Bioshock Infinite

Project Icarus is to be unveiled at 1:45pm EDT tomorrow. Any prognostications?

I predict I'm going to be at work with far too many gaming sites blocked off, including TNL. :(

James

Today is the anniversary of SShock2's release but I doubt it will be a sequel to that. I'm hoping for something completely new.

Moderators, please rename this thread to Bioshock Infinite.

Here is the synopsis posted on the official site:

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BioShock Infinite is a first-person shooter currently in development at Irrational Games, the studio behind the original BioShock (which sold over 4 million units worldwide). Set in 1912, BioShock Infinite introduces an entirely new narrative and gameplay experience that lifts players out of the familiar confines of Rapture and rockets them to Columbia, an immense city in the sky.
Former Pinkerton agent Booker DeWitt has been sent to rescue Elizabeth, a young woman imprisoned in Columbia since childhood. Booker develops a relationship with Elizabeth, augmenting his abilities with hers so the pair may escape from a city that is literally falling from the sky. DeWitt must learn to fight foes in high-speed Sky-Line battles, engage in combat both indoors and amongst the clouds, and harness the power of dozens of new weapons and abilities.

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I was hoping for something more different, but it's hard to argue with their track record. I can see why it was called Icarus.

can't you "edit post", "go advanced", and change it your self?

Their Track record has suddenly become fairly diluted though :/

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Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name

can't you "edit post", "go advanced", and change it your self?

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I'll be damned. So the "upgrade" did make something better.

Sigh.

Hoping for: A better game than System Shock 2
Expecting: Anything but

Those are HIGH hopes. You're basically asking for Deus Ex or Half-Life. And even those are debatable.

I guess. But if anyone has a shot, it'll be the guy who made it in the first place.

I remember reading an interview where Ken Levine talked about how Bioshock was an important stepping stone in getting mainstream types used to the System Shock/Deus Ex style of game. He hinted that they would be looking into incorporating more of those early design decisions into later games. Real inventory management, genuinely divergent gameplay styles, more non-linearity, etc.

I hope he wasn't talking out of his ass.

Agreed. And don't get me wrong. Nothing in the world would keep me from buying this.

Got the out of sync, low-rez bullshit the fuck outta here.

Get the fuck outta here with that out of sync, low-rez bullshit.

watch it here.

I love the idea. Can't wait to get home and see this shit.

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I'll be damned. So the "upgrade" did make something better.

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The ability to rename threads was available before the upgrade, but it wasn't apparent unless someone told you how to do it.

Regarding Infinite, my first impression was, "Great, another Bioshock sequel," but since Irrational is working on this, I won't dismiss it any longer. I'm curious to see how this pans out.

It is a prequel. :D

Can anyone post the trailer? I can't seem to find it.

http://mjr.mn/943nSC

Gameplay sound Bioshock-ish. So Error can worry some more.

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The Event
This wasn't a normal video game press event. First, and perhaps most obviously, the security was thick. While an allegedly corrupt politician celebrated his birthday upstairs – an endless procession of well-dressed upper crusters made their way into the historic Plaza Hotel while protesters held court outside – another high-profile event was being held on the second floor. And while there was no police presence like outside, the black-pants, black v-neck crew that Irrational Games brought with them had things on lockdown. "Does that computer have a camera on it?" one of them asked me. "You'll need to check it." I went back into the hallway and got back in line. The same line I already stood in to check my cellphone. Security was thick.

But that's been the Boston-area developer's modus operandi since work began on its new title nearly three years ago. It's exceedingly rare in our industry to have a high-profile developer like Irrational keep something so completely under wraps for so long. And now, a room full of gaming press were assembled to see what Ken Levine and Co. have been working on. With an embargo less than 24 hours away and the promise that no outlet would be getting an early exclusive, Irrational wasn't about to let up on security now. After an introduction by a PR representative, again pleading with us to keep things quiet until today, Irrational Games' founder Ken Levine took the stage. "It's a long way to come for a trailer, a demo, and a little conversation," he admitted. "We also appreciate the patience you've had with us. It's been three years and we've said nothing about what we're doing," but it was finally time to see what was beneath the curtain. Cue the trailer.

The City of Columbia
"I can't talk about this game without talking about the city of Columbia," Levine begins. Much like System Shock 2's Von Braun ship or BioShock's underwater city of Rapture, BioShock Infinite's Columbia, a fantastical city-in-the-sky, is front and center.

