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I played some Sonic CD today, the first time in years, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Why does everyone love this game so much? The spin dash is all messed up, the levels are far too cluttered and the music really ain't all it's hyped up to be. Before you say it, I'm talking about the Japanese soundtrack here.
Really what's with the hype? I'll gladly take the Genesis games over it, well maybe not the first. Am I missing something?
It's a SEGA game, of course its gonna get hype around here.
I own the game, but I've never played it. I too want to know why people like it so.
i liked the bonus stages the best out of all the sonic games. they were the only ones i could beat without throwing the controller :)
I liked it, but since I'm not a big Sonic fan, it doesn't get me all that excited. The past/present/future thing was a nice twist, but it's essentially the same thing you've played in Sonic 1-3. I have all the Genny Sonics, Sonic CD, as well as both SA on Dreamcast, and the Genny ones all seem the same.
Truth be told, my favorite Sonic game is the first Sonic Adventure. It was different enough from all the other Sonics that it made me want to play it, but it still had that Sonic flare and style.
I may get bashed for that, but as we say in Spanish: que se joda.
I didn't like it too much either. Everything seemed scattered haphazardly and I had no idea where I was going (other than to the right). Maybe a few more days with it will change that but...
Um, maybe you should try playing it and you'll find out! :pQuote:
Originally posted by Kinopio
I own the game, but I've never played it. I too want to know why people like it so.
ps. My favourite bonus stage was definitely Sonic 1. I wish they made an entire game around those trippy mazes. :)
Sonic 3 + Sonic & Knuckles = best Sonic game
Yeah, I've always kinda wondered why this game is so revered.
Here's a tip the manual doesn't bother explaining, though: You need to destroy both a big machine AND a hologram of Metal Sonic in each "past" zone. THEN you can go to the future of the zone to see the "good" future rather than the "bad" one.
Is there a point to doing this? Doesn't seem to be. :/
I got Sonic CD and all the Genesis ones, and I have to say that I like part 3 the best, although Sonic and Knuckles is pretty cool as well. Sonic CD is okay, it definitely doesn't suck.
Yep.Quote:
Originally posted by Johnny
The spin dash is all messed up, the levels are far too cluttered
I'd take any of the Genesis Sonics over it. It's OK, but I was expecting more from the cries of "best Sonic ever!"
Really?, is there all that much hype for SonicCD?
I've only encountered a few people that rank SonicCD over a Genesis instalment.
Personally I found SonicCD to be my favorite; after the original, because of the mission based exploration. The game retained the simple play mechanics of the first, without introducing any new equipment for Sonic. The addition of time travel required that players became familiar with the cluttered levels, so that a proper section could be utilized to get up to warp speed. After extensive play a sure fire 'speed pocket' could be found in every level; such as being juggled by a verticle conveyor or rebounded by two opposing bumper jets. After all the exploration that is required to get to the Past and Future, find MetalSonic, and the other Robotnic contraption in every level the levels are familiar enough that they no longer seem obstructed at all- at least I don't recall them seeming cluttered.
Like Super Mario Brothers, there is so much to strive for in discovering the levels of SonicCD. I was satisfied to think I'd seen it all after playing it regularly for months after release. Maybe 3 years ago I played through and got misdirected in the underwater Past level, a current pushed me through a wall and I made it to a room with a statue that began to shower coins onto the floor. Though I can't play it today with a broken SegaCD, SonicCD has always offered me simple pick-up and play gaming while providing challenge and interest enough to continue to want to find more within the levels.
is there a point?!, you're kidding!Quote:
Here's a tip the manual doesn't bother explaining, though: You need to destroy both a big machine AND a hologram of Metal Sonic in each "past" zone. THEN you can go to the future of the zone to see the "good" future rather than the "bad" one.
Is there a point to doing this? Doesn't seem to be. :/
That is the point of the whole game- Destroy the big machine to save the future. The best ending is your reward of course.
I recall the real trick is that the holo-MetalSonic will disapear if you destroy the big machine first. So a champ player must know the levels well enough to get the holo-MetalSonic before the big machine.
And in the underwater level, the easiest warp to the past drops you right on top of the bigmachine- so if you're using that route, I suggest try finding another.
Oh yes, the ending that has about five seconds of footage different than the regular one (IIRC ;). Hardly worth it, IMO. But I guess if the fun is in the journey... it just wasn't for me.Quote:
Originally posted by el dodo
is there a point?!, you're kidding!
That is the point of the whole game- Destroy the big machine to save the future. The best ending is your reward of course.
