Suddenly Finding Alcohol Revolting

I've always really loved a good beer (or bourbon) and the only socializing I tend to do is at the bar and rock shows (and the bike shop, I guess), where I usually will be found with a drink in hand.

For the past several months, though, the very thought of alcohol of any kind has been nauseating. There was no 'experience' that lead up to this, either- no brutal hangover or getting drunk and into a fight, epiphany, or anything like that. It was just like, one day (at the beach) my body just decided to do a complete 180 on the stuff and suddenly the bottle of one of my favorite wines I brought stopped looking so good (and remains unopened to this day, 4 months later). And on the 3 or so occasions since that I've had so much as a single beer, my stomach has tied itself in knots and I feel totally shitty for about 2 days.

I'm not complaining, mind you- not drinking has many perks- but I am curious as to what could cause this. In fact, I rather like it. I'm just mildly concerned that maybe it's a symptom of something else. I remember Josh having this situation when he was afflicted with flesh-consuming sickness, but thus far my appetite seems otherwise unaffected (except possibly increased to make up for the calories I used to get out of a bottle). Google hasn't turned up much for me.

Anyone else ever deal with this?

Brain slugs.
Alcohol is their weakness.

I was going to say maybe your taste buds had changed, but that doesn't explain the upset stomach. Maybe your stomach lining has weakened...my mom went through a period of time where she got acid reflux when she ate and drank certain things, some that she normally really enjoyed.


I get sick of certain foods/drink periodically though, I remember a few years the thought of hotdogs made me sick.

Not a bad place to be! I tend to have a beer or two and really enjoy it instead of getting shitty these days. Took me a while to get to this point, but it's perfect.

I've been that way with meat. Cheap meat often makes me barf or near barfy, when before i could handle anything.

You might have stomach ulcer or possibly you may have developed some type of allergy to alcohol. Just to be on the safe side, you might want to consult your doctor.

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Not a bad place to be! I tend to have a beer or two and really enjoy it instead of getting shitty these days. Took me a while to get to this point, but it's perfect.

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This. I love beer, nothing tastes better than a good pint from the tap. But I'm done with getting shitfaced.

Maybe you've just stumbled upon the fact that alcohol doesn't taste good? Imean if it did, it would be called juice.

Just saying.

EDIT: *badump-kish*

I would love to have your problem. Unfortunately I don't and can offer no advice but enjoy it.

God hates you?

I despise getting drunk nowadays. If I even attempt a 6 pack, I'll be puking. It's cheaper this way.

At some point in the last five years or so, I became a very slow drinker, at least when it comes to beer. If I go out to a bar with friends, I only order a pint every two or three rounds. I don't know if it's because of weight loss, or eating less, or old age, or what, but I just can't keep up with my friends anymore. It's not really a bad thing, and it definitely makes things easier on my digestive system the next day, but I can't think of the last time I actually got drunk.

It's been quite some time since I've been nicely buzzed thanks to alcohol, but being that way right now, I'm finding it quite enjoyable and nostalgic!

That said, I find that I'm a real lightweight at this point, so I don't drink as much as I might have used to.

sometimes, there is nothing like a fresh, frosty cold beer after a long day. Then most times, it tastes like shit.

That's because, well, beer does taste like shit.

Does not.

Beer is a wonderful thing.

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That's because, well, beer does taste like shit.

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Lies.

Shitty beer tastes like shit, good beer tastes amazing.

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That's because, well, beer does taste like shit.

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Drink better beer. I'm amazed at the shit they try to pass off for beer in this country (as far as I'm concerned Bud and Miller are malt liquor), but if you know what you're buying, there's a beer for everyone.

Coffee Beer is the New Future. Find some, try it, like it.

For a while I couldn't drink Vodka. This was after an incredible high school incident where I drank a 1:1 mix of Screwdriver out of a gallon jug in less than a half hour. Last thing I remember about that night was saying my teeth feel numb. That put a kibosh on my drinking for a bit, but eventually went to whisky. Nowadays I'll just drink a few Leinenkugels or Blue Moons and be good. Being a cheap drunk is so fucking rad.

I will admit that there is indeed a divide between "good" bear and the basic swill, but sorry, I still don't get it. I've never tried a beer that I considered to be anything but terrible, and can't understand why people would drink it by choice.

Because you're a bad person. Not evil, just not good at being a person.

Note to self: get post editing working in the mobile skin for times such as when you end up with "bear" instead of "beer" thanks to auto-correct.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

I will admit that there is indeed a divide between "good" bear and the basic swill, but sorry, I still don't get it. I've never tried a beer that I considered to be anything but terrible, and can't understand why people would drink it by choice.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

I will admit that there is indeed a divide between "good" bear and the basic swill, but sorry, I still don't get it. I've never tried a beer that I considered to be anything but terrible, and can't understand why people would drink it by choice.