"This is like the Apollo project of 1900," he says. Like the 1960's space program, Columbia is a testament to American ingenuity, technology, ideals and, yes, strength. Levine points out that the America of the 1880s was an agrarian society, still reeling from the devastating effects of the Civil War. Just 20 years later, with the Industrial Revolution in full swing, the national landscape was fundamentally changed. "You go from people with cows and outhouses and growing wheat in fields, to having radios and cars and movie stars, and all these incredible things," Levine later told Joystiq. "It's almost as if they felt a city was suddenly floating in the sky. That's how much the world had changed." And so they build a city floating in the sky, a literal metaphor for the country's rapid ascent on the world stage. But it's not as well-intentioned as it may seem. "Columbia is a Death Star."

The Black Ships
In 1854, American Commodore Matthew Perry brought four gunships into the waters just off Japan. The presentation of American naval might and technological superiority was instrumental in opening Japan up to American trade. I bring up that example from history because the story of Columbia, and the context that Levine places it in, is very much about gunboat diplomacy.

"This isn't a game about history. This is a game set in the context of history," Levine said. Though turn-of-the-century America was transformed into a manufacturing powerhouse, there was one thing it couldn't manufacture more of. "We needed markets," he said. And like Perry's Black Ships, Columbia can be seen as both a vehicle for trade but also a means of gunboat diplomacy. Trade ... or else. To give us an example of that "context of history," Levine read the following passage from President William McKinley discussing the annexation of the Phillippines:
I walked the floor of the White House night after night until midnight; and I am not ashamed to tell you, gentlemen, that I went down on my knees and prayed Almighty God for light and guidance more than one night. And one night late it came to me this way-I don't know how it was, but it came: (1) That we could not give them back to Spain-that would be cowardly and dishonorable; (2) that we could not turn them over to France and Germany-our commercial rivals in the Orient-that would be bad business and discreditable; (3) that we could not leave them to themselves-they were unfit for self-government-and they would soon have anarchy and misrule over there worse than Spain's was; and (4) that there was nothing left for us to do but to take them all, and to educate the Filipinos, and uplift and civilize and Christianize them, and by God's grace do the very best we could by them, as our fellow-men for whom Christ also died. And then I went to bed, and went to sleep.

Fin de siècle first-person shooter
While context and setting have everything to do with BioShock Infinite's elaborate setting, and like Levine we couldn't talk about the game without first giving Columbia its due, there was more to last night's presentation than context. Actually, there's a lot more. "The notion of American exceptionalism [in the game], that didn't even exist until six or eight months ago," Levine told us after the demonstration. Like BioShock before it, the philosophical underpinnings of Infinite haven't been static over the last three years. But what has: It's a first-person shooter, very much in the vein of other "shock" titles.

In BioShock Infinite, "you're not an unknown cipher. You're Booker DeWitt, a disgraced Pinkerton agent" and your office, if you can call it that, is in a room above a bar. You're a fixer given a job: Find a woman named Elizabeth. Here's the catch: Finding Elizabeth isn't the problem, she's in Columbia ... but "nobody knows where Columbia is," Levine says. It went missing a decade ago. When our gameplay demo starts, the hero is on a cobblestone street. A poster with George Washington reads "It is our holy duty to guard against the foreign hordes." A horse-drawn carriage comes down the street, the wheel missing on one side, its axle sparking against the stone. A stream of (presumably foul) water runs along the edge of the street. As DeWitt passes the cart, you can see it's plastered in pamphlets. The message: This is a place of great political and ideological rhetoric.

As you enter into an open square of sorts, you can see things are a little ... off. A woman sweeps her stoop while the house behind her burns. An enormous statue looms over you, holding an American flag. There's a dead horse on the ground. While things look pretty bleak, Levine tells us "this is not a city that's as devolved as Rapture." It's not all Splicers everywhere, itching to attack anything without a bunny mask on.

As DeWitt turns towards a pavilion, you see the vista of other floating buildings. This is Columbia. There's a man on the ground feeding crows. There are sounds of prosetlyzation coming from loudspeakers, and you read four signs: They'll take your gun; They'll take your wife; They'll take your business; They'll take your life. Mixed in are signs for one Mr. Saltonstall, a political candidate, and ostensibly the same man in the pavilion. As you approach, there's a barrel full of guns with a sign above it reading "Patriots, arm thyself!" Well, don't mind if we do ... this scoped sniper rifle oughta do nicely.

