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Because as we all know, if a concept fails years before its time, there is no possible way it could succeed in the future. For example, Icarus tried to fly with wax wings but failed, therefore winged flight is an impossibility.
Personally I think it would be great if a standard emerged, however i have my doubts that nobody would try and compete with it.
A cabal of companies talked into investing in a variation of 'one console future' in which a standardized 'base hardware schematic*' was adopted, which proceeded to fail somewhat catastrophically for obvious reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
It'll never happen again though, nope. Ever.
(that didn't really happen, arjue. they call thems 'fiction')Quote:
Originally Posted by arjue
You clearly don't know anything about any of the systems you're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
CD-i was never meant to be a "one console future." In fact, it was never meant to compete directly with the console market at all. It was a product of the early 90s "multimedia" fad and it was marketed towards adult tech geeks and people with families, not the traditional videogame userbase. The hardware was barely even capable of playing real games.
The LaserActive was just a Laserdisc player with a built in Genesis. It was never designed to do anything other than sell a few extra laserdisc players. It worked. No evil cabal needed.
Anyway, the Microvision and the Epoch Game Pocket Computer failed miserably, and when Nintendo released the Game Boy it was the biggest system launch ever. Just because the time wasn't right for the 3DO business model in 1993 doesn't mean it won't be in 2013.
Eat a dick, junior. Have fun, peace out. :tu:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
So Yeller, if you told me in 1999 that eventually almost all new TVs sold would be HD, and I responded by posting the unwieldy analog HDTVs of the day and laughed at you, would I be right?
You keep replying, could you not find a fork?
Don't go getting your feelings hurt, man. If you post shit that isn't true I'm going to point it out. It ain't personal.
I'll just give you the nerd trophy on this one. How about that? You guys sort it out from here on out. :lol:
I've got a shelf full of them already, motherfucker. Fuck your Emmy.
What the fuck is that sony grill on the bottom right?
The PC market prevailed, because of the need to have a standardised computer that you could use at work as well as home. It's not like you need to send an email or word document from home, using a videogame console.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
Computers like C-64, Apple II, TRS-80 and the countless other models existed, because very few people could actually afford an IBM PC. The clone market is the only reason it became a reality. I own a C-64 and an Amiga, because I used them for entertainment, not because they had any work related purposes. I have a PC in my home now, for the business and social needs, more than just as a form of entertainment. If I wanted to use a PC more for the entertaiment side, I'm going to have to spend the extra cash to do so.
Home entertainment is quite different though. There are no outside needs for owning a console, thus your purchase decision has no relation to your work environment.
The standardised console sounds like a great idea in theory, but you're basically going to have to build a console that is produced at a break even price, while providing technology that is somewhat more powerful than what we currently have. Who's going to make a product that just breaks even? The DVD player manufacturers had to charge excessive amounts of money, when the product first hit shelves, and 3DO had to do the same with their product. DVD really didn't have any competition, while 3DO did.
The 360 hardware really hasn't been profitable at all. It's the software that's created the profitablility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
I think he meant before the hardware was sold for more the manufacture cost. Servicing those pieces of shit fucked up their profit margin.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
The console market seems to mimic the cell phone market a little more than the DVD / home video market. Albeit there are unique intricacies to consoles. But as a whole I'm not sure if even going to one standardized formats is possible.
Companies have a different ideas of what people want. Sony thought the market should head in a more complicated direction (and maybe more sophisticated games. and so far none of the games offered really hikes up the creativity at all, and devs still complain about the complicated nature of the machine). Microsoft put its effort on multiplayer and online (of which I am a fan), and Nintendo went motion control and very little, if any, horsepower uppage. So far only Sony seems to have made a mistake. The less sophisticated Xbox hardware is proving enticing for development. Especially when cost gets out of hand so fast.
the shit you say. That ic boy post here all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Sony's problem is that they made a complicated machine that's hard to develop for. A truly sophisticated system wouldn't be such a pain in the ass to work on. The developer's challenge shouldn't be to make the system work but rather to make a game that doesn't suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
James
No it doesn't. If cell phones were as fucking retarded as game platforms, I couldn't call you on Sprint from AT&T.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
You have government regulations to thank for that one. Any kind of phone, cell or land line, is highly regulated. If the industry was left to its own devices I'm not honestly sure the two providers would interact so seamlessly.
James
And the FCC thinks its it's place to do inane commie bullshit like investigate the "legality" of AT&T having iPhone exclusivity.
Its not long before they start doing that crap to consoles too.
Yeah, no. The information communication infrastructure is vital to keeping America going. Fancy electronic toys, not so much.
James
I think a lot of what the FCC is frivolous enough, but the bottom line is that they only govern shit that goes the air and not shit that comes in boxes or even travels over wires. It's why they can't regulate cable.Quote:
Originally Posted by James
I actually work for a cable company, and I can say that the FCC does have some regulations in place. Just ask anyone who's come home and yelled at us because we had to trap their services due to signal leakage.
Actually, don't. They'll tell you it's all our fault for taking their cable away from them until we can get it fixed, and won't care in the slightest that legally we had no choice.
James
Yeah, but that's more because anything that interferes with broadcast signals is illegal, not anything about cable in particular. The reason that they don't govern cable is because the way they're framed as a federal organization is that they only regulate interstate or potentially interstate communications, which includes broadcast, phones, etc. Anything entirely local (which includes cable) is out of the scope of what they can legally govern because that's supposed to be left to the states.
The day I see GM and Ferrari make the same car is the day I can put a PS673 holographic storage module in an ZBOX47 and play the same exact game.
Different approaches for different problems.
My whole point was that the government is butting in more and more on whats "fair" outside of what really constitutes any sort of monopoly. I don't necessarily mean it would be the FCC. If the government feels its their duty to step in because the iPhone is just too popular to be exclusive to one carrier (which is so infuriatingly stupid I have no words to express it), then what's to stop them from saying "hey, Gears of War 3 is dominating the multiplayer console landscape, you better port that shit to PS3 and Wii."?
*places Street Fighter 4 disc in PS3*Quote:
Originally Posted by FPM
*places Street Fighter 4 disc in Xbox360*
*boots up Street Fighter 4 via steam*
Wait what?
Now play somebody on Steam using your 360.
Speaking of that, it's ridiculous that only one GFWL game supports cross-platform play.
Shadowrun?
I prefer the ZBOX47's "catch on fire to boost frontside bus" feature.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Lost Planet Colonies also supports cross-platform play.
lol packard bell
lol Too Human