Darksiders: Wrath of War

This game is coming out in a little over a month, and I'm pretty excited about it. Early teasers and cinematic trailers had me writing it off as another me-too entry in the God of War/Devil May Cry vein of action games.

However, recent previews show the game to be a more awesome mix of Legend of Zelda's adventure and dungeon-solving and God of War's combat. The story is typical revenge stuff, but I love the Heaven-and-Hell theme. The whole thing actually reminds me a bit of Soul Reaver.

The graphics seem a bit dated technically, but Joe Madureira's art style gives the game a nice look. Mark Hamill also lends his voice talent, and that's always a plus.

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It definitely looks badass. The theme is 100x better than Bayonetta to boot.

Since it's from a new developer it's hard to know what to expect but it looks awesome.

Each successive preview has the game looking better and better. I didn't even realize there was skill customization before. Probably a day one.

Love the style, and definitely looking forward trying this one out.

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Originally Posted by Nash

The whole thing actually reminds me a bit of Soul Reaver.

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I got this vibe too which is a great thing in my eyes. This game looks really bad ass.

It looks really good, but I'm not going to be buying it day one since THQ has decided to release it on the exact same day as Bayonetta. Unless they come out with a demo beforehand that ends up being better than Bayonetta's demo.

I'm just going to buy both.

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Originally Posted by bVork

It looks really good, but I'm not going to be buying it day one since THQ has decided to release it on the exact same day as Bayonetta. Unless they come out with a demo beforehand that ends up being better than Bayonetta's demo.

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Different strokes for different folks. You're comparing a demonic Zelda to Devil Chick May Cry here. Are you jonesing for a hook shot or she kicks high?

The combat in both games is definitely from the Devil May Cry school, which is why I am drawing a comparison.

Apparently I'm the only person who notices that the designs look ridiculous and the dialogue sounds ridiculous and the game has a ridiculous name.

I mean...looks great!

No, it's pretty average for what you'd expect in a videogame made by folks who grew up around comics and videogames. That said I'd like to try it out - Joe Mad was an inspiring artist for me back in high school. Nice to see he finally finished something since then...

...I kid, I kid!

No kidding. I remember when this was supposed to come out last generation and the title was The Four Horsemen. (Not to mention Battle Chasers, which I guess he's just never going to get back to at this point. :cry: )

10 Reasons why Darksiders will own you!

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10. Old-School
It's been mentioned so much already, but deserves another (and its own point), and that is this is a very old-school gaming affair (with current-gen flair). The borrowed gameplay elements and foundations that draw upon such influence as The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Metroid and the Metroid Prime trilogy, God of War, Devil May Cry and more are reason enough to trust this is going to have the action goods, but the some of all the points mentioned above just craft a single-player experience I haven't had in a long time. If you think a lot of games are running on stale "me too" modern gaming tracks, it could be time to turn back and look at where it all came from, in a current-gen homage that more than carves its own place amidst the aforementioned list. Make no mistake, while the borrowed elements are there, Darksiders goes above and beyond to dish out its own memorable affair with a complete opus not to be missed by action/adventure junkies.

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Damn, I am superhyped for this one!

They've decided not to do a demo, which means no sale from me. Bayonetta's demo was so awesome that there is no way I will consider picking up Darksiders anytime soon after its release.

In June of this year, they were saying there was going to be a demo. When did that change?

Evidently recently. Check this post.

Considering they already have a demo, which was playable at E3, that's not a good sign. Though I guess that could have been the full game. I didn't play it that much.

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Originally Posted by bVork

Evidently recently. Check this post.

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Ah, thanks for that.

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Considering they already have a demo, which was playable at E3, that's not a good sign. Though I guess that could have been the full game. I didn't play it that much.

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I've never understood this. If they're confident enough in their game to let the press play it at E3, why aren't they confident enough to let everyone else play the parts that the press did?

No clue. There was nothing wrong with what I played. It's not a super great game, but the demo seems more likely to raise interest than not. Then again Brutal Legend had a cool demo, and that game tanked super hard. I guess they know what they're doing.

Having a demo is a double edged sword. If there was no demo for Left 4 Dead 2 I would have bought that day one. The demo changed my mind and now I don't want it at all. Having said that, I really wish there was a demo for this. I can't wait to play it.