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To me this is like saying "I don't like cereal." There are too many different kinds to hate them all. Personally, I'm not a big lager man, I like brown ales, stouts, bocks, quadrupels... But different people like different things. Maybe you just need try some girly beers. Young's Double Chocolate stout or a kriek, something sweet and tasty.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Drink better beer. I'm amazed at the shit they try to pass off for beer in this country (as far as I'm concerned Bud and Miller are malt liquor), but if you know what you're buying, there's a beer for everyone.

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There is better selection, variety, and quality in this country than any other.

I'm certainly not complaining about the availability of beer in the US, just the number of hicks that think Keystone Light is a beer.

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Originally Posted by Rich

There is better selection, variety, and quality in this country than any other.

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(also, while this may be true, you damn well wouldn't know it walking into any bar outside of a major city)

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(also, while this may be true, you damn well wouldn't know it walking into any bar outside of a major city)

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You're not getting much better walking into any London pub or, even worse off, any Czech bar. Well, unless you want to drink Guinness, Stella, Heineken, Kronenbourg, crappy ciders, or (in CZ's case,) Budvar.

I only exclude Germany because bars in Germany are a completely different thing. But because of the purity laws, the variety is certainly limited there.

Okay, how about this: I hate the taste of your standard American fair, I hate the taste of stuff like Guinness, Heineken, Sapporo, etc. I'm not a fan of anything that tastes like one of those beers just mixed with berries or chocolate or whatever else.

At that point, what would you recommend that I try?

Coffee beer.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Okay, how about this: I hate the taste of your standard American fair, I hate the taste of stuff like Guinness, Heineken, Sapporo, etc. I'm not a fan of anything that tastes like one of those beers just mixed with berries or chocolate or whatever else.

At that point, what would you recommend that I try?

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Except for Guinness those are all pale lagers (which are basically what I consider to be the basic shit beers that most people drink). So yeah, I don't even know where to start. Skim the pub thread and try anything in there, and I guarantee you it will at least be a different experience than what you've mentioned.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Okay, how about this: I hate the taste of your standard American fair, I hate the taste of stuff like Guinness, Heineken, Sapporo, etc. I'm not a fan of anything that tastes like one of those beers just mixed with berries or chocolate or whatever else.

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You didn't even mention an American beer, but yet call this standard American fair?

(also, budweiser products are great. go to hell)

Bud is drinkable if you are on a dock or some other place. A sporting event? Turkey hunting?

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You didn't even mention an American beer, but yet call this standard American fair?

(also, budweiser products are great. go to hell)

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I think he was saying American fair to encompass Bud, Miller, Coors, etc, and then adding other stuff he's tried (albeit mostly very similar).

I won't drink any of those. I went to a kegger a couple months ago and tried to choke down enough Miller to get drunk and I literally couldn't do it. The only cheapass beer I'll put up with is Ballantine. Which isn't good, but at least reminds me of beers I do like.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

Bud is drinkable if you are on a dock or some other place. A sporting event? Turkey hunting?

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It's not something I usually buy to take home to drink while sitting on the couch, but bud products definitely have their place. In fact, I prefer them to most similar european brands.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I think he was saying American fair to encompass Bud, Miller, Coors, etc, and then adding other stuff he's tried (albeit mostly very similar).

I won't drink any of those. I went to a kegger a couple months ago and tried to choke down enough Miller to get drunk and I literally couldn't do it. The only cheapass beer I'll put up with is Ballantine. Which isn't good, but at least reminds me of beers I do like.

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I despise Miller-- except for MGD. I've got a sore spot for it.

Budweiser American Ale is tolerable. Regular old Bud is not.

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It's not something I usually buy to take home to drink while sitting on the couch, but bud products definitely have their place. In fact, I prefer them to most similar european brands.

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In all fairness, you are a noted Substance Maniac.

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In all fairness, you are a noted Substance Maniac.

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that's like, way in the past man. Get with the times!

Well, ok. But I'm locking the cabinet under the sink if you ever visit.

Dosh, you should try a Scottish ale.

For the past 2 years or so I have been actively trying to avoid getting shit faced, but have gotten fucked up 3 times since this past month and had a blast each time. Hangover's weren't bad with good water usage and waiting after I got drunk to pass out, which is always the hard part.

I think I don't mind it for a change of pace, although I would probably have a very different approach if I got nasty hangovers the next day. Advantages and disadvantages and whatnot.


As for beer preferences, I taught myself to find what others like in most types of higher quality beer. My general outlook is that if there are many people that find a somewhat deep enjoyment in some cuisine or food product to the point of delicacy, then there must be something to it. I try my best to search for what is interesting, or what others might like, and focus on that until I start to appreciate it. I didn't always like I beer, I used to hate it, but gradually grew to appreciate it, and now am glad that I crossed that hump and have an interesting world of flavors to discover.


