Silicon Knights: Let's Give Them The Standing Ovation They Deserve

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26 Jun 2002, 01:06 AM
Johnny Nighttrain

Silicon Knights: Let's Give Them The Standing Ovation They Deserve

just finished the third chapter in Eternal Darkness, and went to the second floor of the mansion. checked out the bathroom...great shit. seriously, thumbs up to these guys. the further you get in the game, the nicer it looks too. the insanity effects are only getting better and better. great sound and music, and pretty much flawless camera.

fuckin awesome game. if you own a GameCube, go buy this game. you won't regret it.

im only a bit over 2 hours into it and it's been a great experience so far. i don't think i can say enough good things about this game. it's just fuckin awesome, and tooooons of fun. innovative as hell, i haven't had this much fun with a game since Rez. best GameCube game yet.

:claps for Silicon Kights:

anyways, i must get back to the game.
26 Jun 2002, 01:12 AM
supermario

I'm likeing the game.

Its a lot better than what I thought it would be.
26 Jun 2002, 01:25 AM
Korly

I honestly would have bought a GC JUST for this game. It's (as one of your favorite superstars would say) That Damn Good.
26 Jun 2002, 01:26 AM
Regus

I have a question.

What has Silicon Knights been up to (besides this) since the release of Blood Omen back in 1996? Because, it's seemed as if they fell off the face of the earth.
26 Jun 2002, 01:30 AM
Johnny Nighttrain

Quote:

Originally posted by Regus
I have a question.

What has Silicon Knights been up to (besides this) since the release of Blood Omen back in 1996?

they've been working on Eternal Darkness and Too Human since then.

anyways, this game is sooo fuckin great. i really haven't had such a great experience with a game in a while.
26 Jun 2002, 01:43 AM
gamevet

I've heard nothing but praise for this game. Gamecube strikes up another winner. I'm looking forward to playing this game.
26 Jun 2002, 01:48 AM
Wildcat

I hear praise from everywhere. Saturday can't get here fast enough! :D
26 Jun 2002, 02:11 AM
Shin Johnpv

i have to say they did one hell of a job with the game

cant wait to see what they do when the game starts on the GC and isnt a N64 switch up
26 Jun 2002, 02:16 AM
Bonestorm

I'm not that far in, but I'm already blown away. This game only seemed to have hype in the past few weeks, but it deserved to be seriously hyped years ago.
26 Jun 2002, 02:25 AM
LittleEric

whenever i decide to get a GC this will be a definite. it sounds good but come on ... its from the guys behind Blood Omen, its godliness was all but guaranteed.
26 Jun 2002, 02:26 AM
stormy

how many ED threads does this make now? just curious, being as this one has no purpose beyond what is covered in the others.
26 Jun 2002, 02:27 AM
Kinopio

Incredible. Fantastic. Amazing. Those 4 years were worth it.
26 Jun 2002, 02:33 AM
jaysun

I've read all the reviews, and i must say- I've never seen such widespread praise for a game in recent times. This is fantastic.

Bravo SK and Nintendo!
26 Jun 2002, 02:56 AM
Korly

Do Silicon Knights have a website?
26 Jun 2002, 06:29 AM
Johnny Nighttrain

Quote:

Originally posted by Korly
Do Silicon Knights have a website?

http://www.siliconknights.com/
26 Jun 2002, 06:39 AM
Andy787

Quote:

Originally posted by Lucas Barton

http://www.siliconknights.com/

:lol:

Anyway, I need to check this game out. As soon as I finish this last mission in Morrowind >_<
26 Jun 2002, 09:19 AM
Captain Vegetable

It's unbelievable! It's like we're all playing through a Lovecraftian novel. The "Anchients," cults, I'm waiting for the appearance of the "Under-people" and C'Thulu. ;)

Seriously, it's magnificent. Go buy it.
26 Jun 2002, 10:24 AM
Cheebs

I have much optimism for this one. Funcoland, here I come. :)
26 Jun 2002, 10:27 AM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Chibi Nappa
I have much optimism for this one. Funcoland, here I come. :)

There is much optimism to be had, Baby Fruit. Much indeed.
26 Jun 2002, 10:28 AM
Yoshi

It is always a miracle when a game that comes from outside of Japan is great, so this is truly a special event.
26 Jun 2002, 10:29 AM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Yoshi
It is always a miracle when a game that comes from outside of Japan is great, so this is truly a special event.

Take that, bitch! ;)
26 Jun 2002, 10:47 AM
Nick

Listen to Lucas: this game is a masterpiece of video game horror. It "pays tribute" to Resident Evil, sure, but it also introduces new concepts and carries them off very effectively. The insanity effects alone are worth the price of admission.

I have no idea how much gameplay is on this disc, or exactly what the replay value is (there do appear to be branching paths, but I am not sure if there are), but this looks like one of the top games of the year.

*stands and ovates* :)
26 Jun 2002, 10:55 AM
Despair

Only had time to play for little while last night, but its indeed excellent :)

I loved Blood Omen, and I might love this one as well :)
26 Jun 2002, 11:00 AM
Cheebs

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain Vegetable

There is much optimism to be had, Baby Fruit. Much indeed.

Nappa = fruit? I didn't know that. I guess since every other saiya-jin is named after food it's not too surprising. :)

I wonder, anybody think there's something to be said for 4 year development cycles? I think most games aren't in the oven for nearly enough time, and when something like this comes along the 4 years really shows.
26 Jun 2002, 11:17 AM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Chibi Nappa
Nappa = fruit? I didn't know that. I guess since every other saiya-jin is named after food it's not too surprising. :)

I think it means "peach," but I'm not sure. It is definatly a fruit though. ;)
26 Jun 2002, 11:18 AM
Lordmrw

I think the only reason it was in dev for 4 years is partly because of the switch. In all, I would say it was more like 2 and a half or 3 years total. Still pretty long though. I second that some games aren't in the cooker long enough before release. Nothing more disappointing than to play a decent game that would have been better had they fixed a few small flaws.
26 Jun 2002, 11:22 AM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Lordmrw
I think the only reason it was in dev for 4 years is partly because of the switch. In all, I would say it was more like 2 and a half or 3 years total. Still pretty long though. I second that some games aren't in the cooker long enough before release. Nothing more disappointing than to play a decent game that would have been better had they fixed a few small flaws.

I agree.

To Hell with you if you don't think so, but Legend of Dragoon was in dev. for 3 years and it was amazing...except for the translation..."Minitos?!" WTF?!
27 Jun 2002, 12:06 AM
Johnny Nighttrain

yeah, the game was in development for 2 years on N64. when the game was completed, Nintendo decided it would be best to move the game over to GameCube.

so here we are.
27 Jun 2002, 01:16 AM
Luke

I will stand up for Silicon Knights, as this is a masterpiece that shouldn't be missed.

They are a team of geniuses.

I never expected this, and I should have all along.
Finally we have a game that is worthy of its hype and so much more.
27 Jun 2002, 02:00 AM
Rumpy

4 years is a long time. I mean a real long time. Think about it. That's like your entire high school career! It was suppost to come out October 2000 for N64. If the Cube is so easyto dev for, what took so long? Who else takes that long to make games? Blizzard? ID...Max Payne took forever, Morrowind, Neverwinter Nights...
27 Jun 2002, 02:11 AM
MechDeus

Quote:

Originally posted by Rumpy
If the Cube is so easyto dev for, what took so long?

Who knows. The Rogue Leader Spaceworld demo took only a month to make (and the entire game only took eight months altogether), and the F-Zero E3 demo only took a month, so it's obviously easy. I think it's perhaps more the converting of everything from N64 to GC while still building on it and keeping everything flowing naturally. They probably had to rebuild the graphics engine from the ground up, not to mention how sound works (the N64 has no sound chip, so it all has to come from the cartridge) and they might've even redone a lot of the voice and music specifically to keep it in a higher quality state and add to it from what the N64 might not've been able to do.

And perhaps they simply decided to take their time to make sure it turned out right. And that's something I simply can't argue with, Blizzard is a testament to that.
27 Jun 2002, 03:02 AM
Shin Johnpv

well it took 4 years because 2, 2 1/2 years were spent on N64 development

they then said ok well up it to GC and spent 1 1/2 - 2 years using what they coold upgrading other things starting other things over and trying to do the game right

look at RE0 its kinda going through the same thing just Capcom is spending even more time with it
27 Jun 2002, 04:46 AM
Johnny Nighttrain

once again. this game is not a port. they started from scratch when they brought the game to GameCube.

sure they had the level design and what not done, but they still had to come up with completely new code. not to mention that EAD started helping out. which just made Silicon Knights go back to the drawing board and add new stuff to the game, and make it over all better.

whatever, well worth the wait if you ask me. i don't see anyone else here complaining either.
27 Jun 2002, 12:03 PM
Hero

I could attest to that. Among other things, one thing the N64 ED had was rendered backgrounds last time anyone saw it. So you know this thing had to be reworked A LOT.

Although, and I'd hate to say this, but after hearing that GTA3 was the be-all of gaming and getting burned, I don't know if I should really go get this. Is Eternal Darkness so brilliant just because of the insanity effects? Or is there some nice gameplay and good stuff attatched to the mature-ness of the game?
27 Jun 2002, 12:14 PM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Hero
I could attest to that. Among other things, one thing the N64 ED had was rendered backgrounds last time anyone saw it. So you know this thing had to be reworked A LOT.

Although, and I'd hate to say this, but after hearing that GTA3 was the be-all of gaming and getting burned, I don't know if I should really go get this. Is Eternal Darkness so brilliant just because of the insanity effects? Or is there some nice gameplay and good stuff attatched to the mature-ness of the game?

It's good stuff! Far removed from the GTA3 debacle. But if you're still unsure, rent it. But you're prolly going to want to buy it anyway, so the rent would be a waste of 5 bones. :p
27 Jun 2002, 12:55 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally posted by Hero
I could attest to that. Among other things, one thing the N64 ED had was rendered backgrounds last time anyone saw it. So you know this thing had to be reworked A LOT.

Although, and I'd hate to say this, but after hearing that GTA3 was the be-all of gaming and getting burned, I don't know if I should really go get this. Is Eternal Darkness so brilliant just because of the insanity effects? Or is there some nice gameplay and good stuff attatched to the mature-ness of the game?

theres lots of really nice gameplay, a great story line, really good acting, fun puzzles, etc etc the insanity effects are just icing on the cake this really is a great game , and if it wasnt for the fact that Mario Sunshine was hitting this year id say it would have Game of the Year in the bag

it really is just a phenominal game

i didnt feel the same way about GTA3 i thought it was allright and just more of the same cept in 3D were as GTA1 - 2 and london were 2d birds eye view
27 Jun 2002, 01:01 PM
Despair

Well, Trust us Hero :) The game is GOOD :)

I totally agree with what JohnPV and Captain said above :)

You seen me nitpickin it, but those were 2 minor flaws, and everything else works great.

But if you are not fan of Horror/Action games, with more dark storylines, you might not enjoy it, and you better try something more bright and happy(like waiting for Mario Sunshine :))

Try renting this game, if you like, you can buy it, and if you dont, it will save you $45 :)
27 Jun 2002, 01:36 PM
Kinopio

Quote:

Originally posted by Hero

Although, and I'd hate to say this, but after hearing that GTA3 was the be-all of gaming and getting burned, I don't know if I should really go get this. Is Eternal Darkness so brilliant just because of the insanity effects? Or is there some nice gameplay and good stuff attatched to the mature-ness of the game?

The insanity effects are just like 1/10th of the greatness of the game. ED is really a sum of its parts. Never before has a game come together like it does. ED is a much better game than 99.999% of the games out there, GTA3 included. buy it.
27 Jun 2002, 02:30 PM
Master of 7s

Quote:

Originally posted by Hero
Although, and I'd hate to say this, but after hearing that GTA3 was the be-all of gaming and getting burned, I don't know if I should really go get this. Is Eternal Darkness so brilliant just because of the insanity effects? Or is there some nice gameplay and good stuff attatched to the mature-ness of the game?

Hero, you trust the word of a fellow Brother in Christ right?

BUY THE GAME!!!!

GTA3 was garbage this game is not! Trust me Bro, BUY THE GAME!!! You won't regret it. I'm only about four hours into it and even if it isn't any longer than ten, it was worth the fifty bucks.

BUY IT NOW!!
BUY IT NOW!!
BUY IT NOW!!

*This endorsement brought to you by a fanatical Christian gamer who will now return to ED*
27 Jun 2002, 02:34 PM
burgundy

Quote:

Originally posted by Shin Johnpv

theres lots of really nice gameplay, a great story line, really good acting, fun puzzles, etc etc the insanity effects are just icing on the cake this really is a great game , and if it wasnt for the fact that Mario Sunshine was hitting this year id say it would have Game of the Year in the bag

it really is just a phenominal game

i didnt feel the same way about GTA3 i thought it was allright and just more of the same cept in 3D were as GTA1 - 2 and london were 2d birds eye view

I was just thinking about this. At E3, this game didn't even register in my top echelon, but after sitting down with it and becoming immersed, I honestly think ED could be a GotY contender.
27 Jun 2002, 02:35 PM
burgundy

Quote:

Originally posted by Despair
Well, Trust us Hero :) The game is GOOD :)

I totally agree with what JohnPV and Captain said above :)

You seen me nitpickin it, but those were 2 minor flaws, and everything else works great.

But if you are not fan of Horror/Action games, with more dark storylines, you might not enjoy it, and you better try something more bright and happy(like waiting for Mario Sunshine :))

Try renting this game, if you like, you can buy it, and if you dont, it will save you $45 :)

I generally hate S-H but I love ED. Everything gets better with the Nintendo touch.

The biggest strike against this game is that some people might be too scared to play it alone.
27 Jun 2002, 03:12 PM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by burgundy
I generally hate S-H but I love ED. Everything gets better with the Nintendo touch.

The biggest strike against this game is that some people might be too scared to play it alone.

I actually find RE more scary. It gives me nightmares, where ED doesn't...I'm not joking. I don't deal well with the undead. Movies, games...I hate the undead. Zombies in specific. Vampires are fine, but zombies and mummies are freaking creepy.

