'M TOP MAN GO FUCK YOURSELVES
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214715039
Frog, I think the biggest problem with your revamp of the sprite is that it lacks the iconic nature of the original. By adding in extra highlights into the sprite, you reduced the contrast between the light and dark blues of his outfit, which basically just white-washed the sprite as a whole.
You're right that black lines can be jarring and make a sprite feel clumsy or heavy in certain cases, and perhaps they are implemented unneccesarily in the original sprite, but the touch up you did feels rather flimsy in comparison to the original, due partly to the lack of a strong outline.
You're also right that the original has an inconsistent light source that doesnt accurately create three dimensional forms on the sprite, but I think maybe you're missing the point. The original wasn't really meant to try to make the character feel 3 dimensional, as you tried to do in your touch-up. Your version feels overtly bulbous because the shading is actually a bit TOO strong, and the 3dimensional form starts to interfere with the 2 dimensional reading of the character's design.
I have to agree that the original sprite doesn't look that great to begin with, but I think the right look is probably somewhere between yours and the original.
And one thing I've noticed is that people who are not artists tend to over-rationalize art. They make too many rules without really thinking about the end effects. The thing about art is that its very circumstantial, and what may work in one case may look horrible in another. There aren't really many rules in art, the only real guidelines to keep in mind are that certain techniques will result in a certain effect or feel, and what makes an artist great is his ability to determine what technique is most effective in a certain situation to give the desired effect. Anyone can learn to draw "realistically", but that doesn't make him a good artist.
Sorry if this was a bit of a rant, but it seems Cigs wasn't being too specific on why your sprite may not look as good as the original, so I felt I'd pitch my own two cents in.
That's fine, I was honestly just trying to imitate Mega Man 8's shading with that sprite, and there are a lot of other ways to interpret it, but I was more describing a process and technique. What about the alternate version I made:Quote:
Originally Posted by TaekwondoNJ
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214554835
Which still has strong outlines and minimalist shading, but still anti-aliases its lines rather than just filling in line-art like an 8-bit sprite? I get that there are a lot of stylistic choices you can make, but barelling through with a black and white line art and just coloring it in like a coloring book is probably not the best way to realize that vision.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214719139
imo
I only spent five minutes, but you get the gist.
Mega Awesome, ChaoofMegaNee! icus
!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
What?
Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with this. Granted, sometimes it can work (I for one don't mind the heavy outlines in say, A Link to the Past), but in this case I can see why it isn't very appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
And yes, your 2nd one is definitely a big improvement on the first, though he still feels a bit too frail to me. I personally really like when Mega Man's proportions are really stylized and he has very large hands and feet. To me thats one of the defining elements of the character. That gets kind of lost in both versions of your sprite (particularly in the hands). But thats more a personal preference than "X sprite is technically better than Y sprite."
You actually did a pretty good job for someone who doesn't think he has any artistic talent, and for just trying to demonstrate a point rather than to create a functional sprite. Yet, I can still see why Cigs would prefer how effective the original is over your versions, and I just wanted to explain why I shared his sentiments (though his reasons may be different than mine).
did he fall into a jar of mustard or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
1. I enjoy the thread tags.
2. No voice acting by default.
god bless default ^_^
I didn't bother shading it because it was 2 in the morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
Finch got the joke because he's awesome.
Also, this:
Frog's stance on this definitely takes alot of guts:
http://www.pinkgodzillagames.com/retro/mm.12.jpg
I think we need to leaf this subject alone.
Your opinion has proven to be Vile and full of shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...5&d=1214814932
seriously. slow? Compared to a dash-less Megaman? I think you just say things to play 'Devils Advocate' and be "different" sometimes.
*cough*ironman*cough*
It takes a lot of guts for a journalist to write "alot."Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
You're sure quick to criticize!
http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9...uickmanvb1.jpg
Oh, cut it out.
http://www.geocities.com/techtyrants...nal/CutMan.gif
http://www.brooksinternational.com/i...ve_coulier.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Nash
this is confirmed for both PSN and XBLA as well.
What is the sauce, please, my good man?
Ars Technica. Pretty reputable and all, but it's still not "confirmed" until the announcement actually comes from Capcom itself.
Not confirmed. Site Ars used to confirm it is in no way reliable at this point according to many.
