The Obama Presidency

It is good news if I don't hold stock in Citi, which I don't, that place is a fuckhole.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

:wtf: That kind of thing is never going to help the incumbent party.

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It should when McCain was in opposition to the late economic process of the incumbent party (and Obama wasn't) and the Democrats only sounded like they knew what they were talking about to all the listening monkeys out there.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Being good at rehearsed speeches and smiling at cameras isn't really worth much when the rubber hits the road.

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wait, when did the conversation shift back to Palin?

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Originally Posted by Shooting Love

wait, when did the conversation shift back to Palin?

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You're comparing Obama with Palin? One was a media darling capable of giving mainstream journalists "tingly feelings" in their legs, and the other was not. They're like night and day.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Obama would not have won without that conveniently timed event.

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I don't think it was as much the timing of the event as it was McCain's Hoover-esque "the fundamentals of the American economy are strong" comment a little over a week before the economy turned to shit. Thank McCain's foot-in-mouth disease more than anything else.

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Originally Posted by Gohron

I doubt it, I wish McCain would've won, but if anything, the economic crisis (should have) helped him. Anybody who voted for Obama because of his economic views and "expertise" is a fucking clown. I mean, I don't think the guy is the anti-Christ, but I would have bet my left nut that the economy would have suffered less under a McCain administration.

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You do realize that the economy tanked under the previous administration, a Republican one, right? The economy has "suffered" exactly one month under Obama.

Squall isn't very good with the whole joke thing.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

To Gooch and all the other economic whiz kids of TNL. Is this a good idea?

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Translation: Citi, much like BoA, is insolvent. No matter how much money keeps being thrown at it, it is insolvent.

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Originally Posted by Shooting Love

wait, when did the conversation shift back to Palin?

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Palin was awful at rehearsed speeches. What the fuck are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Melf

You do realize that the economy tanked under the previous administration, a Republican one, right? The economy has "suffered" exactly one month under Obama.

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I understand that, but like I said, McCain was in opposition to many of the late tactics of the Bush administration. I don't think Obama is making this worse (yet) but as I said previously in the thread, the government is blindly throwing money out there and they're in such a goddamn rush to do it. People are acting like everything needs to be done as fast as possible, like this is all going to be fixed overnight. I honestly am not comfortable with my tax dollars being thrown at failed car companies who are going to continue their poor business practices.

The foundations of the economy are strong and will continue to be unless this country goes through a drastic change but the actual success of the economy is not a constant and it will continue to go up and down, sometimes sharply, until this country no longer exists.

Clinton gets off far too easily and too much blame goes to the prior administration.