Has anyone seen if either system is getting exclusive content for this game like GTA 4 and Tomb Raider Underworld did? I'm thinking about getting this for the PS3 but I don't want to get the shaft like I did when I bought Tomb Raider. I can't find any reviews on this game and it comes out in a little over a week.

Other than having items for Home and Xbox Avatars, I haven't heard of any exclusive content.

This game piqued my interest the moment I saw a screenshot, and those videos only make me want to try it more. I don't usually download demos of games, so that's not an issue for me. Possibly the reason they didn't release one to the public is because they weren't impressed with their outing for E3 but felt they had to have something there to play? Either way, this game looks like it will be good clean fun, and that list of 10 reasons to keep an eye out only reconfirms that feeling for me.

If you go over to the Gamestop site, the bottom of the Darksiders page has 3 videos that I haven't seen and they just make it look better than I already thought it did.

Well, Play gave it a 10. But then again, it's Play, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Originally Posted by Nash

Well, Play gave it a 10. But then again, it's Play, so take it with a grain of salt.

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Let's, uhm, be fair here, since a certain someone we all know also writes for Play: Dave gave it a 10, and that's the point to keep in mind.

(Which, actually, is ever more worth noting lately as he's gotten more than ever into the habit of proclaiming some random game every month as "possibly the best game I've ever played".)

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Let's, uhm, be fair here, since a certain someone we all know also writes for Play: Dave gave it a 10, and that's the point to keep in mind.

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I was actually going to add "Sorry, shidoshi" at the end of my post, but thought it would be more fun to leave it out. :p

That's all fine with me. The last time that I got a game that I remember Halvy raving about was Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath and I fucking loved that game.

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Either way, this game looks like it will be good clean fun, and that list of 10 reasons to keep an eye out only reconfirms that feeling for me.

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+ a good review from someone at a magazine that I've never read before!

How come Play online gives a score but the magazine doesnt? Is that so they can get the magazine quoted in commercials/ads for the game?

Picked up the game (ps3) and inside there is a 16 digit code with a serial number and it says to go to Darksiders.com. PSN codes are 12 digit so there goes that idea. There is nothing on the site about it and the paper with the code doesn't even say what its for. People at the darksiders forum have no clue too. lol

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it is probably a code for a digital comic of Darksiders. I have no knowledge, it's just a guess. I'll be picking this up in a couple of hours and I can't wait. By the way,awesome avatar there raystorm.

My copy should be waiting in the mail when I get home.

I had a $25 gift card for Toys R Us, so I grabbed this and Bayonetta since they were giving a $40 gift card away with them.
Someone please play this and tell me if I should keep it or trade it for something else.

I find it funny that a videogame store owner has to go to other retailers for deals. :p

I don't find it funny at all.
The mark up on new games is pathetic. I'm sure their margin is far better than ours, but they have to be losing money by selling these games for $20 off a piece. I'm all for making other retailers lose money on games.

Hence my graceful exit from the video game business...

I pretty much only bought stuff from you when it was heavily discounted.
Sorry Haoh.

I did the TRU deal too seeing as I already had Bayonetta two weeks ago. :) I'll try this later. If it sucks whatever. I'll trade it in quicker then.

So far I'm loving this game. The theme really takes this over the top for me. The action is really solid and the controls are great.

I had this pre-ordered at Gamestop because I wanted the graphic novel pre-order bonus, but when I went to pick it up today, they gave out all the graphic novels, so I asked for my money back and then went home and ordered it on Amazon. I'll have to wait until the end of the week to get to play it.

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Originally Posted by Nash

I had this pre-ordered at Gamestop because I wanted the graphic novel pre-order bonus, but when I went to pick it up today, they gave out all the graphic novels, so I asked for my money back and then went home and ordered it on Amazon. I'll have to wait until the end of the week to get to play it.

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They did this shit to me when I preordered MGS3 Subsistence, I never preorder anything from them again. The GS employees just ebay all the free bonus or gave them to friends.

The theme and art style are something that might be impressive to a particularly juvenile junior high student, but I'm enjoying the whole thing anyway. It manages to rise above the lame stupidity of its cliches and is a lot of fun so far. The voice acting is from uninspired Saturday morning cartoons, the character designs are straight from the school of overdesigned McFarlane toys, and somehow it all works. I don't understand how they did it but I'm glad they did.

James

War himself appears to be ripped directly off of the Arthas character model in Warcraft, but otherwise the game is decent enough so far. Seems to be more of a God of War clone than a Devil May Cry clone so far though.

This game is fantastic. It does so many things right. It first appears to be a God of War style action game and then turns into a full blown Zelda style adventure with God of War gameplay. It's like they made the perfect mix of God of War, Soul Reaver, and Zelda. It also has some great bosses.

Loving it so far. It is a good mix of GOW, DMC and Zelda. As much as first time my wife watched me play this, she mentioned GOW and DMC right off the bat.

I just finished off the first big boss in the game and I like the game a lot. I get such a Soul Reaver vibe out of it. I'm playing on the hardest difficulty (Apocalyptic) and its not so bad. Some of the big mini-boss like enemies can just wipe your life down in two hits and this one mini-boss The Jailer killed me in one hit (lol) but its all good.

Game is awesome.

It really is, I'm on my way to the 3rd boss and they continue to throw new gameplay at you. I loved the area on the way to the first boss that was like Panzer Dragoon Orta, that was as fun as it was surprising.

I'm with raystorm on the Soul Reaver vibe, it feels a lot like SR1. I don't want this game to end but I can't stop playing. I've got to try and put it down for a while and make it last. These types of games don't come around too often.

So this is good, huh? Maybe I'll take the plunge this weekend...although it's not easy tearing myself away from Bayonetta.

No, it's much better than good. When you first start playing it seems like it's just an action game but it slowly transforms into a full fledged adventure game that continues to throw new and creative stuff at you.

It's my favorite game this gen by a landslide but I'm a sucker for adventure games. Throw in all the "bad ass" that goes on in this game and it takes it over the top for me.

I would recommend not playing it in alongside Bayonetta. I was at a friend's and checked out DS, but after playing Bayonetta for 2 days straight, it really felt budget. I think it's a fine game in it's own right, and probably becomes a pretty good game after you've acquired more abilities and opened the story/game-world up a bit, but Bayonetta owns it pretty hard in terms of polish and playability.

If you are playing Darksiders as an action game than I guess I can understand what you mean. I played the demo of Bayonetta and it bored me to the point that I didn't bother finishing it. I got tired of DMC after part 1. If you want an action game just play Bayonetta, if you want the most bad ass adventure game we've received in years get Darksiders.

Glass Joe...OR SHOULD I SAY GLASS JOE MADURIERA???

:lol: No, I just REALLY love this game. To finally get some great action into an adventure game is a breath of fresh air to the genre. I'm sure the game will bomb since I haven't seen one shred of advertising for it and we'll never get another but it is something not to be missed by adventure fans.

I plan on spending most of tomorrow with it. If you are wrong and it sucks cocks, I have Bayonetta to fall back on. I really do hope you aren't wrong though.

I rented both this and Bayonetta, and have since only played Bayonetta for about 20 minutes. This on the other hand has gotten my full and complete attention.

I'm at Tiamat and I'm kinda stuck. I do the whole throw sticky bombs at her 3 times and detonate em thing, and get her down on the ground where the QTE demands I smack her in the face....but then after that I'm not quite grasping what to do next.

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Originally Posted by Error

I rented both this and Bayonetta, and have since only played Bayonetta for about 20 minutes. This on the other hand has gotten my full and complete attention.

I'm at Tiamat and I'm kinda stuck. I do the whole throw sticky bombs at her 3 times and detonate em thing, and get her down on the ground where the QTE demands I smack her in the face....but then after that I'm not quite grasping what to do next.

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After you smack her down she'll lay there for a few seconds and you just slice n' dice until she recovers, run back and she'll do that qte thing again. Just keep repeating that a few times. At least thats what I did. If anyone has a better way please chime in.

I kinda HATE this part, since aiming sucks :(, its quite hard to lock on both torche and sticky bombs, while trying to dodge her fireballs. Yeah, she does the patters of 3 attacks and hover, but it still very convoluted to aim for the bombs stuck to her, since they are so small :(

After beating the second big boss I started to wonder around to look for stuff when all of a sudden an english gentleman ghoul guy came outta nowhere to pick a fight. Gives you decent souls when you beat him. I don't know what that guy is all about at the moment.

The one thing that's worried me is how pedestrian adventure games have become, and how one-track action games have become. Sure they're both doing great things for their respective strengths, but I remember when games could be both action-heavy AND adventure savvy. What we end up with now is killer combat on a straight line (DMC, Bayonetta) or adventure games with a fight every other hour or so (Okami, Zelda). Sounds like Darksiders is a nice compromise?

I don't have a problem with the aiming. The game insists that you master the controls and it will kick your ass until you do. As for Tiamat, knock her out of the sky with the bombs, avoid the dive bombing, then knock her out of the sky with bombs again. After that you just battle her on the ground.

Game looks like fun, but the character design looks fucking horrendous.

With some practice, got thorough the boss just fine. Actually aiming right and sticking the bomb right into her maw, preventing her from firing was fucking badass. Game's awesome.

Also, I LOVE character designs, I don't see what so horrendous about them?

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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

Game looks like fun, but the character design looks fucking horrendous.

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What do you find wrong with them? As much as Batman:AA was my favourite game last year, I would have liked them to use art like this instead of the plastic look of Unreal Engine 3 graphics.

I love the art direction of this game.

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Originally Posted by Despair

With some practice, got thorough the boss just fine. Actually aiming right and sticking the bomb right into her maw, preventing her from firing was fucking badass. Game's awesome.

Also, I LOVE character designs, I don't see what so horrendous about them?

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Yup.

It starts off and you're thinking "God of War", and it continues this way for a little while. Then you hit the first "dungeon" and you start thinking "Zelda."

Possible good news for those of us who fit into the second category:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1263012612

Over at some other forum, a developer mentioned the possibility of a PC port:

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One of our points to discuss (other than DLC) is a PC version. Originally we had one planned, then we changed our minds, then it came back, and then went again. As there's been a lot of people asking for a PC version, we need to confer with THQ if a PC would be beneficial to put out there.

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Here's hoping that they actually do this. I'd like to play the game but Joust said it runs at 30fps and I'm pretty much used to 60fps in my neo-brawlers at this point.

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Here's hoping that they actually do this. I'd like to play the game but Joust said it runs at 30fps and I'm pretty much used to 60fps in my neo-brawlers at this point.

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No offense here but this is one of the dumbest reasons I've ever read for not wanting to play a game.

Here is an interview done by Dave Halverson. I know he always goes way overboard on the hype train but in this case, he is right on point. http://www.playmagazine.com/index.ph...contentid=1990

Man, for me holy shit moment was when: Heavy armored angel shows up, you rip the Gatling cannon off him, and proceed to blow shit up Terminator style across the level, while competing with Fat Bastard who gets more angel kills.

The path to the 2nd boss gets quite puzzle heavy.

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Here's hoping that they actually do this. I'd like to play the game but Joust said it runs at 30fps and I'm pretty much used to 60fps in my neo-brawlers at this point.

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Heh, I was the one who asked about the PC version over there. If it actually does happen, I will buy the game again.

But, to deny yourself the awesomeness that this game is because of the framerate is silly. Here is a new company in Vigil, with a new IP, and they produced a quality title on their first release means they deserve some success.

Playing it now. On my way to Tiamat. Screen tears constantly and its very annoying. I'm not of the designs either, but they're not HORRIBLE. I'm happy with it overall so far. Biggest challenge so far is the fiery dude that blows up.

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Man, for me holy shit moment was when: Heavy armored angel shows up, you rip the Gatling cannon off him, and proceed to blow shit up Terminator style across the level, while competing with Fat Bastard who gets more angel kills.

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Great moment for sure but I owned his ass in angel kills

Yep, I scored more kills as well. I wonder if you get bonus item only when you win the challenge, or no matter what.

Screen tearing is annoying, quite a blemish on otherwise great time.

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Also, I LOVE character designs, I don't see what so horrendous about them?

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I find the painfully generic. I'm not talking about the rendering style or making things look like real metal instead of super bloom unreal engine 3 metal. I mean the overall design of the characters. I'm just really sick of the 7 foot tall 350 lbs muscle mass. I feel like a lot of these characters could be taken from this game and dropped into quite a few others and you wouldn't notice. It's the whole giant knight in spikey armor thing.

I still think the game looks fun as hell, and will definitely play it at some point, I just find the character design generic.

Just beat Tiamat. What a pain in the balls.

Is there any difference between the PS3 and 360 versions? Does the PS3 version have better AI?? :lol:

Well, I play on playing the game eventually. It's just that I'm most likely to end up renting a console version (in April or something when the deluge of games has subsided), while I'd probably end up buying a superior PC version.

Beat tiamat, now wandering the hollows trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do with these train carsI understand the move the subway car to let me climb thing, but that just brings me back to the top.

you need to switch the lowcart and tall cart around, push it in, and go the the RIGHT side tunnel, up the wall using demon growth.

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Is there any difference between the PS3 and 360 versions? Does the PS3 version have better AI?? :lol:

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I found this:

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I dunno where some of the info in this thread is coming from...The video head 2 heads state the 360 version has a better framerate than the PS3 version, not the other way around

"Here's where things get more interesting. There are a handful of noticeable differences between the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions of Darksiders. While both are good looking games, I can't clearly say one is without a doubt better than the other, and here's why. On Xbox 360, you get more vibrant colors and, in some cases, more detail, which is great considering how much skill Vigil displayed in crafting an cohesive and interesting art style and skillfully applying color to enhance the feel and tone of the world. What's less exciting to hear is that you'll run into framerate issues from time to time and there's quite a bit of screen tearing, even in cases where you're simply walking and keeping the camera still, which can will noticeable and annoying. It's not going to ruin your play experience unless you're ultrasensitive to that kind of thing, but it will stand out.

With the PlayStation 3 version, the amount of screen tearing seems to be noticeably less. It's still present in some capacity, but to less of a degree than with the Xbox 360 version. Unfortunately, this comes along with an experience that isn't quite as smooth[meaning more framerate drops] and a more subdued color palette. If you're playing only on PlayStation 3 this isn't something you're going to notice as much since it's still a fine looking product, but it's more obvious when you put both versions next to each other.

Basically, the Xbox 360 version looks better but has more screen tearing. There also doesn't seem to be an install for the PlayStation 3 version, whereas you can dump the Xbox 360 version onto your hard drive if you've got 6.6 GB of free space.

I say all this just so you know that when I list the Xbox 360 version as being the better one, I'm only doing so because it was prettier. If you detest screen tearing, I'd recommend you stick with the PlayStation 3 version. "


360 version patch:

"The word of mouth surrounding Darksiders has generally been positive, but one issue that's emerged early on is persistent screen tearing in the Xbox 360 version of the game. However, Vigil Games representatives have said that they are aware of the problem, and are working on a fix.
Speaking with IGN, Vigil Games head Joe Madeuira said, "It's something that's really not a difficult fix for

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360 version now.. PC version later

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you need to switch the lowcart and tall cart around, push it in, and go the the RIGHT side tunnel, up the wall using demon growth.

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Thanks. I actually did that, and thats what i meant by i'm at the top now wtf. I didn't realise that i had to go back out the tunnel you originally come in, or else thats a very similar looking tunnel.

This game is awesome

I need two more armor pieces though. And one Legendary item

Everyone is playing this faster than me. I just fought Tiamat last night, despite getting it on Tuesday. I need more hours in my day.

What's the big deal with Tiamat, though? Lock on, grab and toss bomb, take two seconds to manual-aim sweeping cursor past a handy torch, repeat once. I died twice because of screwing around, and then blew through with no problems. I've seen a lot of complaining about this boss but she's pretty easy.

James

I just picked this up and got about an hour with it before my kid took over the TV. So far I've really like what I've seen.

This isn't going to be another boring shitfest like Okami is it?

No but you might encounter a progression-breaking bug like I did.

I can no long equip a particular item...20 hours down the drain


Almost at the end too

The characters don't speak in animal crossing language do they?

No Cow, they speak like Scott Stevens, all devilish and demonic. Rest easy, it's Zelda with a very western slant.

