The Obama Presidency

Yeah, you nailed me to a tee.

I don't blame anyone else for my standing in life. I do just fine for my lifestyle. I am, however, scathingly angry at how our system is set up.

Let me phrase it for you like this Yoshi: I have schizophrenia. My medicine is very expensive, but I have coverage under my wife's policy from work. If she were to lose her job and insurance I wouldn't be able to pay for my medicine. I could become a danger to your family if the psychosis took a turn for the unpleasant. Isn't it in your best interest to ensure I get my medicine, even if it costs you a little in taxes?

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I support universal healthcare. I just don't like the one Obama has drafted (and to be fair, it was neutered by the Republicans who oppose anything having to do with healthcare).

Republicans neuter everything that has nothing to do with them. Dems do it, too. That's the problem. It's a childish schoolyard fight in fucking Congress. They're playing with our lives and we don't do shit about it except elect someone else to do the same thing.

no one else runs

No one else runs because it's a self-defeating system. You really can't do shit alone. You need others behind you or everything you bring up gets shot down. Burn it all, I say. Start anew.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

Yeah both suck right now. Both controlled by the lobbyists and special interests. One side is so corrupt that the masses elected a unqualified President. The other has fucked up their own image(RHINO) that the country doesn't even consider them an option. Even though, most probably agree with them half the time.

To Josh: The point was Repubs are known as the all white male club. I was pointing out that back in the day, it was actually the Democrats who withheld black voting rights. The issue is that most people seem to think it was the Republicans. They would be wrong with that assessment.

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You're an idiot. The idea that Bush only failed because he was a RINO is insane. Bush operated within the narrow spectrum of the far right his entire Presidency. His entire political shop, his entire election strategy, engineered by Rove, revolved around charging up the right wing base and telling the rest to go screw. Like it or lump it, the shitty Presidency of George W. Bush is exactly what happens when far right wing ideologues govern. And that last sentence about "most" people "probably" agreeing with them "half the time" is one of the most loltastic pieces of CYA writing I've read in a while.

Oh, and on the whole CRA thing, the reason people think Republicans voted against the CRA was because of the Southern Strategy, which I have mentioned before in this thread (probably in response to your inanity, because I remember reading it before). Republicans consciously engineered a strategy to go after the white racist Southerners who were pissed off at LBJ for passing the CRA and other policies. The Southern Strategy revolved around stoking fears of black people, exploiting fissures in society, and using coded racist dogwhistles to appeal to racists without sounding racist yourself. That's how the South went from blue to deep red.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

It is meaningless in the context I'm saying it because I don't want to go point by point what his policies are. But there are real definitions and policies he has supported. Smaller government, auditing the federal reserve (which is not a branch of government, a private corporation, that controls the flow of money), doing away with excess lobbying and increased accountability in government.

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So Ron Paul supports some policies. That's great of him! But we all knew that. His policies are analyzed and criticized, including in this thread. But what does it have to do with "what's in the Constitution"?

The reason the Constitution still is in effect, why it is still around instead of being rewritten from scratch (as it has in literally every other country since, to the best of my knowledge) is because the political system designed by the Founders was flexible and adaptable. That's a good thing and has served our country well. Just because one certain guy happens to interpret the Constitution in a way to match what he is peddling doesn't mean his ideas are automatically superior. It also means that "it's in the Constitution!" it not some auto-win in a debate. It means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

I just don't like the one Obama has drafted (and to be fair, it was neutered by the Republicans who oppose anything having to do with healthcare).

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Obama didn't draft the legislation. The World's Worst Legislative Body drafted it. That was part of Obama's strategy (since the top-down strategy failed when Clinton tried it).

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Do you bother to read the other posts in this thread? I already said that parents have more to do with success than formal education. The rest of your bullshit is meaningless. What are the odds of being hit by a drunk driver? 1/1,000,000? You don't make plans based on those kind of odds. That's like budgeting based on winning the lottery. If you get hooked on drugs, you get what you deserve. Same with an unplanned pregnancy. If you aren't prepared to care for the child, then take better precautions. For the 10,000th time, it's all about personal responsibility. One of the reasons my daughter was born (mostly) healthy is that my wife ate right, didn't drink, etc. while she was pregnant. She took responsibility. And my daughter was born with an intestinal malrotation that required invasive surgery and required her to be in the hospital for a couple weeks when she was about 6 months old. And the combination of the insurance I pay for and out of pocket expense paid the thousands and thousands of dollars that cost, because I took responsibility to have insurance and to pay the remaining bill, even when my family wasn't so fortunate, you fucking prick.

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My initial response towards you was regarding how hypocritical it is to think that one's parents have a big impact on one's outcome in life while holding your political views.

In any case your reading comprehension blows. All I've really been talking about is how you've had it relatively good and shouldn't be a dick about social welfare programs (or anything you deem "entitlement program/mentality") like you typically are. Then pointed out how things oft happen to people regardless of caution or planning (birth control failing etc.) and they most likely haven't happened to you. You however tend to act like you're some kind of hard luck case hero who worked his way up despite being a black kid in the Bronx whose momma's a coke head or some other shit and can therefore look down upon people who ask for any kind of aid apparently and do your best (or at lest complain about it all the time) to prevent them from getting aid that you don't think they've worked hard enough for given that you have no idea the life story of most people.

It's excellent fate that your daughter was born to a well off guy with decent insurance and not some laid off guy who just lost insurance or any of the other countless hard luck cases vehement anti social works schmucks like you usually look down upon. I hope she's never that sick again. In Europe it wouldn't have costed you thousands of dollars on top of your insurance premiums because they don't have a voting populace full of Yoshis.