As you take the gun, which now satisfies the familiar first-person framework in the lower right corner, Saltonstall turns to you, his eyes glowing. He commands Charles – evidently the man with the birds – to attack. Charles, and his feathered friends, are only too happy to oblige. A swarm of crows flies towards the screen. While Saltonstall hooks onto a winding track connecting various floating sections of Columbia, zipping away, DeWitt takes down Charles, sending him over the edge. Looking over, he's dead on a platform below. Using some telekinetic powers, DeWitt pulls a bottle shaped like a crow towards him and he does what any good video game character would do with a strange bottle found on a dead man on a floating city that's gone missing: he drinks it. Unsurprisingly, that leads to a vision of a bloody crow.

"FIRE!"
You hear the charge in the distance and, as the buildings move and float all around you, you can just make out a cannon before seeing the arc of fire coming from it. Using the scope on the sniper rifle, you can see Saltonstall directing men to fire upon you. Another massive fireball heads in your direction. Using the same hook device that Saltonstall did, DeWitt engages the zipline and makes his way across the open sky to the other section of the city. An enemy climbs on and heads in your direction and you've got a joust, happening far above the ground, traveling at 60mph. A well placed hit from a wrench and the enemy goes flying.

Upon landing, DeWitt evades some cannon fire and enters a bar to take cover. The patrons turn to look and, for a second, things seem to be quiet. A painting on the wall appears to shimmer and then you're hit. A splatter of blood strikes the edge of the screen. Turning around, one of the bartenders is holding a shotgun. DeWitt grabs it using that handy telekinesis, turns it around in midair, and remotely pulls the trigger. Then he uses his "murder of crows" ability – thanks mysterious bottle – to enable his escape. Exiting the bar, the cannon turns, fires a shot, only to have the shell plucked out of the air – shotgun-style – turned against it. Fleeing on foot, DeWitt uses an electricity attack to take care of a large group of attackers – Levine tells us later you "can fight fifteen enemies at once" as opposed to BioShock's "one or two guys in a corridor."

Luckily, Elizabeth makes her appearance here ... did we mention she's "incredibly powerful" before? Well, she is and she uses one of those powers now to make a raincloud. Do you see where this is going. DeWitt uses his lightning attack and – zap! – the lot of them are electrocuted. You take cover behind a pile of scrap metal while another group attacks. Elizabeth uses her power to assemble a giant metal ball of scrap before commanding DeWitt to grab it. One telekinetic throw later and another batch of baddies have been dispatched. But now, whatever that thing with the giant hands and the floating heart that we saw in the trailer is – which Levine told us wasn't what we thought it was – is back. You can see it has a face – complete with old-timey hair parted right down the middle. It lands, conveniently, on a bridge which Elizabeth immediately gets to work on dismantling. Again, working together DeWitt telekinetically fires an explosive at the structural component she's been working on and the giant monster falls. DeWitt asks, "That's the one that was chasing you, right?" "No, that wasn't him. That wasn't him," she answers just as a massive bird lands on (and summarily trashes) a building behind them. "That's him!"

The Stage Show
At this point, the demo is over, Ken thanks us for coming, and a series of releases are triggered dropping the black curtain lining the room we're in. The large arches on the surrounding walls have been filled with images of the floating city, the screen in front of us is filled with more political paraphernalia and, thanks to an awkward failure to launch, the rear curtain remained in place. Behind it were old-timey hot dogs (Ken later tells us he's low-rent when it comes to food) and carnival midway games, with stuffed animal prizes. We leave to prepare for our interview and wrap our heads around everything we just saw. After all, it's not every day you find the ideas of Imperialism, American exceptionalism, and lengthy quotes from 19th century Presidents in your video game press events. We gather our confiscated electronics, and are whisked through the Plaza Hotel – a luxurious monument to American exceptionalism, built in 1907 right against New York City's Central Park. It's not floating in the sky but – especially with the air of political corruption and mystery, thanks to the party and the protesters – it's a suitable stand-in for Columbia,

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I'll be damned. So the "upgrade" did make something better.

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that functionality was always there tbh

I clearly missed the boat, as I thought it had disappeared for a bit. False alarm. Nothing got better. :p

Day M-F'n One.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/...ational_081210

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SS: In BioShock, the player enters a devastated environment and picks through corpses in order to find out what happened. But Columbia appears to be a very “alive” city…

KL: This is very important to us, Sid. Going back to the System Shock 2 and BioShock days, we’ve given ourselves an out, which is “everybody’s dead.” There wasn’t much character interaction, and when there is… I think I’m the guy who invented the [gameplay convention of the] player interacting with a guy on the other side of a glass. [laughs] I say that with dubious pride, because that idea is getting really long in the tooth.

