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Ryan, are you familiar with this beer or is it the first barleywine you've had? Was it from this recent release? Vintage?
I would agree the style ages very well. I would disagree that it has to be aged. Unbalanced beer doesn't taste as bad as Ryan described.
I've had plenty of hog heaven, old stock, below decks, horn dog, etc at release that tasted fantastic before aging. There's no way southern tier would let an oxidized/infiltrated beer out on the market. I call shenanigans.
'Fresh' barleywines certainly aren't for everyone.
Idk if you don't like fresh you probably don't like the style. I participate in vertical tastings on the regular and while there is definitely a change in character, it is a subtle one in terms of style. More "relaxing" imo.
I have some back burners going back a few years. I'll pick up the new one and do a vertical at home this week and do a true test.. Thanks for the inspiration :)
LOL, sure, no problem. A good barleywine will change in character for up to 5 years and degrade after that. A year 3 or 4 should be markedly different from this year's release.
I've had fresh, and 3 year old
I've had fresh, and two year old Backburners. They are fucking radical.
I'm thinking you just don't like the style.
yet
I do like the style - I was trying to figure out why Ryan might not have liked it. I doubt it's a storage issue.
5 cases Nugget Nectar was all we got. And it's gone. :(
SADNESS. I almost feel bad about using 2 bottles in my oxtail stew but it turned out SO FUCKING GOOD
None of my places have Nugget Nectar.
super SADNESS.
Nugget Nectar's usually pretty easy to find. You might want to find a better place.
EDIT: Oh wait, are you in PA or NJ? I don't know as much about what's in PA.
I live in the boondocks of Mays Landing, NJ. There are TWO liquor stores both owned by Canals. That's fucking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I like the fact the owner of the store told me that in the Spring is when Troeg's Nugget Nectar is out, yet Hubs and Haoh both say they have them, been drinking them, and sold out of them. i AM SO FUCKING SCREWED.
SEE ALSO: MAD AS FUCK. Oops caps lock was on. oh well.
You drive these days? There's gotta be something around there if you're willing to drive 20 minutes.
It can be hard to be a beer fan without a car. I live in ghetto as New Brunswick where the liquor stores all cater to idiot college kids and homeless people, who seem to share similar tastes in adult beverages. I hike all the way to South Plainfield to get the good stuff.
Technically this is spring for beer releases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
I'm familiar with Barley Wines. A couple weeks prior I had a recently released 3floyds Behemoth and loved it. I also enjoy King Henry and Horn Dog. This Southern Tier was from a recent release. I'm intrigued now, I'll pick up another bottle from a different store and give it another go.
In other news, tried Bear Republic's Red Rocket Ale and it has become one of my new favorites.
Advocate: I got allocated 5 cases for my first shipment. Hopefully, we'll get more 6pks and 22's (which I haven't gotten any yet). We're a pretty big store and usually get as much or more than anyone else in the area. I'll post here if I come up with some more. Had I known before today, I would've saved you some.
I love Oxtail stew. Seriously. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
I still don't drive, but I do have a legal license. (see: can't afford a car yet.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
which angers me and I'm aiming my anger at that Liquor Store owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
I'm embarrassed to admit this, but lately I've been in a Bud Light mode. Maybe because it's what I drink in the spring/summer to stay svelte.
Drink one tasty Saison instead of two Bud Lites.
I dunno, dude.
There's nothing wrong with craving dry light flavored beer once in a while. It happens to all of us. Doing it because you think it will keep you thin means the marketing is working and you need to be de-programmed.
Well I mean. A Bud Light has 110 calories. I was drinking Smuttynose Porters and those are 177 each. Those add up! It's also almost like water so it won't bother me as much. Although IPAs (drinking Righteous Rye right now) aren't bad.
Genetically engineered ground chuck has less calories than grass fed filet.
5.7 abv on the porter. 4.2 on the bud.
177 calories on the porter. 110 on the bud.
Can one of you big dick math motherfuckers figure out what provides a better alcohol to calorie ratio? I believe we are using "get wasted" as a goal here.
I would gladly do this, but I straight up don't get down with math outside of music.
Well, if it were to get wasted I'd just drink liquor. I mostly do. But for long hauls and ease on wallet, Bud is just cheaper.
I'll eat genetically engineered food. I'm not a food asshole.
My analogy wasn't as good as joshs ha!
Had my last Rhydant Beer tonight. Tasted kind of like a dry cider maybe?
I dug it.
Cheap beer snob protip: Zywiec Porter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
1) It's a great beer, rated 98 on ratebeer.
2) It's $1.80 for a 500 ml (17 oz) bottle.
3) It's 10% ABV
4) Better calorie/alcohol ratio than Bud Light
I really can't even choke down Bud Light if it's free at a party. It's just terrible.
The words "bud light" should not be allowed in this thread.
Bud Light is great if you're in the country illegal, get paid hilariously low wages, drink all day, and don't want to draw attention to yourself.
Uptight fuckers up in here. I'll try the porter, I guess. A 4-pack is $5.
Liquor License Get!
Someone protested it and we had to fight it in court - Jesus ruins everything.
Hub, what was your mark-up at the bar?
I wish I could see the person that protested it ha!
Pm me for numbers
Also are you legally able to give us details on this cunt?
So I got a chance to try Backburner on tap yesterday. It was excellent. Something was definitely wrong with the bottle I had bought.
Maybe it wasn't sealed properly and air got in it? Happens sometimes with caps not being set right. Once the air gets in, it's all down hill. It's happened at our store - even sometimes a case gets dropped, nothing breaks, but the seal on one of the bottles gets fucked up.
Oxygen. Heat. Sunlight.
Why would opening an older Belgian or Belgian style beer cause it to freak out and explode? This has happened with three beers in three weeks.
Finally, got some Nugget Nectar ... will try tonight. The owner of the store went to his other store across town and picked up a case. I bought the last pack.
I also picked up WoodChuck Winder brew and Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout.
I think I may let the Stout age a bit.
Bottle conditioned? They hit that shit with live yeast and fermentable sugar right before it goes out. The longer it sits, the more natural carbonation buildup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I have 2 bottles of Tactical Nuclear Penguin.
Yeah, it makes sense. The explosion is a little absurd. Bottle conditioned beers usually pour an excessive head... But shooting a beer fountain multiple feet into the air?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
I store all mid to long term beers at 55 degrees. Should I get it to a different temperature before opening? Will it help? If I open another beer I've been holding for years and lose 75% of it I'm gonna be way bummed.
I have one. I hear it tastes like month old beef jerky.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
It tastes exactly like you think it does.
Josh that is a great question! I'll ask a professional when I get to work later
Brewmaster said get it as cold as possible, be careful not to agitate the bottle, then have glasses or a pitcher ready to catch that shit.
Opened a 750 of cork n cage cider last night and the cork put a dent in the ceiling.
Half way through twisting the cage it just shot off.
I usually let it sit for a couple minutes after moving it. I'll give this a shot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
Get it cold as fuck, open it, let it breathe then pour about 15 minutes later.
Think this'll work? I like beers around 55-60 degrees. Tastes more like beer to me and less like cold. I could always ask Stillwater dude.. It's mostly his beers that explode.
I think he meant have something to catch the instant explosion of head. It will eventually become beer, right?
There is no catching this. I'll try to get video next time.
Just got one of my ebay purchases in the mail. 4 minis of Old Fitzgerald 100 proof bourbon bottled in 1974. Stitzel Weller juice. I can't wait to crack these.
Sounds truly amazing.
On my end, I got some Sam Adams Imperial series Doublebock. It's pretty damn intense.
Two year old Big DIPA for band practice tonight. I expect to get nothing accomplished. :tu:
Sweet! Plus we still have some Raison in the fridge and other things.
Is Raison that DFH beer or is it a type of beer?
Just noticed this. We live about 15 minutes away from the Bear Republic brewery, and their stuff really is amazing. Their Peter Brown Tribute ABA is my all-time favorite beer. I try to stop in there at least once a month for a pitcher and a Jamaican Jerk Burger. Good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Thirded on Bear Republic.
Racer 5 and Hop Rod are the only other two that seem to be carried here. They were both equally epic.
3floyds is selling tickets this Saturday for their upcoming Dark Lord Day, the only day and place where you can buy their Dark Lord Russian Imperial Stout. My friends and I plan on going.
Worth it.
I got a case of the Racer 5 bombers for $30.
We're selling them for $9.
Which are those?
Bear Republic Racer 5 IPA.
The dogfish beer. I'm not astute enough to know all types of beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Oh. I see those everywhere in NY. I've always skipped them, though. Are they that good?Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
I hate this beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
Absolutely (assuming you like IPAs). Give it a shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Really? What do you not like about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I had two years ago and they were just, I don't know, not delicious to me. I'd rather have a 60 Minute.
Maybe try again? Taste buds change.
Pretty much. The first time I had a Palo Santo I thought it tasted like dirty butts.
Their 60 Minute will always be king in my heart.
I just had the Racer 5. It's okay. I don't see the big deal. It's definitely the most mellow IPA I've ever had but I'm a fan of the bite.
75 minute has been bottled. Fucking right on.
There's such a thing?
Its a bottle conditioned blend of 90 min and 60 min with some maple syrup in it. Good stuff. Big bottles only. Get that ass to the store: http://www.dogfish.com/brews-spirits...minute-ipa.htm
Buy two. Drink one. Save one. Thank me in a year.
I also picked up their gluten free beer. I'm pretty curious.
Time to get my ass to Eataly.
Might want to see if Haoh can get you one. It was $10 in Baltimore. I can't even imagine how hard you're gonna get gouged.
Probably not that bad seeing as how Eataly is owned partially by DFH and they always have their beers at better prices than grocery stores.
Update: $9 a bottle. My mistake.
Tweason could be diarrhea.
I'm not optimistic, but I still want to try it.
I didn't hate it, but I won't be having another.
kinda like a half beer, half tart strawberry cider sorta thing. Not a fan.
It's pretty gross and sub-par.
Gluten free beer isn't food.
I think I know now after waking up why they call it an Irish Trashcan.
Yeah, that gluten free fucker kinda sucked. It is totally not beer. It might work at band practice... We'll see.
Local place started stocking Monk's Cafe Sour Flemish Ale. I'm pretty excited. It's wonderful.
Had a Deviant Dale's Imperial IPA last night. Probably my favorite style of beer and this one pulls it off nicely.
It just started getting bottle distribution. We got it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me
Got it in Baltimore too. It isn't as sour as the name implies.
Pappy Van Winkle started shipping the spring allotment of bourbon a couple weeks ago. CA's has not arrived yet but I think a lot of the east coast already has theirs. If anyone stumbles on a bottle of the Pappy Van Winkle 20 year in their liquor store travels they should grab it. If you're not interested in it for yourself then grab it for me please. I will reimburse cost + shipping for multiple bottles of Pappy 20. I can also hook you up with some west coast stuff to return the favor. I will be hitting the Bruery tasting room sometime soon where they sell many, many special editions that aren't available anywhere else.
The Pappy 20 should be in the $100-$130 range, if it's closer to $200 they are price gouging and I'm not interested. I'm not interested in the 15 year either, since that has changed to a different source already.
I wish I was rich.
Bourbon is cheaper than beer. There are about 15 drinks in a 750 ml bottle, so about $7 per pour from a $100 Pappy. Now think of all the $7+ bottles of craft beer you drink. My pours aren't even that big so i get more like 20 drinks from a bottle. Also consider that Pappy is one of the most expensive bourbons. There are great ones that cost $25 a bottle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hubbitron
There are 17 shots in a 750. So it's actually a little cheaper than that.. But I can't afford craft beers at $7 a bottle either. In fact I can't remember the last $42 six pack I bought. That's why I wish I was rich.
I would love to get TNL started on whiskey, but it seems there isn't much interest here. It's strange because everyone I know irl has started drinking the whiskey. Its been trending for a while.
When I do have the cash I indulge in some bookers, makers, buffalo trace, sazerac, whatever small batch is new. Bourbon, scotch, these things don't survive very long at my house
Here's some suggestions if you're interested. Next time you feel like Maker's try a W.L. Weller 12 instead (or the Weller Antique if there's no 12yo). Rittenhouse Rye Bottled in Bond is a great alternative to Sazerac. Both of those bottles are about $20-$25.
Done.
I like Scotch more, but I do like JD Honey Whiskey.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
You are the problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
You realize this is the equivalent of you saying you like Bug Light Lime, don't you?
I will try this.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy