You really have comprehension issues. Getting guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them in no way means banning guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
Regulation =/= banning
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You really have comprehension issues. Getting guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them in no way means banning guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
Regulation =/= banning
Well IP, without reading the passage or "between the lines" you would disagree with this:
And we've got to get guns out of the hands of people who should not have them
I mean, by definition of the words I don't think you can disagree with that. Now you may disagree with who should and shouldn't have them, but if someone is "rightly" identified as "someone who shouldn't have something", then they probably shouldn't have said thing, no?
Also, I don't know how anyone would prefer Pepsi. I can drink it, but it sucks, pretty much.
Meh.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
I've read a lot of people on this. A lot of liberal commentators and the like. And I am convinced that they all would be quite fine with guns being banned. I think HRC would be quite fine with it as well.
Which is ok. It's her right to believe that. But the skepticism is, IMO, quite warranted. I really only started thinking this when Dems started peddling the "no fly no buy" shit.
Define who should and shouldn't have guns?
It reads like classic gun banning/regulating racism. You guys choose to ignore it, but gun banning and regulation has always been rooted in racism. The very first regulation lists were a response to the black panthers (google it before you flip out. It is well documented).
For her to make that part of her response. and then the very next sentence be about black men shooting each other harkens back to her previous comments about "super predators". Its borderline racist garbage. It implies that if black men were just less violent and would stop shooting each other then the cops would stop shooting them.
You're being dishonest. In a legal sense, regulation often translates into functional banning. Like the regulation of clip size under Bill Clinton translated into effective bans on certain sizes. The regulation of machine guns translated into the ban of machine guns made after a certain date. Etc. And as in Dif's example, the no fly list would translate into certain people being banned from buying or owning guns with no ability to defend themselves in a court.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Seriously, this is some of the most racist shit anyone has said publicly in response to current racial tensions. She isn't talking about taking guns away from terrorists. She's talking about taking them away from young black men because she thinks they are violent.
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And we've got to get guns out of the hands of people who should not have them.
The gun epidemic is the leading cause of death of young African- American men
Well who do you think is shooting young black men (besides cops?)
It's not that difficult. Have you been convicted of a violent crime? No gun for you. After that it's a matter of how much firepower does a person have a right to own. Hunting rifles are fine. Pistols can serve a valuable role in self defense. Assault weapons are excessive. Buying enough ammunition to supply the battle of the Somme for a month is excessive. Thinking otherwise is just pigheaded stubbornness about your rights vs the rights of society.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Society doesn't have rights, you fucking fascist.
In practice they really arn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Error
1. Assault weapon is a made up word.
2. The guns often called assault weapons are actually gun standards. Like the AR15, which is a gun platform that can be modded into everything from an old man hunting rifle to something that looks like a weapon of war.
3. The only people that buy assault weapons are pudgy white guys that leave them in closets beside that US made fender they bought because they thought they'd learn guitar but it was hard and drinking craft beer while playing dark souls was easier.
Them goddamn CIA crackers in blackface!Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
The question was about easing racial tension. Don't get distracted.
I will not support taking rights away from a racial demographic because middle aged white cops are scared of them. Had anyone else said and implied what left her mouth, they would have gotten a second asshole.
I don't like gun culture just to be clear. But I don't think the government has a place to define what is and isn't "excessive" any more than the government has a place to define "hate speech" and prosecute people for it. It's about these freedoms being more than words on some old paper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Error
Of course there are limits. But those limits must meet a very high standard. Free speech limitations have to meet that standard. Thing is... banning "assault rifles" does not meet that standard because assault rifles are rarely used in crimes. So you're handing the government a lot of power for really no reason other than you think this one thing is bad.
They're all made up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
It is a made up political word, dingus
As opposed to all of the other, pre-made words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
(Not arguing, just lolz.)
EDIT: Damn it, TNL cache. Much love to icarusfall for getting there first.
Trump's already laying the groundwork for post-election whining by suing polling stations for doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Other reports indicate the the majority of voters at these polling places were Hispanic and that Trump's campaign wants all of their votes - thousands of them - discredited. Good luck with that.
Come on, it was a solid joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
I am all for banning guns, be it water, air, bb, whatever. Just don't ban G1 Megatron.
And free kung fu lessons under Obama care.
The testing, and labeling is really quite useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
G1 Megatron is already banned. The only way Hasbro could even make a gun megatron was to turn him into a stupid Nerf gun and paint him like a retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/...lassicstoy.jpg
I'd appreciate it if the testing and labeling was more standardized, honestly. Something like the nutrition labels on packaged food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I ate a lozenge that put me in a goddamn time loop a few weeks ago. Too strongk!
question for CA (and others!) voters:
So, the pot thing. Is the whining by people wanting to vote No because it forces some of these companies to regulate their wares justifiable? Like, will it truly hurt joe schmoe or are potheads just mad that they don't want their precious pot commodified by the man, man?
/edit also, if we legalize today, can i buy a weed lollipop tomorrow?
It is up here. It's fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
2018 probably, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Satsuki
Anything that makes pot a 'less arrestable' thing is inherently good. It's California, it's not like this is going to be the last word on marijuana ballot initiatives.
You can buy a weed lollipop *today*, go get that Green Card.
Journo at Trump Trial:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1478637653
In other news:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...1&d=1478637653
Question: Why do your polls close so early?
Yes, as sad as it is, he is on the no fly list.Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanX
/pol/ is flipping it's shit.
So they are being reasonable and normal?
Trump is such a thin-skinned little bitch.
God damn I can't wait until today is over with. Fuck this election forever.
Yeah @josh and yeller, I don't want to have to either impose on friends or do sketchy shit to pick up anymore. I want to be able to pick out my sativa and my indica strains for what I need, tighten up my baked goods recipes, shit like that. I never know what anyone is holding now, mad inconsistent, and I can't just drop in and pick up on my way home. It's a fucking circus. All my reliables dried up when I hit 30. Also I don't want to you j ow, get arrested. Once Christie is out I'm sure nj will legalize quickly. The state needs a cash injection and the shitty casinos in the meadowlands plan they have is not the answer. I'm honestly surprised they haven't thought to legalize and tax it in Atlantic City at least. That might have helped actually revitalize that sad place.
I voted. My vote for pres probably didn't count for anything. MS will go red like it always does.
But I also got to vote against a fundy anti gay marriage judge and vote for a black democratic judge with a lot of experience. Maybe that will do some good.
xoxoxo
Seriously. If I'd known he was going to lean on the whine button so much I'd never have given my approval for him to run. Sorry, everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by No One
u dun goofed
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...108-story.html
Active shooter.
Florida gonna Florida.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/trum...tmd4E.facebook
That's not racist. That's delicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander
Yes it does. How much it takes without social approval is fascism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
FEAR AND LOATHING
Feel the Johnson in Monroe County PA
LOL You're a bad Canadian.
According to PBS Trumps ahead ATM in Ohio, N. Carolina, and Florida w 30-40% in. Whaaat? Trump seems to have some hefty momentum.
You guys.
NY Times right now (9:35pm) says that Trump has a 53% chance of winning it all.
Even if he doesn't, and I don't think he will, I hope this sparks some major soul searching in the media and pollsters. They were saying HRC had a 80%-90% chance this morning.
I've got the live NYT map on the computer, with CNN on the iPad.
If he wins Florida, shit is very real.
Man...
59℅ chance of Trump winning?
Trump Train Coming Kiddies...
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/tnl/att...chmentid=79688
He's gonna win Florida. Probably Ohio.
The real surprise is Virginia... but it looks like Hilldawg will probably pull that one out.
How the hell is this close? I don't get it.
Rural Jurors.
The government controlling the media and the FBI does not bode well with the proletariat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
I hate rural America
They hate you more.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Hey guys, guys... where's Yeller & Cal?
these results so far suggest that I may in fact be able to see the end times with my own eyes
This country is way more white trash than I ever dreamed.
Being wrong somewhere else on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
I just bought a pack of cigarettes for the first time since 2004.
I think you underestimate the force of 4chan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Or more specifically, 4chan's ability to manipulate white trash.
I would have never guessed so many years ago that Anon would eventually influence elections. At least I'll have that to comfort me when The Rapture comes.
Join us.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
I am so fucking stoked for Trump v. Kanye 2020.
86% Trump on the NYfuckingTimes projection.
Trump is at 86% on NY Times.
This is like a 65 point swing from earlier this morning.
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Originally Posted by NY Times Liveblog
jesus christ
Hillary must be cursing like a hillbilly by now.
She has a gun in a page's mouth to help her breathe.
91% NYT.
Those percentages are clickbait bullshit, right?
Please tell me it's bullshit
Of course it's bullshit, but it's a barometer of what's happening.
cka, how's Canada? It's looking pretty nice from this side of the border.
Omg.
Canada is great if you like shit jobs, ridiculous housing prices (yes crazier than U.S.), and even higher taxes.
I've accepted elections past with apathy but the notion Trump can legitimately win is fucking horrifying.
the border is closed sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
edit: border update!
http://i.imgur.com/x0hZLvF.gif
This guy is winning.
It's really weird to know that, personally, I'll probably come out of this fine but as a nation we're pretty fell fucked.
well ain't this a bitch
Maybe it's for the best. Maybe we truly need to hit absolute rock bottom and beyond before things in this country finally start to improve.
I've been saying it.
I believe it.
I think the story will be that despite what people said about the economy being good, Silicon Valley, etc, a lot of people are really hurting and they feel like the system doesn't give a fuck. I have family in Kentucky and Obamacare ain't doing shit for them. So fuck the system.
HRC made absolutely zero effort to appeal to those people. In fact she called them deplorable. Then brought on rich people like Madonna to shill for her.
So the question is: What would have happened had the Dems nominated Sanders?
Sanders would have won, and won big. The media underestimated how much people dislike HRC.
Yeah I told you guys that back then. I told everyone. Fox News is currently saying the same thing. How very "I told you so."
Also how effective an extension she was for Trumps rage from the primaries.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Duh. Trump won as a populist and sanders was a perfect foil. Clinton is a rich connected wooden unlikeable person who drips with ingenuousness. The class war has been on for a while. Sanders was on it. Simple message, loud, straight to poor white people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
He probably would've won easily. He had a message that resonated with the people that voted for Trump, and he would have picked up typical Dem bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Yes he's a "socialist", but I don't think labels like that seem to matter this election.
Michigan looks like it'll flip D
I feel like we're on the same page dudebro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Question is, will the media acknowledge this or continue to claim it's cause of muh racism.
From exit polls I read Trump outperformed Romney with blacks and Hispanics...
Is it just me or is there a real chance at 269 a piece?
Alright Russia, push the button. Go ahead, we've earned it.
I'll be in my room listening to Radiohead.
:(
I can dig this. If it means neither HvT get the vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams