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How do they take it seriously?
It would seem that you would have to profile or invade their privacy to gather data on the nut jobs. They aren't going to do that. It's just to 1940s germany.
And why do Muslims do this? Why move to a foreign city, then segregate yourself and not assimilate?
It seems like the underpants gnome way of planning and they are at the question marks.
The only logical endgame is a takeover. Their country is shit. They blame (somewhat rightfully) the West. They move to the West. Let the radicals take over the government by force. They now have a decent country (until the radicals turn it to a dictatorship and wreck the economy via sanctions).
The West needs to do a better job of attracting Muslims and selling the ideas which drove the West's progress, capitalism, democracy and secularism. It's the only way to bring peace to this shit situation. Islam needs to condemn it's own violence and do so by an undeniable sense that CDS is a better life.
I wish Trump would do this rather than Bologna Walls and god damn religious based immigrant databases. How does that bring indifferent parties to your side? All that is is an advertisement for IS.
No, religious fundamentalist need to stop sucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
There are plenty of Muslims already in the US that get "it." They came over here, become engineers and doctors, make good money, provide for their kids, watch cable, some movies, go on trips, etc. They get it.
Democracy and capitalism can't do anything with fundies, christian or Muslim. The free exchange of capital, ideas, social mobility is fundamentally opposed to cultural movements that refuse change and use violence and social pressure to control their own people.
The thing is you can't control people. You can't make fundies do what you want. You can however strip their support away by being more appealing. That is what the West is failing at and why fundies have the support they do. We need to raise our favorability rating to the point the masses, the money, the leaders are motivated to turn their backs on fundies. And all it takes is being a better role model and salesman, understanding what they want and communicating how CDS is the way to achieve that.
Speaking of favorable: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/22/politi...llary-clinton/
Fuck favorability ratings. When evil rears its head, you annihilate it, period. There is no other solution. ISIS should have been wiped out completely when they were exposed on that damn road.
So, we should kill the CIA? We're basically responsible for ISIS.
You're not wrong. It depends on how far you follow the root causes back, but in terms of what we can do right now or in the future, there's only one answer.
What more is there to do? Western culture is as nice as it has ever been. You can pretty much hop over here, get a visa or something, get a job and have what the majority if us have. It's a little harder than that in practice but not much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Seriously, what more can we do?
The bigger issue is that our foreign policy is dicks and their leaders are dicks. We could be the best people ever and it wouldn't matter because the perception is that our leaders are dicks and that their super amazing leaders will save them.