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Originally Posted by IGN
My guess is that all of those numbers are inflated, as people who experience problems are more likely to respond to the survey. The relative magnitude should be accurate though. Yikes.
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Originally Posted by IGN
My guess is that all of those numbers are inflated, as people who experience problems are more likely to respond to the survey. The relative magnitude should be accurate though. Yikes.
Not much of a surprise. Ask Melf. :p
I wonder what the percentage of user caused failures is. If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say something like 5%, which would say that the Wii is very reliable when some dumbass isn't fucking it up.
I don't personally know anyone who still has their launch 360, myself included.
the idiots at eb took my launch 360 8)
edit: sold before it became about 30 bucks worth @ trade-in or whatever the rate is
My friend's launch Wii was busted; I've seen a few of those bad boys go down.
Nothing even close to the pretty much 100% death rate of 360s.
Still the best console ever.
This is not surprising in the least bit, to me.
The wii has off the shelf parts that have been used successfully for years.
The X-Box was poorly engineered, we get it already.
<-- on 360 #3 ..its almost that time of year for me and the 360.
My launch Wii's video card busted about six months after it came out, and then the replacement Nintendo sent me would freeze after being turned on for 45 minutes. Thankfully the second replacement has given me no problems.
My 360 froze during the first week that I had it, but I think that was because I was jamming on the guide button while Ridge Racer was loading. I feel pretty lucky that my 360 lasted almost three and a half years before getting the RROD.
I don't think I've had any problems with my PS3.
If my 360 dies, I'll buy a new one, simple as that. I don't care if it was designed poorly, it gives me the most enjoyment out of the games I play and easily allows me to play with TNL and my irl friends. I think that's a good investment even if the hardware isn't the best.
I plan on buying a new arcade unit as soon as I can. :-P I can't say I would rush out and buy a new PS3 or Wii if they suddenly died on me (Unless, like, Mario Galaxy 2 suddenly came out or, I dunno, something I can't get on the 360 for the PS3 that I really wanted to play).Quote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple
God of War 3 is the only reason I still have a PS3. Right now it's a glorified DVD player. If it failed (or my Wii, for that matter), I would have next to zero interest in getting a new one.
That's exactly how I feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple
I'd love to get a Japanese 360 so I can get in on all of those ridiculous shooters but the hardware reliability is keeping me from going through with it. At least I have an option if an American console dies. I wouldn't even know what to do with a Japanese version.
Yep, shittiest hardware =/= good console.
The Original PS1 was a pile of shit too, and the PS2 wasn't exactly stellar.
And of course...
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1250608153
Im still amazed there hasn't been a safe, reliable region mod for the console yet..Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Yeah, that kind of came up on #TNL last night. I'm getting ready to grab my own 360 finally and I was trying to think of exclusives that I want, and the Cave games and Otomedius are at the top of the list of titles that I'd like to try. Seeing how often domestic consoles fail and how I can barely convince myself to buy one of those as it is, there's no way in hell I could justify grabbing a Japanese system. Kind of a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
I still find it moderately hard to justify. My PS3 does what I need it do and somehow most of my closest friends ended up with one as well, so there's no shortage of people to play with. I'm a little bit afraid that the 360 would end up being a Netflix and Geometry Wars 2 player... that there's anything terribly wrong with that.
I'll continue to own a 360 so long as MS foots the repair bill. As soon as I have to pay for it, the 360 can GTFO. Most of its good games are on the PS3, and I'll get over not having the few exclusives there are. No amount of good games is worth going through 5-6 machines. Fuck that shit.
I'm on my third 360. No regrets.
I like my 360. I am concerned what's going to happen if another hardware generation rolls around and support stops. So I hope next gen never comes!
And it doesn't look like it will any time soon!
Who needs a next gen? Keep me here forever with my 360.
I hope that "Project Natal" shit is REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
I'll never use it. Probably. But keep the system alive for another three years or so? Yes, plz.
