How is a bucket of sugar support? A little bit of water (or ice after a few minutes) can take off the initial edge and allow more of the actual flavor to show, rather than covering it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
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How is a bucket of sugar support? A little bit of water (or ice after a few minutes) can take off the initial edge and allow more of the actual flavor to show, rather than covering it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
I'm both Mexican and Puerto Rican so I know how life is for families in both countries as well as the rest of Latin America, but Puerto Rico is in a special place because it is a commonwealth of the U.S. I still believe it will never become a state until it picks up traditional American values like moving the fuck out of your parents' house when you're of age.
I get shit from my parents all the time because I moved out when I wasn't married and because I no longer pay their bills. My parents and tradition can both lick my asshole.
Tell us more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
lol fixed for accuracy.
The idea here is piss or get off the pot. Dilute the flavour with something that accents it well (ginger or coke), or drink it straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakey
If you add anything, that "accents" it or otherwise, you're still diluting it. You're contradicting yourself. I want the flavor of the whiskey, not support or a cover up. Thinning it slightly does just this.
I usually drink it on the rocks and it's gone before the ice melts, mind you.
How about you guys just stand up and we'll see who's taller. hm?
Yes. And that's exactly what I'm saying. It is not contradiction -- it's the same idea said two ways. If you want to dilute the flavour of whiskey then just use coke or something that makes an entirely different drink and be done with it. If you want to have some whiskey then drink some whiskey straight and don't be a pussy about it. Whiskey's not a timid drink, so don't treat it like it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shakey
Not adopting "American values" is just one of the many things that separate PR from the mainland. People here have a culture that's older than the U.S. itself, and that's not something that can simply be tossed away. Puerto Ricans, like all Latins, are fiercely cultural, and tradition is something that's not just always present, it's embraced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
It's been a pain in my ass sometimes as well, believe me.
But the whole extended family concept isn't just Puerto Rican. Latins love to have aunts, uncles, cousins, and every living grandparent close by. I think that's actually a good thing, honestly. Americans are always whining about declining family values and the disintegration of the modern family unit, and that may have something to do with the practice of kicking everyone out of the house once they're 18.
Eh its this "nuclear family" bullshit. It fosters a strange kind of existence where we're not really family with aunts, uncles and cousins. Even the law reflects this kind of world view (estate and family law). Growing up in a close extended family i just found it perverse.
Sell your kids for a buck. It's not personal, just business.
I'm turning 28 at the end of the year and I've only barely gotten away from my parents' place. I don't know how it is for the rest of the country, but it's just a lot harder in California now with how competitive things are. Despite graduating law school with good grades and nailing the Bar on the first shot, I'm only making approximately $40,000 a year, with no benefits, practicing in a field that I don't even like (civil litigation). I'm only doing it to pay my school loans and bills as I try to seek jobs in fields that I do want to get into, but everyone is looking for like 3-5 years of experience. The shit thing is that if I don't get out of what I'm doing, it'll be the only thing I know how to do, and I end up getting pigeon-holed. So I don't look down on any guy who's busting his ass but still can't get out on his own at 30. Getting away from your parents for the sake of it when you can't financially afford to do so isn't wise in my book.
Not living your life dependant on other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
While I know some members of this board are still in this category and may be much older then myself and can be considered my "e-friends", it's still a natural progression for mankind. You grow-up and then you move out and start a family or start something on your own.
In my own personal view of life, kids are supposed to branch out at a certain age and define themselves as human beings and contribute something to the further survival of the species. If my parents stayed together, my father had planned to kick me out at 18 (which is ironic, now that I'm helping him because of his problems with drug addiction). It was simply how I was raised and I always desired to hold some level of independance that couldn't be taken away from me.
With all that being said, if my current waivers don't go through with the military I will be living on a partial dependance of my girlfriend for several months until I can afford a needed doctors appointment, but regardless, I still work for a living and support myself to the fullest.
And don't get me wrong, if you still live with your parents, good for you, but it wasn't what I was brought up on.
I still think extended familial support is a great thing. You have to wait several months to get a doctors appointment. My parents cover my insurance for me b/c they know I cannot afford it consistently and I get to go see a doctor whenever something bad happens.
Independence is a good virtue but it has issues in a world when a single income family home cannot reasonably support itself.
men don't want to get married because men have no incentive to get married. our fathers and grandfathers had to get married and move out to either 1) get laid or 2) have a place to get laid. we don't.
also, this article was written by a humongous vagina
My father didn't have me till he was 27, his father didn't have his first boy until he was 29, and his father, my great grandfather didn't have his eldest son untill he was 27. This must mean the Hollidays are more evolved.
$40,000 isn't riches, but you could hardly say it's not enough to live on your own. I live in New Jersey, which is one of the most expensive states in the country, and while I was working part time and going to school I lived on about $8,000 or $9,000 a year. For a while when I started trying to live on my writing, it was not that much more than that. If you're working at least 20 or 30 hours a week, you can afford to move out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
I left home the first time at 16 years old with no job. I came back a year later for about a year after my dad died but then my mom just kicked me out again when I was 18 with no job. If someone fitting that description can do it then anybody can. But I don't think it should be required nor do I believe it has any bearing on a person's value to society.