Our concept in this game is that there are lots of characters who don’t necessarily attack you right away — they may not be interested in getting in a fight, either. The feeling we want is somewhat like the Wild West, where you go into a room and everybody has their hand on their gun because it’s a scary place. Part of your challenge in this world is figuring out who is a threat and who isn’t. Or, if you’re in a combat situation, if there’s a way to bring another person to your side somehow. We sort of pioneered this with BioShock with the notion of the Big Daddy, who didn’t attack you right away, and here we’ve extended this idea throughout the world. We realized quickly that this is much more like the way the real world works. In shooters, we’re not accustomed to that — we’re used to everyone seeing you and shooting you. From a narrative perspective, this gives us a ton of freedom.

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I'm really liking sound of this.

This is some really exciting news. Bummer that it's not coming out until 2012.

I'm disappointed it's another Bioshock but at least this looks more original than part 2.

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I remember reading an interview where Ken Levine talked about how Bioshock was an important stepping stone in getting mainstream types used to the System Shock/Deus Ex style of game. He hinted that they would be looking into incorporating more of those early design decisions into later games. Real inventory management, genuinely divergent gameplay styles, more non-linearity, etc.

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I must have missed this interview. Was it recent? It seems like every Bioshock-related interview forgets or doesn't care to ask if we're going to see design head back towards SS2-type depth.

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I must have missed this interview. Was it recent? It seems like every Bioshock-related interview forgets or doesn't care to ask if we're going to see design head back towards SS2-type depth.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bu...hock-interview

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I think that we wanted to expand the audience for a first-person shooter, while retaining that hardcore audience. And I think, honestly, really, deep-down, we wanted to popularise this kind of gameplay that we've been attached to for so long. If the first iteration of it was a tiny bit simpler than System Shock 2... How many of these type of games do you think are going to be made now, compared to how many of them were going to be made before? It took us, how many years to get this game green-lit?

Now, future games - competitors' games, our games - we can build upon millions of people's knowledge base. How many people had played these kind of games before? 300,000 or 400,000 maybe? Now it's millions of people, because of this game. It's like with RTS games, if you go back and play Dune 2 - and now look at them! They have build queues, all this complexity - there's Company of Heroes with cover and stuff like that. It's because a system was popularised, and people were willing to invest in it with confidence that there would be an audience.

Before, as great as System Shock 2 and Deus Ex were, nobody bought 'em. We want to crack that - and I think that now, the sky's the limit for how deep these games can go.

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I remembered him getting a little more specific than he does here but it's still nice to hear.

Saw the trailer, liked what I saw!

Looks fantastic.

Really looking forward to this.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

It seems like every Bioshock-related interview forgets or doesn't care to ask if we're going to see design head back towards SS2-type depth.

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I think SS2 is overrated so I would never ask this.

I never really got the SS2 devotion either. I liked its inventory better but otherwise BioShock killed it in every imaginable way.

Really wish the game industry wasn't such a shameless whore. Blockbuster movies will frequently have sequels. Blockbuster games are GUARANTEED sequels and then some. BioShock should have been a one off.

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I think SS2 is overrated so I would never ask this.

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I do remember you calling it "just another game trying to scare you" or something like that which surprised me since it totally seemed like a game you would be into and the comment made me wonder how much time you gave it. The horror aspect is unimportant compared to other parts of it, particularly the choices it forces you to make for character development.

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I never really got the SS2 devotion either.

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As much as I love it, it bugs the hell out of me that it gets 50 times the attention of the first game. Come on people, if you like this type of game, install DOSBox and play the 1994 original. It's really only outdated in graphics. The controls are odd but don't take that long to get used to.

just give me the game tomorrow

Deus Ex > SS2 by far but that's like saying, "Would you rather have a billion dollars or a trillion dollars"

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I do remember you calling it "just another game trying to scare you" or something like that which surprised me since it totally seemed like a game you would be into and the comment made me wonder how much time you gave it. The horror aspect is unimportant compared to other parts of it, particularly the choices it forces you to make for character development.

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Yea that sounds like something I'd say. I dunno, I gave it two honest gos, didn't care for it either time, and moved on. Don't get me wrong - the world would be better off with more SS2-like games and less COD4-like games, but in the end it's just a game, System Shock 2 did not die for our sins. Bioshock was a damn good game and if I was Mr. Levine I'd be really proud of it!

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... install DOSBox... outdated in graphics... controls are odd...

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You're asking for way too much.

