This Just In: Nintendo Doesn't Get It

NSMB Wii also has waggle and is fun. But the waggle tries its best to ruin the game!

Play games that don't have waggle.

When I was a small boy i remember someone in the bathroom saying that if you waggle your wii more than three times after you are done, you're offically playing with yourself.

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

The problem with the PS3 for some consumers is the fact that there isn't a lot of exclusives worth playing.

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:wtf: The PS3's exclusives beat the living shit out the 360's in volume and quality. I thought this was just accepted as fact around here now. Perhaps you mean perception of Wal Mart shopping troglodytes?

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Originally Posted by Melf

Devs weren't making shitty Atari games because they were trying to shoehorn in a crappy gimmick though. So many potentially good Wii games (and others that are excellent otherwise) have suffered from having crappy motion controls added just because it's there. Some devs did it right (Metroid Prime 3, RE 4), but the majority haven't. Even Nintendo itself is guilty. I know I really didn't want to shake the fucking wiimote to pick up things in NSMB Wii, and while it didn't break the game, it didn't add a damn thing to it. It's motion control for motion control's sake, and it needs to stop.

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Indeed we don't want motion control for motion control's sake. That's still a dev problem. The industry shouldn't stagnate and avoid potential innovations just to "keep lazy devs" in check. Some games have done motion control well. Even RE4 Wii did certain waggle bits quite well.

Some devs can control themselves, Enix didn't make DQ IV and V on the DS have any touch elements. They could have but didn't. Eventually after the tech isn't so damn new (after a gen or two) devs will either figure out good ways to use it or ignore it. If it gets ignored enough then perhaps Nintendo and the other guys will drop it from their consoles but to write it off because it's not doing so well and devs are being lazy with it is no reason to write it off. Be pissed at other consumers that don't demand better before buying.

There has never been a game that benefitted from waggle.

It doesn't belong.

Little Big Planet, MGS4, Demon's Souls, inFamous, Ninja Gaiden Sigma... plenty of great PS3 exclusives. The reason to buy the 360 is Live.

Buttons are precise. Waggle is imprecise. No game benefits from sloppy controls.* The imprecision requires devs to make the games very easy, compounding the error.


*Except for that drunk driving flash game: http://flashgamesite.com/play656game.html

I posted this in the Wii thread, but it deserves a second mention.

Capcom is cutting back on Wii support. It seems a third company (after EA and Sega) has finally realized that games made for people over 12 don't sell on the system.

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Originally Posted by Melf

I posted this in the Wii thread, but it deserves a second mention.

Capcom is cutting back on Wii support. It seems a third company (after EA and Sega) has finally realized that games made for people over 12 don't sell on the system.

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"How could Nintendo, yet again, try and claim back this lost [hardcore] audience? Leave your thoughts below..."

Here's how Nintendo can do it: Publish the Metroids, Marios and Zeldas on PS360. Release the casual games on the Wii. Nintendo will make even more money and everybody will be happy.