I liked it in that it was like Sonic 1, had the same feel, but with a few more layers to it. The bonus levels were nice, the music was great (The US soundtrack is great too in its own right). It is indeed my favorite of the Sonic games but not in every way.
The PC version has different cinemas than the Sega CD rev, I think. Unfortunately, it also has MASSIVE slowdown. The redone American tracks don't help any.
The whole point of doing the time travel was to clear the stage of enemies and get the good ending. Nice idea, but didn't add to or lengthen the game.
Sonic CD is a decent game, but it isn't the best Sonic game out there.
All the Genesis ones were better. Much like that Knuckles game on 32X, Sonic CD relied too much on gimmicks (in this case, time travel) to make up for an average game.
It's more the accomplishment, knowing you did it. Like getting the second handle on the rocket in SA2, or finding every Chaos emerald (yeah, it gives you a nicer ending, but doesn't have to be done). The little things and the big things, pulling them all off, it feels nice for some of us.Quote:
Originally posted by BenT
Hardly worth it, IMO. But I guess if the fun is in the journey... it just wasn't for me.
Chaotix' gimmick was terrific. IT would have been a great game if not for the most bland, repetitive and uninteresting level design conceivable.Quote:
Originally posted by Ashod
All the Genesis ones were better. Much like that Knuckles game on 32X, Sonic CD relied too much on gimmicks (in this case, time travel) to make up for an average game.
Sonic CD is usually a favorite for those who prefer Sonic 1 to Sonic 2 (I don't know which I prefer... Sonic 2 was definately missing something, but it also had some nice levels and good challenge).
Other than the theme song, what is the difference between the Japanese and the US soundtracks?
Sonic CD is damn fine. I'll take Sonic 3 and Knucklesover it anyday, however...
I don't think it was the best sonic ever but it is definitely better than most of them to me. The time travel made the game longer than usual, making the usually quick and pretty sonic level designs a thing of the past. The US and Japanese versions have completely different soundtracks. Most people prefer the Japanese version; I like the US music better. All those voices and whatnot in the Jap music got on my nerves, and it just didn't sound right while playing the game.
All the redbook audio in the game is different. That means everything except the past time zones has different music. Both soundtracks have their moments. I uses a mixture of tracks from both soundtracks, actually.Quote:
Originally posted by Zerodash
Other than the theme song, what is the difference between the Japanese and the US soundtracks?
Sonic CD is damn fine. I'll take Sonic 3 and Knucklesover it anyday, however...
I am not a huge Sonic fan myself. But I do own all the Genesis ones, SonicCD, Sonic and Knuckles, and Sonic Adventure 1. I have never played Chaotix so I can't comment on it. But of all the Genesis Sonic games I still fell that Sonic 1 is the best Sonic. All the others are just WAY to cluttered up. The level design makes little sense half the time. SonicCD is by far the most jumbled Sonic I have ever played. They could have made the game a lot better if they did not try to cram as many platforms and loops into the level as humanly possiable, and just make it clean and naturaly difficult. Sonic 1 IMO has a nicer level design and is more enjoyable then the others. I don't hate the other Sonic games, they are just not as fun as the First.
Plenty. Totally changes the feel of the game IMO.Quote:
Originally posted by Zerodash
Other than the theme song, what is the difference between the Japanese and the US soundtracks?
BTW, all the "Past" music in the US version are really weaksauce remixes of the "Present" music in the JP version.
But the first doesn't have the SPIN DASH!Quote:
Originally posted by Clash_Master
I don't hate the other Sonic games, they are just not as fun as the First.
Don't get me wrong, I love old Sonic 1 (it was my initial reason for buying a Genesis back in yon olden days), but I thought the spin dash introduced in Sonic 2 was a definite improvement on the first.
I do agree that the levels in Sonic CD are the most confusing when it comes to finding all the secrets, but I always liked how the Sonic games(including the first) had those large levels with multiple paths and secret rooms to find. It's what made Sonic fun( besides SPEED!!!).
That's why you play it in Sonic Jam boy'o!Quote:
Originally posted by deathwishkersey
But the first doesn't have the SPIN DASH!
The past music is the same in both versions, becuase it isn't Redbook CD audio. They only changed the recorded track. All the stuff done on the FM chip (namely, all the past music) is the same in both.Quote:
Originally posted by Freeter
BTW, all the "Past" music in the US version are really weaksauce remixes of the "Present" music in the JP version.
All this talk about cluttered levels,..
Once you get good at the game there is really no problem, because you know where to go and how fast you can be moving at a particular section.
I'm not a fan of Sonic2 or 3, so that may explain my tilt toward SonicCD. SonicCD was; and is, the true Sonic sequel.