I lived with my parents until I was 28 or so.... but wasn't for free. I gave my parents around $1000+ a month because that was the thing to do, to give back and take care of the family.
Until one day, I woke up and said that's fucking bullshit and I could live alot better and more privacy and way less than $1000/month (and this is back in mid 90s). Moved out and never looked back. Of course, my parents are still pissed about not taking care of them and shit.
can we define moving out? i know a lot of people that have "moved out" but they have room mates (sometimes 3 or 4) or live with girlfriends/boyfriends. i only know 1 person who lives on their own. her place is pretty cheap and the neighborhood isn't that great. so are we talking about living completely alone or just out of your parents house?
i still live at my moms. i'd love to not be here but my financial situation is crap. i'm paying off student loans and some credit card debt. i have a shit job that i do work very hard at. i'm also doing some self publishing but there isn't a lot of money comming in from that right now. hopefully when i get a publisher things will change...but even other "succesful" comic artists i know have to work a shit job between projects or whatever.
i hate how this article kinda acts like there's only one kind of person out there who's living at home. i don't have or feel a sense of entitlement 'cause i have a bachelors. and i am doing the best i can with the situation i'm in. it's just how things are.
I lived completely alone for a couple years from 19-21. I can't fucking believe I let my jackass friend talk me out of that and into living with him and our other buddy. Stupidest thing I ever did. I've been back solo since 2001 and unless I shack up with a totally righteous chick or need to move into a nursing home when I'm ancient, I'll never voluntarily live with somebody else again.
I lived alone over the summer (my roommate was at an internship) and it was really nice. However, he's back, but I can deal with it. Neither of us contribute much bullshit so living together isn't too hard.
yeah. i'd totally like to live on my own, but i don't think i could ever afford to in this area (just outside of DC). i COULD live with friends once i find a better job or something, but i've seen how they live. it's not appealing to me in any way to have to put up with peoples messes, and attitudes and...all that stuff. also, i think i'd turn into a crazy person. i'm kind of a neat freak. i hate seeing dishes in the sink and i can't stand messy bathrooms. if i lived with any of my friends at the moment these kinds of things would drive me up the wall and we would probably no longer be friends.
on the other hand, i too have one good example of some married friends who have a kid. it's totally right for them. and they were very lucky to have found eachother. i don't look down on marriage in any way. and i think it would be nice to have kids some day...but americas attitude towards all this marriage stuff really makes me mad. people don't even seem concerned with how happy you'll be. JUST GET MARRIED BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE! and all the shit about divorce rates being up. whatever.
oooh....it's funny that no one ever mentions the fact that back in the day it was much harder for a woman to divorce a man. i mean...people were in some fukked up abusive relationships with dead beat dudes/terrible fathers....and they couldn't do a thing about it. they'd just go out and act like their home life is just fine and dandy.
The good 'ol days.
$40,000 a year isn't much in California, which is probably the most expensive state in the country. Take away taxes, rent, car insurance, health insurance, at least $600/month for my $80,000 student loan, cell phone bill, gas, other miscellaneous bills, a little bit for the savings account, and I'm not left with much. I couldn't even think about starting a family right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Yeah, I tried to touch on that. If you isolate the stable years after divorce leniency laws went into effect, it's really gone down if anything. It's just bullshit news pandering and whatnot to make everyone think marriage is a crumbling institution that nobody believes in. People still get married, they just do it two or three times now. Big fuckin' deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by rama
Yeah, but things like a car, and an apartment to yourself without roommates are luxuries you can live without. I wouldn't live at home because I felt entitled to those things. Hell, I don't have them now even though I'm making enough to afford them at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
you really shouldn't be making 40K, that's just not enough to pay for your degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
Tell me about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
is it just a terrible market there? you could probably make $100K in a monkey job in NYC, but you'd probably need to be admitted here.
it's one thing if you're being super picky about location, hours, type of practice, etc.
Yeah, it's mainly a bad market. No one is hiring entry-levels/first-years; everyone is looking for at least 3-5 years experience. I've been looking up and down the entire state as well as various fields of law, so it's not me being picky. I've gotten several interviews, but they always end up going with someone with more experience. I just want to get out of civil litigation right now. I can't stand it and don't want to be pigeon-holed into doing it for the rest of my career.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
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Originally Posted by Frogacuda
the car thing really depends on where you live, though. some areas have very bad and unreliable public transportation. and i never thought of living alone as a luxury before. but i guess it kinda is seeing how much you'd have to pay to live alone in some areas.
i've been thinking about moving out to texas once i can save up enough money. i know a few artists who've lived out there while working on projects since the rents are so cheap in some areas. though, i dunno if i could stand the heat.
Texas is the asshole of this country. You can do better.
