That's not as far as you may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
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That's not as far as you may think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Here are 6,000 of them, though probably not all in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
This takes the number closer to my admittedly hyperbolic "zillion" with 3.2M.Quote:
Smith said the problem is twofold: U.S. colleges aren't turning out enough grads educated in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM), and the U.S. government's immigration policies are preventing the company from importing enough foreign workers to fill the gap.
Smith said the economy is creating 120,000 new jobs per year that require STEM skills, but colleges are only producing 40,000 STEM grads annually. "This shortage is going to get worse," said Smith.
I get that Obama wants to do all kinds of stupid shit to reduce student loans and forgive them, so that more dumb kids get indoctrinated in liberal arts programs, but it's the wrong thing for those kids, the economy, and just about everyone else.Quote:
Siemens’ Peter Solmssen says he has3,000 job openings in America he’s having trouble filling.
Cummins CEO Tim Solso told CNBC back in June that he can’t find skilled workers for his manufacturing plants.
When we askedAir Power Systems CEO Larry Mocha if he was having trouble finding skilled workers he responded “that’s the biggest problem we’ve got.”
Those complaints were echoed by a number of executives at a recent conference CNBC attended.
Didn't you just get an MBA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fe 26
But see you are comparing Dems to this sort of ideal, and not the other side of the aisle, which is worse in that regard. Furthermore, I find it laughable about it being hard to find people sometimes because companies have outright said they won't hire people that aren't currently working. Well, that sort of makes everything really messed up, no?
I think business is totally messed up personally. Way too many leadership positions exist, and way too many of those are filled with people for the wrong reasons. The rest of the positions, the ones that don't involve much human interaction or where the person providing the service has to be in the same area as the customer, are being shipped away. You're 35 or so, right? There are about 2 billion people on the other side of the globe. You don't think that I can't find people that can do your job (and I have no idea how good you are at you're job, so don't take this as an offense) that can do it for maybe 25% of what you make? In the next 2, 5 years? I know you know enough about math to figure that out. Well, a lot of those leadership positions, their reason for existing is to move your job. That's some really advanced cost analysis there. The shortage of STEM is an issue, but there's a much bigger issue at hand.
I assure you that if my job could easily be moved, it would have been.
Don't you work from home?
Yep. I'd prefer not to go into any further detail.
This guy Smith is a liar. Universities pump out plenty of science majors. These companies want the government to increase H1B visa amounts so they can import foreign labor and pay them less and treat them worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Which, by the way, the Obama admin supports increasing H1B visa quotas.
These companies are not good faith players in the labor market. If they want more people, simple econ 101 says you increase pay. They aren't doing that, or not doing it enough. Instead they want to undercut the market and import foreign labor.
edit: that Siemens guy is an asshole. Again, he is having trouble finding people because he doesn't want to pay them the right salary, and doesn't want to train them. He'd rather the government subsidize training through universities. There was a 60 Minutes article on that a few months back. I think this is it, if you care: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_16...hos-qualified/
I can get someone for 60K or I can get someone just as good for 30K because the world economy is shifting
hmm, let me get out the calculator and see which one benefits me right now
Although I will say that sometimes it isn't really 'just as good'.
The idea that there are these massive labor shortages in a country with high unemployment while companies are sitting on tons of cash just doesn't pass the smell test.
In a functioning economy, if there is a skills mismatch, companies would increase pay to entice labor and then spend money on training them to set up the next generation of their business. Instead they want to pay them less and get the government to train them. Free market!