Election Thread 2016

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Originally Posted by Josh

Fence riding pussy, perhaps.

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Nah, it's just that the candidates are all terrible but I'm fucking awesome.

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Originally Posted by Type Ryan

You can take the quiz here.

I know, but based on all the responses to my questions my position on the chart was left-of-center libertarian. Hell, even I apparently agreed with some of Cruz's and Trump's policies (and about half of all the republican candidates' policies), but those were on the economic side. I'm a social liberal, fiscal conservative and a big issue for me right now is climate change and how we're going to deal with it. The fact that republicans don't believe in climate change, or at least the majority don't, makes me shake my head in disbelief. How can you deny science? My own Tea Party brother who works on weather satellites (has been for over 20 years) doesn't believe in climate change. He thinks it's some liberal financial scheme to rip people off and control the population. What. The. Fuck?! To show his ignorance, I asked him if he would believe in it if a republican brought up the idea, and he didn't answer. He won't even recycle because that's a "liberal thing" according to him. Also, when he hears words like compassion, altruism or empathy, all he hears is "liberals, socialists, liberals, socialists, etc." Logic has gone bye-bye in his world. 'Tis quite sad.


And Josh, you may be mellowing out in your old age. 10 years ago I don't think that red dot would even show on the graph ;)

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I'm trying to figure out how we got to the point where the American Republicans are considered "fiscally conservative." Wouldn't a return to the traditional Keynesian economic principals that our economy was built on be conservative? And a push to unproven Austrian school economics be liberal/radical? Just because social conservatives align themselves with these policies doesn't make them "fiscally conservative."

Also:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1454598369
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1454598369

It's simple: conservatism = conserving property = keeping money where it is = keeping everyone else in their place.

I love the irony of people deep into the libertarian half questioning economic freedom.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I'm trying to figure out how we got to the point where the American Republicans are considered "fiscally conservative." Wouldn't a return to the traditional Keynesian economic principals that our economy was built on be conservative? And a push to unproven Austrian school economics be liberal/radical? Just because social conservatives align themselves with these policies doesn't make them "fiscally conservative."

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The opposite of Keynesian is Classical, which is essentially a synonym for "conservative," "traditional," etc.

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You've got to be fucking kidding me...

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...that's more like it.

There was no "Ted Cruz is a creepy scumbag and I would never vote for him" option. That has to be the reason.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I love the irony of people deep into the libertarian half questioning economic freedom.

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It's not really ironic. Being socially libertarian is different than being economically libertarian. People can be any combination of the two. That chart seems to use left/right for the economics side.

I understand the quadrants, but being a social libertarian and not an economic one just reeks of "I want to be able to do whatever I want, but I want someone else to subsidize it."

edit: Or, maybe even better, "I don't want the government in my business unless it's taking care of me."

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Originally Posted by Andrew

There was no "Ted Cruz is a creepy scumbag and I would never vote for him" option. That has to be the reason.

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That's how Hillary is at 52% on mine too. It's just their views on issues. It ignores the fact that Hillary wants to be President solely to personally benefit.

edit: This thing is also dynamic. Somehow Rubio dropped from 93 to 92 on mine without me doing anything.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

That's how Hillary is at 52% on mine too. It's just their views on issues.

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Details, details.