here, lets make this simple:
No it's not. Kill yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
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here, lets make this simple:
No it's not. Kill yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
A terrorist attack would help the Republicans, not the incumbent regardless of party. The Democrats are the mommy party and the GOP is the daddy party. When the country is attacked, you want daddy in charge.
It's hard to imagine an external event that would help the Democrats. I thought the oil spill might help Obama, as people trust the Democrats on the environment. There might have even been a little bump, but this thing has gone on so long that the energy/environmental angle is overwhelmed by the Obama incompetency issue.
The Democrats were helped in 1998 when the GOP Congress impeached Clinton. But the GOP doesn't control anything right now, so it's hard for them to shoot themselves in the foot.
When the economic crisis hit in September 2008, it seemed a virtual certainty to me that Obama would be elected, but then the Democrats would get absolutely crushed in 2010. And with 2010 being a census year, the redistricting in 2011 will be done by GOP legislatures and governors, making a Democratic comeback very tough for the next ten years. And if unemployment remains stubbornly high - especially if we have a double dip recession -- Obama will be in big trouble in 2012. I haven't seen anything so far that would change my mind.
In the current political atmosphere where people have their benefits taken away because it's "too expensive", trillions given to banking corporations with no oversight and a massive corporation just getting a slap on the wrist for polluting an entire region of the Gulf of Mexico with toxic ooze I do find a comment like that from a man with some power in this world scary.
I will scrutinize shit like that. You can go fuck your anus with a Dremel.
Except the American people have historically always rallied behind a President after an attack of that nature. The did it with Bush and Guilliani after 9/11. Even though the 9/11 clean-up was botched by Guilliani completely.
Because Republicans pushed for so much deregulation that lead to this catastrophe I'm not sure how anybody can benefit. It's not like Obama can swim down and stick his massive black cock in the gusher to seal it. No scientists on Earth know how to stop the amount of force coming out of that well. Not only that, but the well is dangerously close to stratas leading to an underwater volcano.Quote:
It's hard to imagine an external event that would help the Democrats. I thought the oil spill might help Obama, as people trust the Democrats on the environment. There might have even been a little bump, but this thing has gone on so long that the energy/environmental angle is overwhelmed by the Obama incompetency issue.
Some economists are saying there will be a double dip, but it's impossible to know. Getting money in consumer hands to buy essentials is a good way to continue to stimulate the economy but it may just prolong the inevitable.Quote:
When the economic crisis hit in September 2008, it seemed a virtual certainty to me that Obama would be elected, but then the Democrats would get absolutely crushed in 2010. And with 2010 being a census year, the redistricting in 2011 will be done by GOP legislatures and governors, making a Democratic comeback very tough for the next ten years. And if unemployment remains stubbornly high - especially if we have a double dip recession -- Obama will be in big trouble in 2012. I haven't seen anything so far that would change my mind.
Bill Clinton has no power.
There is no inevitable. The economy is a manmade creation, whatever happens there happens because of man. And man will not be adding more stimulus even if it will make up for the current lack of demand in the private sector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
It is inevitable man will fuck it up.
Well that one went right over your head. Nice try Diff
So, 85 days later, BP figured out how to stop the leak.
The economy is large enough in scope that we can talk with terms like "inevitability" with a fair degree of accuracy. Obviously nothing is truely inevitable, but there are so many people making so many decisions, it is difficult to do anything but small bumps one way or another with conscious actions by governments, especially in long term situations..
I didn't want to get in to it because it's a stupid argument over semantics. Diff was just trying to run game.