Well, guess I won't be buying any more Burnout games...
eBay. Amazon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
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Well, guess I won't be buying any more Burnout games...
eBay. Amazon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I think the book/movie/car analogies kind of miss the point. None of those industries work like the gaming industries, and none of them sell identical used and new products (no, used cars are not the same as new cars). There is, however, one industry that works almost exactly like the gaming industry.
Textbooks.
Both put used and new copies right next to each other, both price the used copies significantly less than the new copies, and both result in identical experiences whether you buy new or used. A cynical person might even equate certain kinds of hard sciences textbooks to sports games, where the only thing that changes from edition to edition is the included questions. And just like games, textbook printers now include one-time-use codes that tie a new textbook to an online portion, requiring people to buy new copies to get the full use out of them.
However, people don't really appreciate that. At first the textbook manufacturers put required material up online, like answer keys to included questions and additional reading that was necessary, but have stepped away from that in recent times. Nobody liked the idea of being forced to buy new books, and so textbook manufacturers have since backed down and instead started including useful additional materials online - stuff that is useful but not absolutely necessary. I think EA will eventually follow the same path. Multiplayer is a pretty essential component of games in this day and age, but I could definitely see them instead switching towards including free roster updates and similar sorts of enhancements - stuff that, again, is a nice bonus but is not required to enjoy the game.
I wasn't aware of those changes. When I was in college (mid 90s), they would change the order of the materials to try to force you to purchase new books. So 99% would be identical, but what used to be pages 24-35 are now pages 172-183. Some professors would give various page counts for the assignments, knowing that we were buying used books.
Why isn't a used DVD or a used CD the same as a new one? Seems the same to me. In New England, we go to Newbury Comics for used movies and CDs.
Two reasons. First, the price difference isn't typically as great as it is with games, since new CDs and DVDs are rarely more than $20. Second, retailers typically do not put used and new CDs and DVDs next to each other. Hell, it's rare to see a retailer that actually deals in both rather than either all new or all used.
They've actually already done this. I believe it was the most recent NBA Live game, but whatever game it was, it came with a code to get the "free" DNA roster update thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
It does sound pretty lame that if you pick up the game used, you have to pay an additional $10 to be able to play online. At the same time though to counter this, Gamestop is more than likely going to charge less for it use than it would have otherwise, so expect to see Madden 11 uses a week after launch for $44.99 rather than $54.99. Of course, this means you are going to get even less for trading it in. Does seem like some people are overreacting though and people just like to hate on whatever is cool to hate on at the moment. There have been plenty of times where everyone has been in unison about how Gamestop sucks and is hurting the developers, but then something like this happens and it is the developers we hate and Gamestop has nothing to do with it.
It's a joke to piss you off and it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Well plenty of Blockbusters, Suncoasts, FYE, and others sell used movies and music that aren't rentals. Ohh and don't forget Coconuts they do as well, I remember they started doing used movies and music back in the days with VHS and cassette. As Josh mentioned there's also Ebay, which sells new and used, same with Amazon. Also as has already been mentioned in this thread a lot of the people who trade their games in at Gamestop do so to buy new ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Also GM, Ford, and who ever else does not profit twice from a used car sale. The dealer does profit from it, but quite a few dealerships are independently owned and aren't that much different than a gamestop. I don't have hard numbers on it, but not all Dealerships are owned by the company whose cars they sell.
You people keep going on about how this is good that the industry is sticking it to the man (gamestop) but they're not. As has been pointed out many times in this thread, the only person they're sticking it to is you, the consumer. Do you honestly think this is going to make any difference whatsoever in gamestop's sales or profit margins? All that's going to happen is they might start selling used games for less, which means they'll be giving less in trade in to the consumers. The resale value of the games you buy is being hurt, not gamestop. EA is taking a shit in your mouth and you're calling it caviar.
And the whole "resale is killing the industry" line is complete bullshit. As mentioned before, used game sales and stores have been around since the NES days and the industry has only grown since then. In fact, used game sales HELP the industry. A lot of kids can't afford to buy new games, so buying used games is how they get into playing games, and selling their used games is how they get more games. Then they get older and maybe they are able to afford to buy new games. That's how the industry grows. Actions like this are actually damaging to this industry as a whole.
I just wish they'd disable online in about 90% of the new games.
EA charges $60 for roster updates. $10 for multiplayer is getting off light.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
I wonder if prices will ever climb back to 1994 SNES levels where we used to pay $70 per game (about $103 adjusted for inflation).Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll