Capcom fans read this NOW

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Originally posted by Johnny Undaunted
The only way to make sense out of the whole SF continuity is by having a copy of the All About Capcom Taisen Kakutou Games book.

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That's exactly what the majority of that FAQ is based on.

1989 was given as the date in the game, but Capcom has said that FF takes place before SF (and Saturday Night Slam Master as well, I think), and for the dates to match up on the still-ongoing series, FF has no choice but to be pushed back. Gah, there's some other stuff in there, I don't remember it all as I'm still going over it and processing it, but it's all confused and screwed up, that's for sure.

So Zangief invented the spinning piledriver when he was caught in a cyclone while piledriving a bear. Ok.

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Originally posted by MechDeus
That's exactly what the majority of that FAQ is based on.

1989 was given as the date in the game, but Capcom has said that FF takes place before SF (and Saturday Night Slam Master as well, I think), and for the dates to match up on the still-ongoing series, FF has no choice but to be pushed back. Gah, there's some other stuff in there, I don't remember it all as I'm still going over it and processing it, but it's all confused and screwed up, that's for sure.

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The Slam Master series is suppose to take place before Final Fight and possibly before SF1, but that was apparently changed in the translation.

Wow so is it all true? What if the dude translating the book is lying. Can anyone else here read japanese?

I've always wondered what the fuck is up with charlie and how he could die 3 different ways? (I'm thinking it's a conspiracy and bison had him cloned (just like how cammy is a dna clone of bison and how bisons had her put into the british sas, or whatever the actual super turbo ending is) as a trick to lure an angry, revenge-seeking, guile into a trap or something. :D My theory was that the real charlie was probably dead all along but bison just had spare clones or something. And using his Psyco powers he just had memories of the real charlie's mind (which bison extracted using his mind tricks) given to the charlie clones so the clone seemed real and acted real to guile. lol But that's just my imagination.. :D But it makes sense seeing as how there are 'shadow' charlies and what not..)

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Originally posted by GameHED
Wow so is it all true? What if the dude translating the book is lying. Can anyone else here read japanese?

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I can read a bit, but I'm far from being totally fluent.

Basically, SFA never happened. According to Capcom, that was a rush job and the stories shouldn't even be considered into part of the overall scheme. SFA2 replaces all that, and SFA3 comes immediately after. Many endings and battles actually don't take place, they're just filler for the gameplay (like "What If?" storylines), the FAQ covers all that.

As for FF1:

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Why does Final Fight 1's intro state it took place sometime during the 90's? That's Capcom retroactively changing canon again. It should be obvious by the various Final Fight characters' storylines in SFA2 that SFA2 took place after FF1, though. Also, for the latest version of Final Fight 1, Final Fight One, the intro states that it took place in 1989. Which... is STILL wrong. Argh. Until I get further notice or confirmation, I'm going to currently assume that that whoever wrote that intro accidentally used the date that the game was released, and not the date that the game happened within the official storyline, because FF1 doesn't really fit into 1989 at all and contradicts official statements.

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IV. Final Fight 1 (1987. Capcom wasn't thinking about storyline timelines very much back then and thus the intro to Final Fight states it takes place 'sometime in the 90's', but later on Capcom was forced to retroactively change that, sorta like how SNK had to retroactively change Art of Fighting's timeline in order to have it fit in with their King of Fighters series. The latest version of Final Fight 1 now has its intro state 1989... which still doesn't fit. Argh. Final Fight as a game was released in 1989, though, so I'm going to assume that they accidentally used the release date instead of the storyline date, because Final Fight takes place before Street Fighter Alpha 2, and SFA2 takes place in 1988, so 1989 for FF1 just can't fit)

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And Slam Masters does indeed take place before FF1, that was just me remembering it wrong.

What would be really cool is if capcom did a dc/marvel comics-like 'death' of a main character as an ending (say ryu) to peak interest in the characters, then had a revival of that character somehow (maybe have a character similar to Gill who could ressurect him to explain away the old death) and more people might pay attention to the stories. How many times can they say the same thing with ryu's ending? I'm sick of him saying: "The fight is emtpy now to look for the next challenge" blah blah whatever. It's just so boring you know what I mean? This way the bad guys have a chance of beating at the good guys for once (if only temporarily at least) and there is like a real threat and a real struggle to the characters' survival in the series. More people would pay attention to the game and bother trying new characters out to see the endings and it'd even result in the development of more fans (of the characters) as a result. I can't even remember half of the endings in the myriad SF games I've played anymore.(so uninteresting) I know the gameplay is what matters but they should start thinking about the stories too.

Well, part of that is because almost none of the endings have really mattered. SFII's "real" ending is still unresolved, SFIII had no bios and obviously no announced real ending yet, and the Alphas are a huge mess. In fact, the only ending that we really have any grasp on is SF, and that's because it's kind of a no-brainer, seeing as how there's really only one character.

In all other fighting games, announced winners have been told, but SF's are so scattered that it's unlike the other series. Think about it, out of all the SF's, there's really only six total that matter, and there's huge breaks between them and giant leaps among character listings, more in those two areas then any other fighting game series. SF has a giant leap in years and characters to Alpha 2/3, which takes place years before SFII, which loses almost everyone into a whole different story for SFIII:DI/TS.

As opposed to VF, which actually keeps a consistant story but no one cares, Tekken, which keeps a decently consistant story that usually makes sense, MK, which has almost all the games take place immediately one after another and the story ties into everything, and DoA, which only tosses scraps out and fleshes them out less then SF but doesn't contridict itself. And then there's SNK fighters, which all seem to be flowing and work, but I don't know enough about the whole story and everyone in it to really make a judgement call there. I certainly haven't seen all the stories and what's going on for all the games, though I've had tastes of most of them.