Game for a Skeptic

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Originally Posted by rezo

I wonder what the video game equivalent of this would be.

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Snood?

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Originally Posted by dog$

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Denim is the infantile uniform of a nation in which entertainment frequently features childlike adults ("Seinfeld," "Two and a Half Men") and cartoons for adults ("King of the Hill"). Seventy-five percent of American "gamers" -- people who play video games -- are older than 18 and nevertheless are allowed to vote. In their undifferentiated dress, children and their childish parents become undifferentiated audiences for juvenilized movies (the six -- so far -- "Batman" adventures and "Indiana Jones and the Credit-Default Swaps," coming soon to a cineplex near you).

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None of this has anything to do with clothing, so I think that if this entire paragraph were omitted, the article would be more effective and focussed. I really don't understand why he even bothered to write it.

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It's part of his greater point that Americans, by his estimation, are a bunch of big children these days. I love how he points to the '50s as the era of real men, when adults on TV were serious fucking business and, yeah, adults wore jeans, but those were rebellious jeans, see, so free pass!

And the most popular show in the '50s was I Love Lucy, but he's acting like the proliferation of childlike adult sitcoms started with our generation in Seinfeld. Whatever, asshole! Excluding every post Yoshi has ever composed, that Will article is one of the most poorly supported arguments I have read on the internet in recent years.

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Originally Posted by rezo

I wonder what the video game equivalent of this would be. Maybe including Microsoft Excel in a list of most artistic games ever and telling everyone who disagrees to fuck off.

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You Have To Burn The Rope. Maybe Lose/Lose.

Apparently he's not always an idiot, he's just not someone who really understands anyone born after 1950. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_F._Will
If this were April 17th, 2009, it would be appropriate to respond with an article about how smug smiles, stupid glasses, hair pieces, and striped ties are symbols of hypocrisy and that men who wear blue shirts with black pants aren't allowed to use a negative tone when talking about what someone else wears.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1259026071
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1259026229
Jeans are very comfortable and durable! But i'm sure he'd point out that anyone who missed his obvious sardonicism more than likely wears jeans.

ugh, he reminds me of that part of the south I don't like.

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Originally Posted by Gymkata

Id say that if you are sitting down with a non gamer and are trying to convince them that your hobby that is as legitimate as the TV shows, books or movies that they watch;

You are wasting your time.

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WHY WON'T ANYBODY BELIVE ME THAT GRAND THEFT AUTO IS AS FOR NORMAL ADULTS AS "TWO AND A HALF MEN" WHY!!!??? IT IS SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Probably because you're wearing jeans.

Also, that jerk is wearing glasses. We don't need glasses anymore. They come from a time when discs of angled plastic or glass had to be suspended in front of peoples' eyes via rims and stems of wire so they could see better. The only people who still need glasses are kids, because they are more durable than contacts. Therefore, Wills = emotionally stunted man-boy.

Glasses are for intellectuals, Arobimi. You don't wear glasses, you're not smart.

I would like to invite Mr. George Will to a game of Love Hina on the PS2.

My vote for a non puzzle/platform/rpg game would be Portal. Of course a lot of non-gamers can't handle FPS games, especially with twin sticks, and only marginally better with a mouse.

It's a lot harder to get people into games than you'd even think, but yes in general puzzle games are a good place to start, and not necessarily action puzzlers. Games like Lolo are a good start.