if you want to know how the sf story really goes via the official facts n shit, hit up this link.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/misc/f...ghter_plot.txt
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if you want to know how the sf story really goes via the official facts n shit, hit up this link.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/misc/f...ghter_plot.txt
You can't directly link to GameFAQs FAQs from off-site. I think you mean the bottom FAQ here?
That FAQ isn't really that accurate, but whatever.
there was a site that had the offical cannon on it too not sure if its the same as that faq
http://www.tekken.nu/fightermania/sf/sfplotguide26.htm
there you go
Thats ALOT of info.
SF would make a killer trivia contest.:)
There wouldn't happen to be something like this for the KOF series?
i doubt you spent more than 3 minutes looking over that faq(which is the same canon thing that John posted) and just dismissed it like all of these elitist noobs do.Quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Undaunted
blah blah blah blah
From what I read, it seemed to take in as much as they could, though there was vagueness all over mainly due to Capcom's fault. Been reading it, there's so much to take in and go over, I've been skipping huge chunks that don't interest me too much. Quite interesting.
They did screw up on the reason why Street Fighter 2010 got changed, though, but that's so insignificant who really cares?
That was uncalled for.Quote:
Originally posted by MrWhitefolks
i doubt you spent more than 3 minutes looking over that faq(which is the same canon thing that John posted) and just dismissed it like all of these elitist noobs do.
I seen that FAQ before and while it's nice attempt to clear up the confusing Street Fighter continuity, there are some mistakes, but then again, nobody's perfect. For starters, Final Fight takes place in 1989 (according to the Japanese intro) and not 1987, while FF2 is set in 1993, around the same time as the SF2 tournament (Haggar is four years older than he was in FF1). There are a few more mistakes in that file, but I disgress.
Erm, Johnny, you accidently proved his point. The FAQ explains why Final Fight has to take place in 1987 according to what Capcom's said.
Capcom's done lots of retro-rewriting and time placement, and that FAQ goes over all that and why certain things are the way they are and how things should be according to Capcom's latest statements.
1989 is the date given in all of the Japanese versions of Final Fight (it was used way before 1989) and it makes perfect sense with the character's ages and birthdates. And in FF2, it is stated that Guy was in a training. of course, it is also stated that Genryusai was Guy's master, which is later contradicted by the introduction of Zeku in SFA, so I'm not sure. Of course, FF2&3 are never actually referred in the SF games (only FF1), so it seems like those two games neve happened in the SF-universe(Maki's appearance in Capcom vs. Snk 2 doesn't count, since the VS. are nothing but fan-services). I do not claim to be an authoritive figure of everything Street Fighter, so I may be wrong on a few things. In the end it doesn't even matter. Nobody plays Street Fighter for it's storyline and Capcom realized this by the time SFA3 came out.Quote:
Originally posted by MechDeus
Erm, Johnny, you accidently proved his point. The FAQ explains why Final Fight has to take place in 1987 according to what Capcom's said.
Capcom's done lots of retro-rewriting and time placement, and that FAQ goes over all that and why certain things are the way they are and how things should be according to Capcom's latest statements.
The only way to make sense out of the whole SF continuity is by having a copy of the All About Capcom Taisen Kakutou Games book.
That's exactly what the majority of that FAQ is based on.Quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Undaunted
The only way to make sense out of the whole SF continuity is by having a copy of the All About Capcom Taisen Kakutou Games book.
1989 was given as the date in the game, but Capcom has said that FF takes place before SF (and Saturday Night Slam Master as well, I think), and for the dates to match up on the still-ongoing series, FF has no choice but to be pushed back. Gah, there's some other stuff in there, I don't remember it all as I'm still going over it and processing it, but it's all confused and screwed up, that's for sure.
So Zangief invented the spinning piledriver when he was caught in a cyclone while piledriving a bear. Ok.
The Slam Master series is suppose to take place before Final Fight and possibly before SF1, but that was apparently changed in the translation.Quote:
Originally posted by MechDeus
That's exactly what the majority of that FAQ is based on.
1989 was given as the date in the game, but Capcom has said that FF takes place before SF (and Saturday Night Slam Master as well, I think), and for the dates to match up on the still-ongoing series, FF has no choice but to be pushed back. Gah, there's some other stuff in there, I don't remember it all as I'm still going over it and processing it, but it's all confused and screwed up, that's for sure.
Wow so is it all true? What if the dude translating the book is lying. Can anyone else here read japanese?