I'm on 360 #3 and, while the hardware truly sucks, I'll still replace when it goes down. I must be a complete sucker. Thankfully, I haven't had to pay a cent for either of the two replacement units.
James
It seems like I say this every generation, but how much better can these machines get? Also, with new features continuously being added to the 360, is there even a need to upgrade the specs? If anything, I hope Project Natal is successful just to show hardware manufacturers that you don't need to launch a new console in order to expand your market share.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
:lol: Funny that I posted my reply before seeing your's, Yeller. Glad I'm not the only one with that train of thought for Project Natal.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
I'm on a refurbed launch 360. It red ringed 2 weeks before the warranty was up and I got sent a refurbed launch system. I know it's starting to wear down since I hear a sort of grinding noise when a disc is spinning in it. I'll be buying an arcade unit as soon as I need to.
Of course one of the shoulder buttons died on my launch DS Lite after about 6 months. But they just mailed me a new unit before I even had to send mine back.
I'm still amazed that companies don't want your game dollars if you live on the wrong part of the planet in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
In my years of gaming I've never had a console fail, and I've had every one at launch other than my ps3.
What are you people doing to your systems?
I've actually shit inside my 360 and then cleaned it out with industrial-strength solvent.
I love the oh-so-informative "MY systems never break" posts, they are probably my favorite.
I'm sharing my experience.
It's just as informative as your "I'm on my 3rd" post.
Don't project your bitterness on to me about shelling out for something multiple times.
I shit in mine and didn't need to clean it, because my shit smells like daisies. Just ask kof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Same. That record was smashed by the 360. Grats M$$$$$$$$Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
I'm on my first Xbox. And my fourth Dreamcast.
I have a 360 from launch and one from May 2006. To this date, they're both still working fine (*knocks on wood*), but I can't shake the feeling that everyday for them is a gift.
Out of all the systems I've owned, the ones that I had to replace were the PSOne (disc reading problems) and the Dreamcast (also disc reading problems and noise problems). The latter I can kind of write off, though, since the system started having problems after I had lent it to a friend, who probably abused it.
I hear that sometimes in my system, too, but I've noticed that it only happens with certain games, in my case being Oblivion and Lost Odyssey. Other than those, every other game sounds normal. Thank goodness for the ability to rip the games onto the hard drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timber
I still have my Japanese 360 from launch. Should it die, I'll talk to NCSX and see if it can be repaired and for how much. If it can't be fixed, I'll buy another J360.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
If my US PS3 croaks, I'll just get another.
Coasters are a useful place to set your drink while you try to numb the pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Has anyone on TNL tried installing a more effective cooling system in their Xbox 360?
Same here, all my cartridge systems have always been fine. PS1 crapped out, got a PS2. Eventually got a PS2 slim I still have. I don't think your buddy had anything to do with the Dreamcast, I went through two of them myself... there was something about the little thing that moves the laser that would break down. I think there was a quick fix for it but whatever. Just exchanged them for used ones at EB back when I had friends there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
My 360 gave me no warning whatsoever. Perfect service for years, then one day RROD. Never worked again, just out of the blue. Now I have an elite that is quieter and has HDMI output, so not too bad.
And I shouldn't have said informative, but condescending re: my systems don't break. It's a crapshoot, I clean and take care of all my systems far more than the average person would. If it's going to break it's going to break.
It'd be cool if MS could do a 360 slim design with all new non retarded design decisions. Assuming they could do it, everyone wins.
That's part of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
My 360 didn't RRoD, but the drive died. Then when I tried to get it to RRoD it warped the wood in my old dresser and raised the temperature in my room. I've since learned not to fuck with it.
My second DC is on it's last leg, first console I ever had hardware issues with. Still bracing for the day the Turbo Duo craps out :\ .Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I have the Intercooler EX on both of my 360s. I can't say if the systems have lasted as long as they have because of them or in spite of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I'm on my 2nd 360. I have the repaired one in dry storage in my wine cellar in the event of death of the current unit.