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No but you might encounter a progression-breaking bug like I did.

I can no long equip a particular item...20 hours down the drain


Almost at the end too

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Details, please. I haven't heard of this and would like to avoid it if at all possible. Not throwing away 20+ hours of gaming is worth potential spoilers.

James

I wish I could tell you but I can't. Just all the sudden I can no longer use one of the items...I can assugn it and everything, but when I use the Dpad to select it, it makes the equipping sound but it just keeps the previous item equipped. I tried a lot of different things to "unstick" it. I am just going to wait until I hear someone else with the issue. It seems like something that could be fixed, but then again, if it only ever happens to me, it won't be fixed. I emailed THQ but I am sure that will get me nowhere


I should say that I do have a save that's 2 hours before where I am, but I spent that going through the dungeons again to get the chests I missed. Don't want to do that, and then not be able to use the thing again

I'm not totally out of luck yet...this guy

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genme...topic=52996929

has it too and so have others that got it to work. I had this happen with another item as well, but when I did what they did, it worked. This time, no dice.

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No Cow, they speak like Scott Stevens, all devilish and demonic.

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Holy shit! Sold!

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Rest easy, it's Zelda with a very western slant.

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Er, wait, how far away from Zelda does the western slant take it?

Well, you get a Navi character to guide you, but instead of some fruitcake, you get Mark Hamil doing his best "I swear I'm not doing my Joker Voice" voice. The game play is somewhat similar to Zelda if Link were allowed to chain combos together ala a certain God of War. And it's based off of a western religion.

I mean hell, you get to rip the wings off of Angels. What more do you need??

I think this game will appeal to non-Zelda fans both in theme and gameplay. Zelda's just one of many influences seen in it. The game may be more adventure-like than God of War or DMC but it's also more action-focused than Zelda or Metroid. And it's making want to play Soul Reaver again which was a game I liked but never played very far into.

I'm at the beginning of The Hollows now. I'm impressed with the level of polish in the game, especially for a new developer. You can tell they were given a large budget for this and put a lot of effort into it. Will it rank among the best action-adventures ever? My gut feeling says no. As cool as its world is, it doesn't have the same level of unique appeal to me as say Beyond Good & Evil or Shadow of the Colossus.

Also, so far I feel the adventure aspect could be developed a little more. The puzzles are mostly deja vu from past games, pretty standard switch hitting stuff. It's too lenient on telling you where to go (I wish the map didn't show you the entire area before exploring it). The game does seem to get better as it progresses, though, so I'm not going to give a full judgement yet. I am enjoying it a lot. It's nice to have a game like this with some challenge in the combat. If it gets even harder, it will provide more incentive to explore for upgrade items, something recent Zeldas have been lacking.

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Well, you get a Navi character to guide you, but instead of some fruitcake, you get Mark Hamil doing his best "I swear I'm not doing my Joker Voice" voice. The game play is somewhat similar to Zelda if Link were allowed to chain combos together ala a certain God of War. And it's based off of a western religion.

I mean hell, you get to rip the wings off of Angels. What more do you need??

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You're an amazing salesman. Though you typed too much. All you needed was "Scott Stevens and Mark Hamill." I wish this PC issue was more clear, because I have so much I need to play that waiting would not be a big deal at all.

I feel like buying this just to support the developer but it will cut into my building a pc budget! DECISIONS

I just finished this and it was fantastic all the way through, it even had an ending to match the rest of the game. They fixed so many things that usually suck about the genre like box pushing and ledge shimmying. I really loved how they kept throwing fresh things at you all the way through. This is easily my favorite game this gen.

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And it's making want to play Soul Reaver again which was a game I liked but never played very far into.

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If you enjoyed the things that made the original Tomb Raider great you really need to play through Soul Reaver. It is pretty much vampire TR with spectacular boss fights.

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I feel like buying this just to support the developer but it will cut into my building a pc budget! DECISIONS

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It's too early to build a new PC anyway. We don't even know The Old Republic's specs yet.

Honestly I only care to have one by Starcraft's drop so I guess I'm not in a rush. I'd like to be able to watch hd video on my comp though.

I forgot your current PC needs carbon dating to determine its age.