But maybe ED doesn't bother me because I love the Lovecraftian story.
27 Jun 2002, 03:18 PM
Johnny Nighttrain

buy it. i don't even like the genre and i must say this is the best GameCube game yet. but then again, it doesn't really play like RE at all.

yeah dude, i mean, i can't really say much that somebody else hasn't already.

simply put, it's just a great fuckin game that's a lot of fun that every GameCube owner should buy.
27 Jun 2002, 03:36 PM
Master of 7s

Quote:

Originally posted by burgundy
The biggest strike against this game is that some people might be too scared to play it alone.

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*

*Jumps out of pants for the twelfth time in row*

Grrrr....if I EVER find that jerk who keeps banging on those doors THERE'S GONNA BE HELL TO PAY!!!!
27 Jun 2002, 04:00 PM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Master of 7s

*BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG*

*Jumps out of pants for the twelfth time in row*

Grrrr....if I EVER find that jerk who keeps banging on those doors THERE'S GONNA BE HELL TO PAY!!!!

I hate that!

First time I had it happen to me was right after chapter 3. I jumped...along with my brother and fiance.
27 Jun 2002, 04:26 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally posted by burgundy
I was just thinking about this. At E3, this game didn't even register in my top echelon, but after sitting down with it and becoming immersed, I honestly think ED could be a GotY contender.

from what i know thats coming out and whats been released these would be my predictions for GotY games

Super Mario Sunshine
Eternal Darkness
Maximo
Panzer Dragoon Orta

i dont remember what else is coming out right now but if you were to ask me off the top of my head what games at the end of the year SHOULD be GotY contenders those would be the games id pick for it probably

(who knows Mario and Panzer Dragoon could both end up sucking but i highly doubt either will)
27 Jun 2002, 05:18 PM
BooMsta

At first I knew NOTIHNG about this game and then Kaneda slaped me..."where in the hell have you been?!" so now I'm seriously looking forward to my B-day so I can get it from him....*looks at the clock* damn it! I want it now! I don't want to wait 20 days
27 Jun 2002, 10:45 PM
Pücas Farton

Once when the character was hallucinating, the volume meter on my TV started going down, but the sound stayed at the same level. It was the same exact graphic as my TV volume meter too. I looked around to see if I was leaning on the remote, but it was on the other side of the room!

What an awesome 'little touch'! Unless I was going insane, or my TV was messed up.

(BTW, I'm sure this cool effect isn't news to any of you).
27 Jun 2002, 11:01 PM
Johnny Nighttrain

so Green (or should i call you Ashton?), how did i manage to piss you off without trying?

seriously, i put no effort into it at all. im really curious.
27 Jun 2002, 11:24 PM
Captain Vegetable

Quote:

Originally posted by Pücas Farton
Once when the character was hallucinating, the volume meter on my TV started going down, but the sound stayed at the same level. It was the same exact graphic as my TV volume meter too. I looked around to see if I was leaning on the remote, but it was on the other side of the room!

What an awesome 'little touch'! Unless I was going insane, or my TV was messed up.

(BTW, I'm sure this cool effect isn't news to any of you).

You, sir, have the funniest name and Avatar evar!!!
28 Jun 2002, 02:16 AM
Shooting Love

Quote:

Originaly posted by Lucas Barton
so Green (or should i call you Ashton?), how did i manage to piss you off without trying?

I didn't read any but the last of this thread, but this seems to insinuate someting:

Quote:

(BTW, I'm sure this cool effect isn't news to any of you).
28 Jun 2002, 08:52 AM
EightBit

OK, does anyone here know a way to email or write a letter to these cats? I went to thier website in hope of a questions/comments email with no luck. I would love to write them just to thank them for making the game. I know it sounds kinda silly. I would do it more often but most of the time I would be writing to a Japanese team, and I wonder how well they would recieve an english written letter. So, any help in this regard is much appreciated.

Z-roe
28 Jun 2002, 10:39 AM
Korly

Quote:

Originally posted by burgundy
I generally hate S-H but I love ED.

I would consider this an adventure game, with horror elements, as opposed to Survival Horror. Especially once you get to the last 2 or 3 chapters.
28 Jun 2002, 10:55 AM
Nick

Quote:

Originally posted by Z-roe
. . . I would be writing to a Japanese team, and I wonder how well they would receive an English-written letter.

Fan mail is always good for development teams, and there are plenty of people in Japan who could translate the letter.
28 Jun 2002, 11:06 AM
EightBit

Quote:

Originally posted by Nick

Fan mail is always good for development teams, and there are plenty of people in Japan who could translate the letter.

I figured, but still, I wonder if they would even goto the trouble. Ah well.. it cant hurt can it?

Z-roe
30 Jun 2002, 08:54 PM
Korly

http://www.siliconknights.com/

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