Trusting them is none too bright.
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/im...an-Posters.jpg
Yeah, it's hard to trust the internet sometimes.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/imag...Mm3hardman.jpg
There's just so much junk out there these days.
I, for one, am very happy they're knocking the dust off the old sprites.
This new TNL thing makes me want to cut bitches.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Cut-Man was already used.
Aw, come on now. That's cold, man.
fuck you you beat me to it.
<3 :portalhug:
I just want to make sure this thread doesn't take a dive.
http://www.mmx8.net/info/rockman4/images/boss31.gif
The best part of TNL is how we can still get along despite our differences in opinion. You know, you say to-MAH-to, I say ya-MAY-to.
I think your head is a bit in the clouds, but I love you anyway.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/me...260px-Beat.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by B-Ri
how could you not post a picture of beat? that really burns me up.
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/me...bburnerman.jpg
Relax, man. Don't flip your top.
B-Ri doesn't know how to crash a thread.
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/5...rashmantk1.jpg
Horrid Puns FTW.
He's just showing the gravity of the situation.
http://tenchionline.com/ragey/Cartoo...gravityman.JPG
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gas
He's completely out of his skull.
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Things sure got heated up in here.
What a wily bunch of bastards!
You broke the streak. Go die.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214856425
Quit needling him.
So many shades of truths in this thread.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/imag...m7shademan.jpg
Aw. This was horrible, coming from everybody's gyro-- er, hero.
gyro? that guy's a punk!
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/8/87/Punk.jpg
This thread is just a prototype for the upcoming Mega Man uber thread.
The next MM9 thread will have a tough time living up to the flashes of brilliance in this thread.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/imag...m2flashman.jpg
edit: Fuck, I guess paying attention just isn't my forte.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/b/bd/Bass.png
Don't be in such a rush to post.
So how are you enjoying life in the land of the yellow devils, bbobb?
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/imag...ellowdevil.jpg
Fuck, I hope this game goes retail. I just cancelled my credit card. Can't charge anything :(
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878016 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214878113
Is that character called Retail Man and I just missed something, or did epmode drop the ball?
Charge Man. He bursts in.
http://www.ummagurau.com/writing/vid...te/image51.gif
Mech's got a hold on the situation.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214880669
I'm not following. That's Tengu Man.
Yeah, I'm in the dark about that one too.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/c/cd/Darkman.jpg
Real snake in the grass, that guy.
I wonder how long this will drag on?
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214884436
Untill someone has the guts to lock the thread.
Who would have such a heart of ice?
Someone who works from the shadows.
TORNADO HOLD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Get your head out of the clouds.
Google image search IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280 http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1214886280
Best. Thread. Ever.
Don't interrupt the pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by PBMax
Make a few puns. It's so much fun it's almost magic.
Tengu Man is too metal for puns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Whatever. He's just full of hot air.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...rs/cover-1.jpg
I think this thread has officially jumped the shark.
Nah, it's still the king.
That's cold, man.
Click for full size
You guys are a bunch of clowns...
http://www.ummagurau.com/writing/vid...te/image60.gif
Wow, don't flame us, do you have anything nice to say, ever?
http://www.themechanicalmaniacs.com/...l_Flameman.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpP_BKPa5Oc :lol: I can't believe I've never seen this before!
It's ok. Just roll with it.
http://www.freewebs.com/flynn1978/normal_rollsit.jpg
It is good to see a spark of wit alive and well here at TNL.
Your statement rings true.
http://www.vgfanart.com/nes/megaman4/ringman.jpg
So, uhm... "Wii Exclusive Man" says this game is indeed Wii exclusive. At least, as "exclusive" as Capcom games typically are, meaning it could be hitting PSN/XBLA six months later.
keep drilling for info.
http://a935.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...54af7f3d06.jpg
I hope this springs to other platforms soon.
http://www.ummagurau.com/writing/vid...te/image53.gif
we sure know how to waste time around here.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...10-150x500.jpg
true. Day one, I'm gonna get tanked and play through this.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:...k(Megaman).jpg
I think a lot of us are going to elec-t to do the same, man.
Beats watching the Mets.
http://images.wikia.com/megaman/images/d/dc/Met.jpg
Let's volt on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
ugh pc megaman ftl.
Agreed. That shit was horrible.