I've always wondered what the fuck is up with charlie and how he could die 3 different ways? (I'm thinking it's a conspiracy and bison had him cloned (just like how cammy is a dna clone of bison and how bisons had her put into the british sas, or whatever the actual super turbo ending is) as a trick to lure an angry, revenge-seeking, guile into a trap or something. :D My theory was that the real charlie was probably dead all along but bison just had spare clones or something. And using his Psyco powers he just had memories of the real charlie's mind (which bison extracted using his mind tricks) given to the charlie clones so the clone seemed real and acted real to guile. lol But that's just my imagination.. :D But it makes sense seeing as how there are 'shadow' charlies and what not..)
I can read a bit, but I'm far from being totally fluent.Quote:
Originally posted by GameHED
Wow so is it all true? What if the dude translating the book is lying. Can anyone else here read japanese?
Basically, SFA never happened. According to Capcom, that was a rush job and the stories shouldn't even be considered into part of the overall scheme. SFA2 replaces all that, and SFA3 comes immediately after. Many endings and battles actually don't take place, they're just filler for the gameplay (like "What If?" storylines), the FAQ covers all that.
As for FF1:And Slam Masters does indeed take place before FF1, that was just me remembering it wrong.Quote:
Why does Final Fight 1's intro state it took place sometime during the 90's? That's Capcom retroactively changing canon again. It should be obvious by the various Final Fight characters' storylines in SFA2 that SFA2 took place after FF1, though. Also, for the latest version of Final Fight 1, Final Fight One, the intro states that it took place in 1989. Which... is STILL wrong. Argh. Until I get further notice or confirmation, I'm going to currently assume that that whoever wrote that intro accidentally used the date that the game was released, and not the date that the game happened within the official storyline, because FF1 doesn't really fit into 1989 at all and contradicts official statements.
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IV. Final Fight 1 (1987. Capcom wasn't thinking about storyline timelines very much back then and thus the intro to Final Fight states it takes place 'sometime in the 90's', but later on Capcom was forced to retroactively change that, sorta like how SNK had to retroactively change Art of Fighting's timeline in order to have it fit in with their King of Fighters series. The latest version of Final Fight 1 now has its intro state 1989... which still doesn't fit. Argh. Final Fight as a game was released in 1989, though, so I'm going to assume that they accidentally used the release date instead of the storyline date, because Final Fight takes place before Street Fighter Alpha 2, and SFA2 takes place in 1988, so 1989 for FF1 just can't fit)
What would be really cool is if capcom did a dc/marvel comics-like 'death' of a main character as an ending (say ryu) to peak interest in the characters, then had a revival of that character somehow (maybe have a character similar to Gill who could ressurect him to explain away the old death) and more people might pay attention to the stories. How many times can they say the same thing with ryu's ending? I'm sick of him saying: "The fight is emtpy now to look for the next challenge" blah blah whatever. It's just so boring you know what I mean? This way the bad guys have a chance of beating at the good guys for once (if only temporarily at least) and there is like a real threat and a real struggle to the characters' survival in the series. More people would pay attention to the game and bother trying new characters out to see the endings and it'd even result in the development of more fans (of the characters) as a result. I can't even remember half of the endings in the myriad SF games I've played anymore.(so uninteresting) I know the gameplay is what matters but they should start thinking about the stories too.
Well, part of that is because almost none of the endings have really mattered. SFII's "real" ending is still unresolved, SFIII had no bios and obviously no announced real ending yet, and the Alphas are a huge mess. In fact, the only ending that we really have any grasp on is SF, and that's because it's kind of a no-brainer, seeing as how there's really only one character.
In all other fighting games, announced winners have been told, but SF's are so scattered that it's unlike the other series. Think about it, out of all the SF's, there's really only six total that matter, and there's huge breaks between them and giant leaps among character listings, more in those two areas then any other fighting game series. SF has a giant leap in years and characters to Alpha 2/3, which takes place years before SFII, which loses almost everyone into a whole different story for SFIII:DI/TS.
As opposed to VF, which actually keeps a consistant story but no one cares, Tekken, which keeps a decently consistant story that usually makes sense, MK, which has almost all the games take place immediately one after another and the story ties into everything, and DoA, which only tosses scraps out and fleshes them out less then SF but doesn't contridict itself. And then there's SNK fighters, which all seem to be flowing and work, but I don't know enough about the whole story and everyone in it to really make a judgement call there. I certainly haven't seen all the stories and what's going on for all the games, though I've had tastes of most of them.