The idea of an FPS world with people that don't always attack you sounds amazing. Bioshock 2 had somewhat of a problem with a low number of enemy models respawning over and over mucking up some areas, this sounds to not only fix that problem but push it in a really awesome direction.

Also the trailer looks amazing.

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if you like this type of game, install DOSBox and play the 1994 original. It's really only outdated in graphics. The controls are odd but don't take that long to get used to.

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I'd play it if EA pulled its head out of its ass and started reselling its back catalog. I hear that there's even a mod that overhauls the controls to a more modern WASD format.

As soon as they announced Bioshock 2, it kinda stopped mattering what they did to the series. Bioshock 2 wound up being pretty good, even if it was totally unneeded from the narrative side of things. This should be a cool single playthrough.

In b4 skyshock

SS2 IS CLUNKY AND BORING AND NOT AS GOOD AS YOU REMEMBER

I SAID IT

The reveal moment was pretty great at the time, though.

but i just played it like last year

I tried to play it last year and couldn't even get to the part I remember being the best part because it was borrrrring. And clunky.

I might try again.

The combat is slow but it's no worse than Deus Ex, and I've replayed that 123523 times.

psychic monkeys all up in your business. your lady business

fuck you mzo. best game ever.

So it's set decades earlier, in a completely different location, with no Adam, splicers, Big Daddies or Little Sisters? I get the feeling this isn't actually a Bioshock game in any meaningful sense, and it's just in the title because some suit said it had to be.

Game looks amazing, don't get me wrong, I just wish they would have trusted Ken Levine's name, or failing that, "_______shock" to be enough of a selling point.

Well I think it does have a lot of meaningful connections to Bioshock, but they're broader; themes, design philisophies, and gameplay style. Probably more like the way J-RPGs think of sequels.

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So it's set decades earlier, in a completely different location, with no Adam, splicers, Big Daddies or Little Sisters? I get the feeling this isn't actually a Bioshock game in any meaningful sense, and it's just in the title because some suit said it had to be.

Game looks amazing, don't get me wrong, I just wish they would have trusted Ken Levine's name, or failing that, "_______shock" to be enough of a selling point.

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Bioshock doesn't imply underwater though. It's not like they are trying to call it System Shock with no computers or something else completely outlandish. I'd do the same thing if I were them. The general public is too stupid to connect the dots if you don't beat them over the head with it.

It looks like it's set in the same world with the same rules. I'd wager weapons and plasmids will be similar.

Takes place around the same time too.

It takes place 48 years earlier. I mean they're in the same century, but I don't think I'd say it's "around the same time."

I was thinking bioshock was in 1920 for some reason.

The chick in the video levitates you and the guy that attacks her almost looks like a more advanced big daddy type creature.

I'd be less than surprised if this game explains where Rapture got the idea for all that shit.

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just give me the game tomorrow

Deus Ex > SS2 by far but that's like saying, "Would you rather have a billion dollars or a trillion dollars"

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A trillion. Then I'd be a top 10 economy all by myself.

Way to read post #17, failure.

Fuck :lol:

Anyone see the gameplay vid on Live Marketplace?

If not here's the youtube version.

The bushes around the old guy with the birds are incredible.

I want to play this more than any other game I can remember.

I am skeptical of that being actual gameplay.

But it looks neat!

I should probably finish Bioshock at some point. Maybe I'll start a new game on normal in hopes that it doesn't glitch and cheat its way into me not caring this time.

I can't believe that was ten minutes long. It felt more like 60 seconds, since I had my mouth agape the whole time.

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I am skeptical of that being actual gameplay.

But it looks neat!

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I thought that too, but it doesn't come out for two years, that could very well be what the game looks like.

Also keep in mind, it's a completely new engine, not one piece of code copied over from the engine which made Bioshock, that whole baby is from scratch, and the entire world is supposed to be running on the same physics; meaning those islands are actually floating in real time.

That video was heavy. I will now avoid all further media. Count me in as excited.

Scripted much? Why not just make a FPS CGI movie? Setting is neat though.

I skimmed through the first 30 seconds and decided I'm already on a media blackout.

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I thought that too, but it doesn't come out for two years, that could very well be what the game looks like.

Also keep in mind, it's a completely new engine, not one piece of code copied over from the engine which made Bioshock, that whole baby is from scratch, and the entire world is supposed to be running on the same physics; meaning those islands are actually floating in real time.

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I didn't mean that the graphics were too good, I meant the whole thing felt like a fat, scripted movie. There's no way actual gameplay has you moving around like that doing that shit, with your main dude never shutting up.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I could see it flowing like that if they added in visual prompts and a UI though.

