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It's exactly like gun control that would do nothing to address Sandy Hook being trotted out under politically convenient circumstances. Stand your ground has zero to do with current events, but he sure doesn't miss a chance to capitalize on people too stupid to realize that.
Better watch out, Obama is personally going to take away our right to shoot people we perceive as threats.
Won't anyone think of the children?
I'm surprised none of you wanted to talk about Detroit (0:50):
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Originally Posted by Chris Stirewalt
I'M NOT DONE TALKING ABOUT STAND YOUR GROUND YET YOSHI OK
Listen, someone breaks into my house and tries to rapemurder my wife or children? I'm going to defend us to whatever extent is necessary up to and including killing said intruder. I think that's something that should be legal. Someone threatening your life shouldn't have a limitation on response if they initiated it. The whole idea that you have to try and flee first is debatable, but if someone is going to kill you if you don't kill them your choices shouldn’t be life in prison or dying.
That being said, as much as I agree with the ruling of the court that the prosecution didn't remove any doubt that he acted in self-defense, there is something wrong with that fact that the person who is still alive and on trial is the person that started the whole thing. If someone breaks into my house and tries to rapemurder my wife or children and kills me in "self defense" because I was going to kill them in self-defense that's total bullshit. Somewhere in these laws it needs to address instigation better. Zimmerman should have walked away when the police told him to, had he done that a teenager would still be alive, because he didn't there should be some ramifications.
Also this Detroit thing is retarded. The whole not paying pensions thing is maybe illegal in Michigan and now it's being held up in the state courts. This is going to be messy as fuck.
Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, manQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
You can't talk about stand your ground through the Zimmerman trial, because legally the two have nothing to do with each other.
Re: Detroit, a city can't print money. How do you propose the pensions for the overpaid, over-benefited workers be funded by a bankrupt city?
edit: It couldn't happen to a better place though. A city that's run by unions and has elected nothing but Democratic mayors forever and is in a blue state finally got to be such a mess that even Obama wouldn't bail them out anymore. It's as if all those entitlement policies don't really work...
edit2: If you're arguing politics at 10pm on a Friday night... you just might be old. :(
I never said they should, I just said the whole thing is retarded, which it is. I then referenced one of the most dysfunctional aspects i.e. they have no money and literally can't pay pensions but a court is saying they can't do that like it's some kind of option to spend money they don't have. It's messy as fuck.
Totally agree. I hope it's a giant warning sign to every other state and city.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
Detroit is basically a gigantic abandoned mining town after the mine has run out. No amount of left or right policy is gonna get them outta their jam.
Replace Obama with "government" It's always shit, no matter who the figurehead is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Lets spread the blood around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca