A cluster of cells is as much of a person as all of the sperm you all swallow. Its not like a baby suddenly appears when a sperm reaches an egg.
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A cluster of cells is as much of a person as all of the sperm you all swallow. Its not like a baby suddenly appears when a sperm reaches an egg.
Part of the issue is how the English speaking world views individuality. To varying degrees, depending on what nation you are in, we've put it ahead of all other things, with the US being the flagship of this perspective.
We see the baby and the parent as individuals. We find the death of babies to be monstrous because we are subverting the baby's indivudality. We are snuffing it out via abortion.
But there are other ways to look at this. We can also look at it as families being threads that make up society. A quilt or tapestry if you will. Maybe an angry sock monkey. Or maybe we should look at families like a chain, with each person being a link. And all the chains work together to hold something great together. Maybe to hold a great ship to ground?
If we focus on the interconnecting relationships and not individuality, abortion is less abhorrent. It is probably for the greater good that unwanted children are not born. And if one strand is producing horrible things, or is horrible enough to want to end its own chain, why reword it by forcing it to? Why force it to go on being a part of the tapestry of society? It knows it is horrible and we know it is horrible.
Is it because we feel we can redeem that strand? Correct its path? Strengthen it? Make the tapestry better for keeping it?
Then why do the same people that refuse to let the family strand be ended, refuse almost all forms of aid that might make these improvements?
No matter how you look at, both sides are going to have to budge. Either allow abortion and not give handouts, or take away abortion and give full assistance in making the child a better person than the parent.
love it or leave it, pinko.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbkQuote:
Originally Posted by arjue
In typical Obama fashion, he's again used current events to further a largely unrelated agenda. The Zimmerman case had nothing to do with Stand Your Ground, because he was on his way back to his car when the altercation began; it was purely a self defense case, which is legally significantly different. But facts have never mattered to Obama, so he's jumped at the chance to apologize for the ridiculous reaction of the black community and to try to further control gun ownership and usage.
edit: Do I even need to mention "I saved Detroit"?
His comments were very reasonable.
There really is no evidence this is true - it's what Zimmerman said, but he could easily be lying and there's no way to disprove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Obama could donate his blood to dying orphans and Yoshi would find fault with it somewhere somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Of course he would. That's blood socialism.