Anyone Here Believe in Noah's Ark?

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Originally Posted by Othello Harrington

Mars, we get it, you hate god.

Enough is enough.

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Thats not true. I LOVE CROM! Favoritest god ever.

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Originally Posted by FuryFox

These people with the "you have faith in science because you don't know how your cellphone works" are off base, because we do know how it works: you power-on, dial your number, etc. If it stops working, we know there are a variety of experiments we can perform to discover the source of the problem (which may include "take to qualified service technician" for the less savvy).

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>_>

knowing how something operates is not the same as understanding the science behind how it works....

Like it or not, people who put faith in science when they do not fully understand it are very similar to those that put their faith in a preacher. Both are trusting in another to be correct.

Though it is arguable that the person that puts his faith in science is smarter because scientist have a better track record. But that still isn't a reason to be a dick, as some kid probably feels his family has a similarly good track record and should be trusted.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

I've already made this point, and oh so many vaginas cried.

I'm betting a lot of people say they believe in science when they really mean personal experience. Or logic. Or philosophy. They just say "science" in an effort to borrow from the credibility of others.

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LOL.

If you believe in god I look down on you as a person.

It shows an enormous amount of cognitive dissonance you're willing to inject into your daily life and your opinions on other matters are immediately suspect because of it.

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

Thats not true. I LOVE CROM! Favoritest god ever.

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I hear crom gets more vagina than the entire world combined, good choice.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

Like it or not, people who put faith in science when they do not fully understand it are very similar to those that put their faith in a preacher. Both are trusting in another to be correct.

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Science is learnable, tangible and explainable (I'm speaking broadly here). I could, if I wanted, dedicate a large portion of my time to delving into the complexities of scientific study and probably get a better understanding of how these things work. I'm just lazy, and not really very good at math, so I didn't bang my head against the wall in pursuing it.

With Religion it still just boils down to faith.

Quit bein' a dummy

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Originally Posted by Mr-K

Science is learnable, tangible and explainable (I'm speaking broadly here). I could, if I wanted, dedicate a large portion of my time to delving into the complexities of scientific study and probably get a better understanding of how these things work. I'm just lazy, and not really very good at math, so I didn't bang my head against the wall in pursuing it.

With Religion it still just boils down to faith.

Quit bein' a dummy

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then don't bring science into explaining your beliefs. Just say the whole religion thing doesn't make sense to you. Quote one of the many philosophers that have written things that you are qualified to understand. There are a ton of things you can do now, with an english degree to back up what you think without using things you don't really understand. Doing otherwise just discredits yourself.

Wow you really don't get it.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

knowing how something operates is not the same as understanding the science behind how it works....

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My point was that the way complex machines work is observable. Thus, you can use the scientific method (which really, could be called the common sense and critical thinking method) to figure out how a piece of technology worked, even if the eventual conclusions you would draw would be that you needed to build/obtain special equipment to run further experiments. I'm not saying it's practical, and obviously people have much to learn when things aren't working then when they are...but that's the thing, they can learn from observation and experimentation. You can learn from simple machines and move on to complex machines. You can read another's theory, test it yourself, and decide if there's practical application.

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Like it or not, people who put faith in science when they do not fully understand it are very similar to those that put their faith in a preacher. Both are trusting in another to be correct.

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I don't agree. Just because I don't know the chemical process that makes Ibuprofen work doesn't mean I have faith that it does. You take some based on the theory that it will help with your headache (or whatever), and if it doesn't, you note the results and come up with new hypotheses. If it does work, you never had faith that it would, you only conclude it did after the fact.

I take pills labeled JESUS and they make my pain go away.

My minister calls it the Pla-Jeebo effect.