New Super Mario Bros. - Wii

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Originally Posted by James

Waggle is fine in the right place. Tiger Woods, Wii Sports Tennis, etc. It's great there, and even pretty useful replicating pointing the gun offscreen to reload in stuff like House of the Dead. Although I eventually contracted that motion down to about a centimeter's (maybe?) worth of movement there.

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That's not waggle though. Waggle, to me, is specifically shaking the stupid remote. And that is never, ever useful.

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Originally Posted by Chux

Hold 1+Waggle to pick up things.
Waggle to Fly.

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AHHHH HA HA HA!!!
That's a special kind of retarded.

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Originally Posted by Chux

They really got close with Excite bike, but instead of mashing buttons to get back if you crash you waggle it. UGH. SO CLOSE NINTENDO.

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So mashing buttons is less offensive and mindless than flailing?

We're really splitting hairs now.

Yeah, either way it's the same rule, and it's a bad one. What they should have done is a Gears of War active reload type thing that flashes on the screen as you start running back to your bike. The speed of the cursor would correlate to the severity of the crash, so the harder you biffed, the harder it would be to get back on quickly. The closer you get to a perfect "reload," the faster you get back on the bike.

Then again, Active Reload is cold and calculated, and doesn't really parallel the freneticism of running back to your bike mid-race. Maybe spazzy mashing/waggling is the only way to do it.

You don't have to waggle at all with Excitebike. It prompts you to waggle to get back on the bike but you can just button mash just like the good old days.

Nice.

<- Still doesn't get how mashing is nicer than waggle.

Your fingers are pressing buttons just like the last 30+ years of controlling games. Waggle has you swinging shit around like a fucking fly swatter. What is so fucking hard to understand?

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Originally Posted by Hero

<- Still doesn't get how mashing is nicer than waggle.

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Mashing is l33t. Only scrubs waggle.

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Originally Posted by Glass Joe

Your fingers are pressing buttons just like the last 30+ years of controlling games. Waggle has you swinging shit around like a fucking fly swatter. What is so fucking hard to understand?

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- Both require no "skill" to do.
- Both function as a spastic physical action to get a desired result.

The only difference is the measure/method in which its implemented. Waggle has you flailing your arm/wrist while mashing has you smashing your fingers/flailing your wrist. Only other difference is one method is seen as more acceptable, by no other practical virtue than its been around since the inception of console gaming.