They did say they wanted him to be vocal so I have some faith that part is actually accurate.

I doubt the game will be that scripted most of the time. At least I hope not, and I hope Levine still believes in emergent design.

I detect a much more satirical tone with this than with Bioshock. Bioshock was political/philosophical, but never really ventured into satire. Not that there's anything wrong with that, though I could see it undermining the horror aspect somewhat.

Pretty hyped, either way.

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I could see it undermining the horror aspect somewhat.

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I haven't read anything where they said they wanted a horror aspect in this.

Description of a live demo, sounds pretty cool.

This sounds especially neat,

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And so she attempts to use her ability to manipulate "Tears" (as in "tears in the fabric of time/space") in order to heal the horse. It seems that the horse is actually on said Tear, and maybe opening or closing this Tear will help -- unfortunately, this completely backfires. And for a few seconds, the two get teleported from the bright 1912 Columbian day to a dark alternate-1983 night (with , I guess, a two-years-early version of Tears for Fears' "Everybody Wants To Rule The World" playing in the background). It takes a near collision with a 1980s truck for Elizabeth to use her power to bring the pair back into Columbia.

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This game has so much style and looks so fucking fun.

I hope there's a "choke her" button.

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I hope there's a "choke her" button.

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http://img1.tvloop.com/img/showpics/...00_2_25618.jpg

looks better without the ui lol

Also blood splatters > the new red arrows.

I can't wait for this game. Previews have said it's awesome so far.

Fuck, that video screams heart and care.

This game is going to be incredible.

SS2 was pretty amazing when it came out, but going back to it feels clunky.

This fucking game.

This from the youtube comments says it all.

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JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

BlackLionFilms 19 hours ago

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Does this have any kind of release date?

Q1 2012

Thursday's GTTV is devoted to this. They're going to show the 15 minute demo footage from E3.

GTTV Episode.

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This fucking game.

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Here's a link that has the footage without all the GTTV nonsense.

Can somebody help me find my jaw? I dropped it on the floor somewhere around the two minute mark.

Am I the only one that played through the first two games and ignored the story? I loved the game play but the story never made a connection with me enough to care about it.

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Can somebody help me find my jaw? I dropped it on the floor somewhere around the two minute mark.

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At 4:30 shit gets insane.

I can't overstate how much this game looks incredible to me, I haven't played it and it already looks perfect and better than any other game I've ever played. I haven't been this excited for a game in forever and I WISH anything else looked as original and created with love.

Sounds a whole lot to me like I shouldn't watch that video or any others. Don't want to spoil the goods.

I wish I hadn't seen what I saw at 4:30 and I stopped right after it, because it was too cool and I wish I could have seen it for the first time while playing.

I loved me some Bioshock and Bioshock 2, but this game is already putting them to shame with just what you watch in trailers.

That was so fucking out of control.

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Sounds a whole lot to me like I shouldn't watch that video or any others. Don't want to spoil the goods.

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This.

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Am I the only one that played through the first two games and ignored the story?

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I think so. I loved the story so much I got psyched every time I found a audio diary. The website they have details everything down to the smallest side characters. The story of Rapture is brilliant.

I watched the GTTV show and I totally regret it. I'm going on complete media blackout mode now, this game already has my money.

I hated Bioshock, but this looks like the fucking Truth.

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I watched the GTTV show and I totally regret it. I'm going on complete media blackout mode now, this game already has my money.

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Pretty much this, there's no reason for me to see even another pixel of advertisement or read a single other word.

There's a special Move peripheral in the works for this. It better be one of the those roller coaster tracks for my gameroom.

1999 Mode sounds promising!

There really aren't many specifics in that message but at least their heart is in the right place.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

1999 Mode sounds promising!

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My interest in this game shot up 200% when I heard about this.

I saw this in Kotaku:

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In 1999 mode players will pick their specialization at the beginning of the game. From there on they'll be committed to a certain set of skills and powers. Decisions are permanent. Skills chosen are permanent. Even death is permanent, If you don't have the resources necessary to be brought back to life, it's game over for you, and with more demanding weapon, health, and power management, players can expect to see that screen on a fairly regular basis. Just like the good old days.

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This was the biggest single problem I had with Bioshock: too many choices, not enough consequences.

That sort of thing should be built into the main game, not relegated to a difficulty selection. But at least the game will at least be designed to account for a limited skill set. I only wish the new Deus Ex had a similar option.