Texas trades Rama for Doc. Hmmm...
also fuck you josh
Whatever... you know I'm right.
Baltimore.
When are you moving joto?
This seems to be a universal of any field you get into. I've heard it from everyone from teachers to lawyers to programmers. True in my field too. I've been turned away from plenty of good interviews because of experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
I guess if you're a nurse or a researcher in an in-demand field or something, it's different, but it seems like the market is just really competitive in general. Partly the economy, but I also think it's just an over-educated populous.
Where were you two months ago? I asked you if you wanted to move because I was serious and you never gave me a response. I got a gig in NYC now so I'm not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Razor - Oh sorry, dude. I thought it was clear I couldn't move till Nov.
Everyone else - I can't find what I did with IRC.
I'd lack to add "lazy stupid management" to that list of "why."Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Isn't that the goddamn truth. I've been spending weeks, shit, months now fishing for a job in VA, DC, Baltimore and New York and nothing. Not even an interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I'm thinking about doing substitute teaching for Christ's sake.
You're almost guaranteed a position at the old paper I used to work for if you don't mind working in North Jersey.
I'll get back to you on that if what I'm doing falls through.
*Edit: It will.
not to undermine ramon on a subject where he has more expertise, but when my girlfriend was searching for a reporter job some years ago, it seemed to be tough to find a position in places a 25-year-old would want to move to like boston, nyc or jersey. but smaller papers in rural redneck areas were falling all over themselves to find anyone.
given the whole "newspapers are a dying industry" sob story, i don't know whether that's true, but as with anything else, the less tied down you are with your home, your relationships, etc., the wider the scope of your opportunities grows.
I think you need an introduction to Hawaii.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
this is true. Some people forget that location also plays a part in demand for any product be it physical, or labor.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
I came close to applying for a job as an editorial assistant in Waynesboro, VA but I mean...Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
http://content.answers.com/main/cont...Waynesboro.jpg
Come on! The only good thing would be that it's about 30 minutes from Charlottesville where... all of my UVA friends have graduated and moved away from.
Then again, at the rate I'm going....
www.mirc.com and DL the client bitch. We need more folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
most of the experience you'd get will be starting from the bottom of whatever field you specialize in. and you could (hopefully) work your way up through shit positions so long as your job has some potential for growth and you can get promotions or whatever. takes a while, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
a couple of summers ago i aplied for a job as an art teacher for summer camp. the guys REALLY liked my work and said "we'll train you and everything for the job 'cause we'd really love to have you." about a week before the job started i got an e-mail saying that they couldn't hire me...'cause i didn't have any previous experience working with kids. well...where the hell do i get experience working with kids? heh, and you can't even say stuff like "well...i get along with kids" 'cause it doesn't even matter.
no one wants to train a fucker anymore unless they plan on keeping you for long projects.
I'm in training right now and I'm only here 6 weeks.
waynesboro is a hole even by bumblefuck virginia standards. you should be able to find plenty of tail in c'ville and harrisonburg though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
But I went to school in Harrisonburg and I don't wanna go back :(
Mr. K: Jacksonville, FL? The Florida Times Union gets decent circulation in the area, and Jax is pretty cheap to live in.
a friend of mine does photo tech work and some illustrations for a paper in fredericksburg. how 'bout there?
Well, what are you doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
cock fighting
This is extremely accurate. If you want to work in butt-fuck Sask or Manitoba, you're sure to get a decent reporting gig. They'll let you do everything (write, snap photos, layout pages). But everyone want to work in Toronto. Consider yourself lucky if you land a position.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
I lucked out with two straight jobs in Toronto. They should really go to someone who deserves it, though.
I am of the impression that most papers out in the sticks are going to pay you like McDonald's money, though.
Prosecutors and public defenders are often hiring, if you're willing to work out in the boondocks where the turnover is so high. Not talking SF/LA, so much as smaller counties. And the pay's better than 40k. and what law school?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
True. But the cost of living there is relatively lower than the city as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
and it's not with chickens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkino1
exactly
I live beyond my years. I'm wearing suits now. Suits.
Suits.
:lol:
I knew it was going to be ZZ Top before I even hit the damn play button.
:tu: :)
Razor needs a charcoal pinstriped three button suit.
pics or it didn't happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I haven't done ANYTHING yet. Any bets on whether or not I can get through the entire 6 weeks without doing any work at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff
I didn't do shit for months when I worked at a non-profit organization. It is such a joke.
Well now we know why they were non-profit!Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
You're working at a not for profit hospital, that's a sucker bet. Make yourself usefull and find the nitrous tanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Start cooking, you'll never have problems finding a new job. You won't make much but if you work hard and stay diligent, you'll one day be a chef and then you'll make some decent money. You'll never be rich, but you'll provide an in-demand service and may one day make a world-wide name for yourself. It's one industry that education doesn't really mean a thing (though can help, depending on what path you take).
I warn you though, cooking is like cocaine sometimes: you wish you never started but you can't stop.