I had a PS3 for about a month. Traded it in, never looked back. Pity too because I liked the PS and consider the PS2 as very probably the greatest console ever built.
fire hazardQuote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Oh jesus fucking christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
Don't joke about that shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Low
I've had my 360 for two years and it's fine. Thing is, I hardly play it. Maybe my luck will change when I buy Mass Effect 2...
*knocks on wood*
Check this out: http://www.amazon.com/Whisper-Max-xb...ref=pd_cp_vg_2
It's a replacement fan for the Xbox 360 that taps into the DVD drive's power source and moves a lot more air.
Do you also consider air as very probably the most beneficial gas you've ever breathed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
PS2? I dunno. I never got excited about the system, personally. I think there was always some leftover annoyance about it killing the DC so quickly. It took me a really long time to own one, and sold it after the dust got thick enough. Haven't missed it yet.
GameCube + Donkey Kong Jungle Beat = better time than I ever had on the PS2. Dreamcast + Power Stone/MvC2 = same deal. Guitar Heroes were good times, I guess?
System never really blew my skirts up like it seems to have done for everybody else. Let's not get started about how little I care about your favorite game.
So's it just void your warranty over time, or all at once?Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
edit: But, ahhhh, ahhhh, after your warranty's up, I can see it now. Hmmm.
Yellerdog doesn't like the system that has like a million excellent games in every fucking category.
You hate fun, asshole.
I hate You. Good morning.
My first PlayStation died back in 2000, I got it around Christmas '95. I bought my first PS2 back around '04, I think, and went through three of them, each was used, each Disc Read Errored me.
Never had a Dreamcast give me any problems except for my first unit. My sister kept it on the carpet during my first year of college, and it sucked up a great deal of debris. Thankfully, a can of compressed air brought it back good as new. Saturns never gave me any trouble either.
My first and only Xbox was used, and the DVD drive didn't work on it. Replaced the drive, and it worked fine.
Dreamcast: 15 good games tops
Gamecube: 15-20 GG
PS2: 100+ good games, backward compatible, online capability, played DVD's right out of box, still being supported.
Yeah Yeller, I can see why you hate it....
L. O. L.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
I never, ever said I "hated" the PS2, nerds relax. I just basically don't really care about it.
OMG maybe games are gradually becoming less imporant to me somehow? Let's get the FBI on the horn.
do you keep these in your wine cellar tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
Come on, the PS2 was a piece of shit that barely outperformed the dreamcast it was supposed to lay waste to. The PS2 hardware itself, sucked balls. If it never existed, the other consoles of the era would have had equal or superior versions of everything the PS2 ever came out with.
Just like the Wii is holding this gen back somewhat, the PS2 held last gen back tenfold.
Defend the library, because its extensive and awesome, but the console? Garbage.
Why don't you cry about it.
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I do. every night hugging my giant stuffed Sonic doll.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
9/9/09 Never forget!
don'tcrossthestreetgodowntheroad.cut/presshard
SEGA'S SECRET ANNOUNCEMENT LEAKED, MEGATON!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
Biff doesn't strike me as playing imports or fighting games, so I can actually see where this number comes from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
My 360 use to do that with some music cds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
On the topic of other systems besides the 360 breaking, I had a SNES that, after about seven years of great service, the video card started acting up (Vertical lines on everything). Also had a PS2 that would freeze...
Thankfully my launch Dreamcast is still okay, even though it no longer plays Sonic Adventure, for whatever reason.
Your DC is sentient and doesn't want to play poop games (Sonic).
My SNES has an issue with mode 7 graphics. Games that didn't use that feature worked fine though, but anything that scales using Mode 7 becomes a black line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
My launch DC died 2 weeks after the 1 year extended warranty expired. I took it to Walmart and got a replacement.
If you bought the $20 remote!Quote:
Originally Posted by Othello Harrington
The PS2 didn't need a remote to play DVDs (The original Xbox did, though, and the sucker was $30).Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
You shore? I know you didn't need it for the slim, but the OG Fatbody PS2? The first ones?
