The Obama Presidency

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Originally Posted by Bojack

I hear far more shooting accidents than I do syringe accidents.

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There is a lot of child custody shit none of us hear about.

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Originally Posted by Timber

Yeah, that is 100% the parent's fault. Yet another anecdote of why a basic intelligence test should be required for the right to reproduce.

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Your genes would be shot down.

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Originally Posted by Bojack

I guess I shouldn't be surprised of the double standard of age restricting some non lethal items vs. lethal items. Of course religion doesn't say much about guns but it does say heaps about porn, booze, smoking, and gambling and they probably did most of the push to place age restrictions.

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Yeah, I thought about bringing that up when Buttplant made his weird comparison between gun control and dry counties - they aren't dry to stop drunk driving deaths, they're dry to stop "sin."

Obama's closing Gitmo, why we still talking about smoke wagons?

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Originally Posted by The Gas

Yeah, I thought about bringing that up when Buttplant made his weird comparison between gun control and dry counties - they aren't dry to stop drunk driving deaths, they're dry to stop "sin."

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prohibition is about all the perceived faults of booze.

Religion just helps to create the bias against it.

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Originally Posted by Bojack

Indeed I do. Many addicts rightly lose custody of their children. If they can get themselves in check they can have their kids back. No kid should have to grow up in dangerous environments, something we both agree on. Granted I hear far more shooting accidents than I do syringe accidents.

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You didn't say anything about custody. You said to lock them up. And we both know that what you hear about is what the media wants you to hear about and not what is representative of anything.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

You didn't say anything about custody. You said to lock them up. And we both know that what you hear about is what the media wants you to hear about and not what is representative of anything.

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I thought you were gonna go long term "punish them for being addicts and take their kids away" or something, my mistake. I still feel that addicts should face the legal music for what they do criminally, child negligence being one of them and if the court and jury feels they should be locked away then so be it for criminal acts done while high. Kid steps on your heroin needle and gets aids, well you get a trip to jail. This doesn't change or conflict with my views on rehab and general addict treatment in America.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

prohibition is about all the perceived faults of booze.

Religion just helps to create the bias against it.

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You're putting the cart before the horse.

The shit goes hand in hand.

Dad's a drunk. Family doesn't know what to do. Fucker can't work and is an ass to the kids. They get a pamphlet while they're out about how the lord saves. So they go to church. Preacher preaches some shit about fire and brimstone. That shit was pretty scary, they think they better go back to hear more. Eventually the preacher gets to the part about drinking is a sin. Well shit, mom and the kids always knew there was something wrong about that drinking. It always did make dad horrible. Praise Jesus, this Christianity knows whats up. Maybe the whole thing guilt's dad into not drinking (proving the power of Jesus) maybe it doesn't (proving the temptation of the devil (further proving the bible is right)).


Man, this thread really shows how we've shifted as a society since prohibition was repealed. Most of you don't know anything about all the other arguments brought against alcohol. They aren't even in your line of vision. Everyone's all 'booze is great because I drink PBR with my pizza" and you think prohibition was all about people thinking other people were going to hell.

EDIT: You have to remember that this is before people started going to psychologist. Before support groups. Before 12 step plans or 2 step plans. Before the bookstore had a self improvement isle. You're options for fixing yourself was go to church or get so bad a bunch of men in town come beat your ass. Are you fat? Go to church, they'll make you feel bad for being a glutton. Are you poor? You'll find riches in heaven (and be told your bad if it is because of sloth). Religion and social problems fed off of each other before science had really taken a foothold.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

You have to remember that this is before people started going to psychologist. Before support groups. Before 12 step plans or 2 step plans. Before the bookstore had a self improvement isle.

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Save yourself some typing and just say "before we were all pussies."