Oh and I really prefer german and belgium beers to the others, although I do like many American microbrews.

I like Bud. Probably my standard default beer. But whatever. It just sounds like this guy has had enough of the idea of alcohol. I think everyone goes through phases. I personally am not a huge fan of rye right now. But I used to love that shit. Doubles and triples with gingerale was my choice drink. But now it's usually just beer for me. I know I'll be back some day, but I'm enjoying the scenery where I am right now.

So let me get this straight. Vasteel grew a vagina? Man, is Shidoshi going to be pissed!

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As for beer preferences, I taught myself to find what others like in most types of higher quality beer. My general outlook is that if there are many people that find a somewhat deep enjoyment in some cuisine or food product to the point of delicacy, then there must be something to it. I try my best to search for what is interesting, or what others might like, and focus on that until I start to appreciate it. I didn't always like I beer, I used to hate it, but gradually grew to appreciate it, and now am glad that I crossed that hump and have an interesting world of flavors to discover.


Oh and I really prefer german and belgium beers to the others, although I do like many American microbrews.

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Well the great thing about beer is that even on the high end it's still pretty reasonably priced. Shitty beer is like McDonald's food -- yeah, it's a bit cheaper, but most people go for it because they don't know any better, not because they couldn't find something better for just a buck or two more.

I mean the most expensive beer you're going to find is probably like $7 a bottle. You might pay like $10 for Rochefort or Westvleteren or something (on the rare occasion you could actually find them), but that's the absolute ceiling, and it's not that far from what you'd pay for any beer in a New York bar.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Well the great thing about beer is that even on the high end it's still pretty reasonably priced. Shitty beer is like McDonald's food -- yeah, it's a bit cheaper, but most people go for it because they don't know any better, not because they couldn't find something better for just a buck or two more.

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McDonald's is delicious and so is Bud. Sure I prefer a gourmet steak, but the former has its place.

I'm not talking about McDonald's vs a gourmet steak, I'm talking about McDonald's versus a really good burger joint with some great boardwalk-style fries. You're going to pick that shit over McDonald's 100% of the time if you have any sense, and you'll probably pay like $10 to McDonald's $8 or something negligible (New York prices, sorry, break out your slide rules if you live somewhere less desirable).

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I'm not talking about McDonald's vs a gourmet steak, I'm talking about McDonald's versus a really good burger joint with some great boardwalk-style fries. You're going to pick that shit over McDonald's 100% of the time if you have any sense, and you'll probably pay like $10 to McDonald's $8 or something negligible (New York prices, sorry, break out your slide rules if you live somewhere less desirable).

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I live in NY and I still never spend more than $4-5 at McDonalds.

And there are certainly times when I would take it or BK over something awesome like Five Guys just like there are times when I'll take a Bud Light over delicious Boddington's.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I mean the most expensive beer you're going to find is probably like $7 a bottle.

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120 Minute and Worldwide Stout are both $10-$12 for a 12oz bottle. Lets not even get into older beers... there are plenty that creep up into the $200-$300 range.

Yeah... $7 a bottle is like on the low-middle range once you start getting into the big bottles. We've got a craft beer shop down the street, you have to dig to get anything under $4/bottle.

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$10... that's the absolute ceiling

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My dick.

Here is something current.

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120 Minute and Worldwide Stout are both $10-$12 for a 12oz bottle.

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I acknowledged there are some in that range, mostly shit that's made in very limited quantities or with no real distribution. It's not like wine though. You can drink very good beer without being rich.

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My dick.

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I'm obviously not talking about shit being re-sold on ebay. I just mean if you go to a liquor store. And frankly, the shit people are paying that kind of premium for is more about rarity than quality.

http://www.finewinehouse.com/Hitachi...010_f0111_0424 Standard Trader Joes fare 'round here.

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I acknowledged there are some in that range

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Show me where. I read that the most expensive beer you're going to find is probably, like, $7 a bottle, and that $10 is the absolute ceiling, which is flat out wrong.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Well the great thing about beer is that even on the high end it's still pretty reasonably priced. Shitty beer is like McDonald's food -- yeah, it's a bit cheaper, but most people go for it because they don't know any better, not because they couldn't find something better for just a buck or two more.

I mean the most expensive beer you're going to find is probably like $7 a bottle. You might pay like $10 for Rochefort or Westvleteren or something (on the rare occasion you could actually find them), but that's the absolute ceiling, and it's not that far from what you'd pay for any beer in a New York bar.

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I'm obviously not talking about shit being re-sold on ebay. I just mean if you go to a liquor store.

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Shit I just recently bought a $10 bottle of Blue Moon Grand Cru at my local liquor store that doesn't even have a good selection.

That is the absolute ceiling, you know.

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Show me where. I read that the most expensive beer you're going to find is probably, like, $7 a bottle, and that $10 is the absolute ceiling, which is flat out wrong.

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I said $10, you say $10-12, whatever. If that distinction is important, then you win. Either way it's not exactly a luxury item. I rarely see a six pack go for more than $50-60 except on ebay, and I'm not the sort of guy who likes the cheap stuff. You can drink very good for not all that much.

Here is a retail establishment that publishes their price list online.

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Originally Posted by Josh

Here is a retail establishment that publishes their price list online.

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Lo and behold there are very very few items on there for over $60 a six pack. I maintain you can drink pretty fucking well on that money.

EDIT: I may actually have to make some purchases here later.

I maintain that everything your faggy ass said in the post in question is wrong.

also: Carlsberg Vintage No.1, Samuel Adams Utopia, Tutankhamun Ale, ect.

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I maintain that everything your faggy ass said in the post in question is wrong.

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And? I never said I'm an expert, but it doesn't look like I was way off either. Why does it matter?

Because you're incapable of admitting you're wrong (we've been over this in other threads) and I have some time to kill before I go to bed.

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Because you're incapable of admitting you're wrong (we've been over this in other threads) and I have some time to kill before I go to bed.

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Except I admitted to be wrong already twice. Three times if this counts. I just don't get why you care or if there's a point.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I won't drink any of those. I went to a kegger a couple months ago and tried to choke down enough Miller to get drunk and I literally couldn't do it. The only cheapass beer I'll put up with is Ballantine. Which isn't good, but at least reminds me of beers I do like.

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Outside of Texas, those 3.2% beers are like tap-water. 4% takes on a totally different taste, but even that can't keep Budwieser from tasting like rice beer.

5% is the standard I thought. Guess it's regional, maybe?

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why you care

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I don't.

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if there's a point.

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There isn't.

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5% is the standard I thought. Guess it's regional, maybe?

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I don't think there really is a standard, but most stuff seems to be around 4.5 by my estimate give or take, but Belgian Quadrupels go up to like 10-12%, and I'm sure you can find shit higher than that (ask Josh). I don't drink light beers at all so I don't know about any of this 3% shit gamevet's talking about.

I think the strongest beer in the world comes in at 25%

Personally, I tend to enjoy beers that fall between 7-10% There is a lot of flavour there to balance out the alcohol.

Most of this talk should be in the 2010 Pub thread btw... Arjue gonna do anything about it?

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Originally Posted by Drewbacca

Guess it's regional, maybe?

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Now that I think about it, I think there actually are some places down south that regulate stronger beers. But I think the cut off is 6%, so whatever.

Here is an Alabama representative discussing the matter:

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Originally Posted by Josh

Carlsberg Vintage No.1

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that! I would like to try.

Well sir, I hope you have $10

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EDIT: I may actually have to make some purchases here later.

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Victory!

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Shidoshi's a woman, why are you giving her crap about not liking beer? It's fucking genetic.

Misogyny, yo.

PS in reference to Rich talking about cheap beer having its place and Frog saying people just don't know better:

You don't drink nice beer during beer pong. That is wrong. This is what High Life and Coors Light and Natty Bo are for.

Or you could grow up, lose the game, and drink(fight) like gentlemen. Gutter trash

Down for the count!

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Shidoshi's a woman, why are you giving her crap about not liking beer? It's fucking genetic.

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I am dating a woman that likes beer.

She likes Belgian beers, Doshi... try one of those? They have a sweetness to them.

When I play pong I always have my own beer that I drink on the side that is not garbage beer.

Who the fuck plays beer pong. Honestly.

There are girl-friendly beers out there. Chocolatey stouts or Belgian Tripels usually go over well. I drink with my female roommates all the time, actually, and one of them is a total beer nerd and brings home all kinds of interesting European brews when she travels.

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Who the fuck plays beer pong. Honestly.

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Cowutopia.

We should go to Max's when Anthony gets back from Europe. That place was the bee's knees.

I am totally in.

I know Ramon was saying he wants to go down when he gets back as well.

MD meetup?

February is good. March is NOT.

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Who the fuck plays beer pong. Honestly.

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And why is he bringing it up every post as if it's some benchmark of beer quality. I play flip cup with empty cups sometimes.

This board needs more "why the fuck are you still playing beer pong after college" posts.

Why wouldn't you?

Let me put it this way: when you decide that you're too old for something you have officially become a faggot.

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Who the fuck plays beer pong. Honestly.

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queers and assholes

It really has nothing to do with age and everything to do with not being in a situation where I feel the need to combine drinking with bouncing ping pong balls on a table.

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I know Ramon was saying he wants to go down

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I can believe this

I like to play games. This includes while I'm drinking. Do I play games the majority of the time that I drink? No. Is it still fun? Of course!