Only had 2 systems die on me. 360, which wasnt bad because I got it back in a little over a week.
And DC which I thought was dead for years, it kept reseting a few minutes into gameplay. Recently I saw a super stupid fix on youtube. You literally set a cd case on top of the CD drive without closing it. It actually works too. Pretty funny. I missed my giga wing 2 and powerstones.
My intellivision and NES are still kicking.
All models of the PS2 can play DVDs out of the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
The later "fatbody" PS2s had a built in IR port for a new model DVD remote you could use (The original PS2 required a IR sensor to be pluged in to use the original Sony brand PS2 DVD remote).
I used my fatboy for DVDs. No remote confirmed.
That was the Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
You won't even buy a better DVD player? Do you wash your clothes on a rock, too?
:cool:Quote:
So Game Informer, a magazine owned by Gamestop (the Walmart of video games), releases an article that does nothing more than basically point out that the Xbox 360 is some of the shoddiest console hardware ever made. And like a week later Sony makes a big announcement that a new PS3 is on the way for the sweet price of $299. Coincidence?
Week after next: every single title becomes available as Live DLC, Gamestop folds nationwide, everybody laugh.
Uh, yes?Quote:
So Game Informer, a magazine owned by Gamestop (the Walmart of video games), releases an article that does nothing more than basically point out that the Xbox 360 is some of the shoddiest console hardware ever made. And like a week later Sony makes a big announcement that a new PS3 is on the way for the sweet price of $299. Coincidence?
This thread alone is proof enough that MS doesn't have to care about anything. Sony can't give PS3s away and people would still be buying their 10th 360 even if it punched every owner in the nuts every time the machine was powered up on top of guaranteeably dying within 2 years.
Agreed. Occam's Razor.
Sony helped get us used to buying shitty hardware. It's funny, we all bought several replacement PS1's and PS2's, then Sony finally makes a decent piece of gaming hardware and nobody wants it.
battered woman syndrome imoQuote:
Originally Posted by dog$
n/m :\ I watched too much X-Files in 90s.
I sold off my original PS1 and PSP 1000, though they still worked, and I still have my original PS2, PSP 2000, and PS3. Keep trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I know someone that's still playing their launch 360, so the 360 has no problems either. Anecdotal evidence FTW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
My first PS1 crapped out inside of a week. Playing Raiden. So there.
I never had any problems with my psx/psone/fatty ps2 (and the latter was encrusted with filth on the ventilation)
only console I've had that's died on me so far is the 360, I rule
Is the slimline PS2 more reliable than the fatty PS2?
Depends who you ask.
Early Slims overheated. Newer ones are more reliable but very cheaply made. Fatties were generally better built, but due to age are more prone to DRE.
So the best option is to go back in time, and stock up on fatties.
Or get PS3 60 gig.
They dropped $100 at Game$top!
Put'em out of biz, will ya?
Can't. People prefer shitty prices and opened "new" games.
It's a fact.
I've heard the backwards compatibility on PS3 is piss-poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
If you are into games that require frame accurate inputs, then yes.
If you connect the PS3 via component it's fine with twitch games. It's HDMI that fucks them up due to the upconversion algorithm.
I will not comment on my 360s as not to jinx myself. And you said "we all" so anecdotal evidence is enough to disprove that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I was speaking colloquially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
caligulally imo
Is that some kind of Ferngully Caligula?
I didn't notice a difference. I've played Guitar Hero 1 on hard and it played just fine. The only problems I've had is trying to play peripheral based games like Taiko Drum Master; the drum doesn't work at all. Guitar Hero 2, and Rocks the 80's are jacked up as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
My original PS2 is still kicking, all I have to do is adjust the laser for CD or DVD games.
And to be honest the PS2 is the best game console ever made if it had achievements and good online I'd probably not even have a 360, this is what I have discovered recently.
I'd still play PC games though. That's the best game machine if achievements ever get added in correctly to every game like it should be.