Bioshock Infinite

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Originally Posted by bbobb

Why is the fact the game is linear a bad thing? How many non linear games actually end up being good games? 1 or 2? I mean seriously. A game being open world is 99% confirmation it's going to be shit.

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I don't think the ratio of bad to good is any different between the two, taking into account that there are 100x more linear games.

The linearity only disappoints me because Levine also led System Shock 2, and those kinds of games are a lot harder to come by than another action FPS.

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Originally Posted by bbobb

Nope. What booker calls is randomized. The coin flip always comes up heads. It's a constant

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Yeah. That's what I meant. Something got lost between brain and keyboard.

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Originally Posted by epmode

The linearity only disappoints me because Levine also led System Shock 2, and those kinds of games are a lot harder to come by than another action FPS.

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I knew it was going to be more like Bioshock because that one made money.

Did people really think this game was going to be more than an iteration on Bioshock?

Levine made a few comments about how Bioshock was a gateway to more complex FPS design and implied that his next game would go in that direction. But that was shortly after Bioshock's release and I didn't read anything about Infinite once it was revealed.

I'm sure he had grand plans for this game, but instead spent six years figuring out how to Elizabeth work as a companion, which they ended up doing - so that's nice and kind of impressive I guess even though HL2 did the same thing a decade ago and if youmotherfuckerssayonebadthingaboutHL2againI'llfuckingmurdereverysinglelastoneofyouho wthefuckcanyounotlikethatfuckinggame

Do you believe everything that game designers say about their new games?

Have you played video games before?

Nothing matters until you see someone playing the game in real time.

We had this discussion a week ago. I forgot who was going completely apeshit over--oh, it was James. Never mind.

Not Almaci. I think I know why he's upset though.

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Originally Posted by dave is ok

It's linear shit that doesn't pretend to be anything but linear shit and tongue in cheek tells you "I'm linear shit". I don't get whats offensive about that.

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^Pretty much this, as opposed to all the BioWare, Bethesda, Molyneux etc games that are just as linear shit while vocally pretending not to be.

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Originally Posted by epmode

I guess. But if anyone has a shot, it'll be the guy who made it in the first place.

I remember reading an interview where Ken Levine talked about how Bioshock was an important stepping stone in getting mainstream types used to the System Shock/Deus Ex style of game. He hinted that they would be looking into incorporating more of those early design decisions into later games. Real inventory management, genuinely divergent gameplay styles, more non-linearity, etc.

I hope he wasn't talking out of his ass.

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LOL