That dude will most likely spend the rest of his life in prison. Whats the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
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That dude will most likely spend the rest of his life in prison. Whats the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Read the original comment again and tell me you didn't hint at underlying racism, you cock knocker.
He was acquitted on all but one count and has no right or business having a civilian trial.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave is ok
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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
The one count he was convicted on got him 20 to life. Show me how you think the jury failed to deliver justiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Silly Razor: There is always a hint of underlying racism in everything Yoshi posts.
Yosh apparently thinks this guy deserved death or some of the laughable "in jail for 325 years" sentences. I guess to him a sentence means more if it's done by army guys off shore.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave is ok
Why doesn't he deserve a civilian trial? Because The President says he shouldn't? That's some authoritarian fascist bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Ahmed Ghailani was convicted in federal "civilian" court of one count of conspiracy to blow up a government building, and acquitted of over 280 counts of murder and conspiracy related to the Kenya and Tanzania bombings in 2008. For that offense, he will receive a sentence of 20 years to life. Sounds like a victory for Eric Holder and DOJ. How, exactly, did they "dick up" this proceeding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Perhaps you are upset that the judge excluded the testimony of a key witness because the Government illegally tortured Ghailani to obtain the witness's identity. But the same result would have been reached in a military tribunal, where involuntarily coerced statements and evidence derived therefrom are not admissible. So even if Holder had disregarded the Constitution, as you would have had him do, and had him tried before a military tribunal, the result would have been the same. See Rule 304(a)(1) and (5) of the Manual for Military Commissions.
Or perhaps you would prefer that the executive simply detain him indefinitely, without trial, or even after an acquittal, as the Administration has previously suggested it would do under the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF).
In sum, the Government managed to convict a terrorist by staying within the Constitution and our laws. And hey, even if they failed to convict, they would have detained him anyway.
Win win.
The truth is that guys like Yoshi talk up the Constitution and liberty and shit but they really yearn for a Big Daddy Strongman to keep them "safe" and beat up those pesky "liberals." Bush played that role perfectly. To learn more.